For those of you who grade - min grade 9.5, why??

[JVC]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

 

[darocker80]

My only reasoning was i knew my sub grades alrleady and just wanted a gem, if not, it saves me from cracking a case?

But now you talked me into a min 9

 

[mredsox89]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

 

[JVC]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

I was a bulk submitter myself up until a few months ago (just couldn't keep up with the number of cards I had to submit). In that case, you don't have a choice. MG 9.5 is required for bulk submissions. I'm trying to see why other people would want to put a 9.5 min on their cards.

 

[EricInCT]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

 

[mredsox89]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

I was a bulk submitter myself up until a few months ago (just couldn't keep up with the number of cards I had to submit). In that case, you don't have a choice. MG 9.5 is required for bulk submissions. I'm trying to see why other people would want to put a 9.5 min on their cards.

I know people that were able to give a MG 9 on a bulk submission but that point is mute. There is no legit reason to MG if you still pay full price. Worst case, it gets a garbage grade and you crack it. Best case, it gets slabbed and you learn what was wrong. In my case 2 of the cards in my sub were graded 9's but had an 8 for the surface because of a finger print and they will both be cracked, wiped down again and resubmitted, most likely for 9.5's.

 

[darocker80]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

that psa really stands out haha

 

[EricInCT]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

I was a bulk submitter myself up until a few months ago (just couldn't keep up with the number of cards I had to submit). In that case, you don't have a choice. MG 9.5 is required for bulk submissions. I'm trying to see why other people would want to put a 9.5 min on their cards.

I know people that were able to give a MG 9 on a bulk submission but that point is mute. There is no legit reason to MG if you still pay full price. Worst case, it gets a garbage grade and you crack it. Best case, it gets slabbed and you learn what was wrong. In my case 2 of the cards in my sub were graded 9's but had an 8 for the surface because of a finger print and they will both be cracked, wiped down again and resubmitted, most likely for 9.5's.

I sent BGS an email regarding the surface.....they told me they will wipe down every card submitted front and back but will not 'scrub' the surface for any particles......I don't know if the fingerprint alone held you back from a 9.5 is what I a alluding to.

 

[EricInCT]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

that psa really stands out haha

I will have to replace it with a gold ref when I get it back from JVC's submission....or maybe some more xfractors or even a couple refractors....I like the symetry though of the way it is now.

 

[darocker80]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

that psa really stands out haha

I will have to replace it with a gold ref when I get it back from JVC's submission....or maybe some more xfractors or even a couple refractors....I like the symetry though of the way it is now.

not gonna lie its pretty sick, maybe send to bgs for a 9.5

 

[mredsox89]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

I was a bulk submitter myself up until a few months ago (just couldn't keep up with the number of cards I had to submit). In that case, you don't have a choice. MG 9.5 is required for bulk submissions. I'm trying to see why other people would want to put a 9.5 min on their cards.

I know people that were able to give a MG 9 on a bulk submission but that point is mute. There is no legit reason to MG if you still pay full price. Worst case, it gets a garbage grade and you crack it. Best case, it gets slabbed and you learn what was wrong. In my case 2 of the cards in my sub were graded 9's but had an 8 for the surface because of a finger print and they will both be cracked, wiped down again and resubmitted, most likely for 9.5's.

I sent BGS an email regarding the surface.....they told me they will wipe down every card submitted front and back but will not 'scrub' the surface for any particles......I don't know if the fingerprint alone held you back from a 9.5 is what I a alluding to.

Im nearly positive it is because i know that i forgot to wipe down the surfaces and both got 8's and there are no scratches or indents or anything and I can see the fingerprint. They were thrown into the submission to meet the minimum number of cards on a 20 card deal a few months back so i never had a chance to really look at them. Both got 2 9.5's, a 10, and an 8 on surface for what its worth.

 

[Wes]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

How many do you need to submit to get that deal?

 

[EricInCT]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

that psa really stands out haha

I will have to replace it with a gold ref when I get it back from JVC's submission....or maybe some more xfractors or even a couple refractors....I like the symetry though of the way it is now.

not gonna lie its pretty sick, maybe send to bgs for a 9.5

That's the only Hanson BGS 10 other than 2 base chrome that are out there....the blue in the center.....I didn't get it graded I bought it that way....it was a steal. I will give your idea some thought when FCB sends in their order next month :mrgreen:

 

[mredsox89]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

How many do you need to submit to get that deal?

You have to submit tons of cards yearly to get that deal. Idk how many cards it is but its some absurd amount, multiple thousands per year. Its not something you can just get once.

 

[darocker80]

True story: Sent in 50 base Tommy Hanson chromes.....no minimum........30 were BGS 9.5 and 20 were BGS 9.0. I was about to crack the 9.0s open but put them on the bay to see if anyone was interested.....I still have most of them but I sold a bunch for $16 each of the 9.0 dlvd......if I put a min 9.5 on them I would have only sold them for $5 (whatever the base chromes are selling for) and left the extra $200+ on the table....even though I paid for the slabbing. Slabs are so easy to break and I have never damaged a card........

another story: still on Tommy Hanson......Orange chrome ref......9.0 with two 9.5s and two 9.0s......decided to crack it open and send it back in and bam....9.5 in my sig.

that psa really stands out haha

I will have to replace it with a gold ref when I get it back from JVC's submission....or maybe some more xfractors or even a couple refractors....I like the symetry though of the way it is now.

not gonna lie its pretty sick, maybe send to bgs for a 9.5

That's the only Hanson BGS 10 other than 2 base chrome that are out there....the blue in the center.....I didn't get it graded I bought it that way....it was a steal. I will give your idea some thought when FCB sends in their order next month :mrgreen:

Very nice, i'd leave it in the psa 10 cse, so when bgs sees it they'll almost have to give it a bgs 9.5

 

[JVC]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

How many do you need to submit to get that deal?

You have to submit tons of cards yearly to get that deal. Idk how many cards it is but its some absurd amount, multiple thousands per year. Its not something you can just get once.

Bulk grading starts at 250 cards/month.

 

[mredsox89]

As some of you know, I am sending in a big order that several other members are hopping in on. I have received requests from some of the submitters for a min grade of 9.5 on their cards. While I understand that they would rather not have the card slabbed if it's not a 9.5, I pose this question to you: if you just paid $10 (or whatever you happen to pay as your grading fee at the time), why wouldn't you want to see the subgrades if it gets less than a 9.5?

I personally would want to see how close it was to getting that 9.5 and more importantly, what flaws held it back from not getting a gem mint grade. I can then use that knowledge to make better decisions on the next order. At worst, the card grades significantly less than a 9.5 and I just crack it out later. The benefit of getting the subgrades is that if it comes back .5 away from a gem, I'll know that I have a chance to bump it later on.

The majority of people who minimum grade i believe submit in bulk orders, meaning there is a significant discount if the card doesn't meet the MG. Its usually <$1 for cards that dont get slabbed and $9 or so for cards that do.

There is zero purpose to MG if you don't get a discount for them not being slabbed. I wish I had figured this out before my first submission

How many do you need to submit to get that deal?

You have to submit tons of cards yearly to get that deal. Idk how many cards it is but its some absurd amount, multiple thousands per year. Its not something you can just get once.

Bulk grading starts at 250 cards/month.

Figured it was something near 3k per year. Its a ton of cards and not many people are able to take advantage of it. It is great though.