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My local shop redeemed 10 all 10 where one color, I get home and get mine. 1 color also :lol: consider yourself lucky i guess :lol:
 

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cgilmo said:
moxacaine said:
A little birdie told me that his source stated that they would be jumbo patches and that i should be buying them up. Glad i didnt take the advice and luckily mine only lost me $65.


my information was accurate at the time

the current design you see is plan b after getting about half the jerseys they planned on getting
I really don't care either way, other than feeling bad for the people who are getting scrod. But despite what they wanted and what they got, don't you think this is a bit of a screw-job for a 1 per case redemption?

It seems to me like this will leave a sour taste for most.
 

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This is just like wax breaking.

Win little, lose big

Same as sp cuts mystery redemptions, we just don't know what will arrive in the mailbox

For all the misses, there are big hits like ichiro, darvish and whatnot.

I contemplated on whether I should redeem the 10 or not and when the redemptions were selling at almost at its highest, dumped them for 800. The guy who bought the lot from me, he's bought other stuff from me very recently so I will email him on what he got.

If he gets 5 ichiro and 5 darvish, I lost out big time.

In the end, all a gamble...

Sorry bout the card u received mox. Wish it was for a better player.

Dave

Ps. Didn't the player checklist come out already on these? I thought there was less than 20 players. With these being #ed below 65, is this right??
 

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chashawk said:
cgilmo said:
moxacaine said:
A little birdie told me that his source stated that they would be jumbo patches and that i should be buying them up. Glad i didnt take the advice and luckily mine only lost me $65.


my information was accurate at the time

the current design you see is plan b after getting about half the jerseys they planned on getting
I really don't care either way, other than feeling bad for the people who are getting scrod. But despite what they wanted and what they got, don't you think this is a bit of a screw-job for a 1 per case redemption?

It seems to me like this will leave a sour taste for most.

This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.
 

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DaleMurphyCollector said:
I just picked mine up at the post office and I (luckily) got Davarish, BUT it isn't a patch. It's a jersey with a yellow pinstripe. I literally just logged onto FCB to see if any of the scans everyone posted were of patches or jerseys.

I feel like I should call them since the redemption said "Patch".


brouthercard said:
chashawk said:
cgilmo said:
moxacaine said:
A little birdie told me that his source stated that they would be jumbo patches and that i should be buying them up. Glad i didnt take the advice and luckily mine only lost me $65.


my information was accurate at the time

the current design you see is plan b after getting about half the jerseys they planned on getting
I really don't care either way, other than feeling bad for the people who are getting scrod. But despite what they wanted and what they got, don't you think this is a bit of a screw-job for a 1 per case redemption?

It seems to me like this will leave a sour taste for most.

This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.
 

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brouthercard said:
This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.


YOU ARE SO FAR OFF BASE....What Mox posted IS NOT a PATCH. It's a JERSEY. What I received is a JERSEY, not a PATCH. As I alreadu stated, I'm not upset at what I received or the fact that they aren't as nice as the Triple Threads patches....I'm upset that I redeemed a PATCH card and received a JERSEY.
 

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brouthercard said:
chashawk said:
cgilmo said:
moxacaine said:
A little birdie told me that his source stated that they would be jumbo patches and that i should be buying them up. Glad i didnt take the advice and luckily mine only lost me $65.


my information was accurate at the time

the current design you see is plan b after getting about half the jerseys they planned on getting
I really don't care either way, other than feeling bad for the people who are getting scrod. But despite what they wanted and what they got, don't you think this is a bit of a screw-job for a 1 per case redemption?

It seems to me like this will leave a sour taste for most.

This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.


Everyone knew it was a gamble and everyone was hoping for jumbos. Am i disappinted theyre not jumbos? sure. But im pissed because Topps did a second rate job with this. Its not so much Topps screwing us as much as it is them letting us down.
 

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DaleMurphyCollector said:
brouthercard said:
This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.


YOU ARE SO FAR OFF BASE....What Mox posted IS NOT a PATCH. It's a JERSEY. What I received is a JERSEY, not a PATCH. As I alreadu stated, I'm not upset at what I received or the fact that they aren't as nice as the Triple Threads patches....I'm upset that I redeemed a PATCH card and received a JERSEY.


Mine is a patch. i see now that its from the red jersey and its from the number on the back. they were a shiney white with a yellow line around them.
 

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chashawk said:
DaleMurphyCollector said:
I just picked mine up at the post office and I (luckily) got Davarish, BUT it isn't a patch. It's a jersey with a yellow pinstripe. I literally just logged onto FCB to see if any of the scans everyone posted were of patches or jerseys.

I feel like I should call them since the redemption said "Patch".


brouthercard said:
chashawk said:
cgilmo said:
moxacaine said:
A little birdie told me that his source stated that they would be jumbo patches and that i should be buying them up. Glad i didnt take the advice and luckily mine only lost me $65.


my information was accurate at the time

the current design you see is plan b after getting about half the jerseys they planned on getting
I really don't care either way, other than feeling bad for the people who are getting scrod. But despite what they wanted and what they got, don't you think this is a bit of a screw-job for a 1 per case redemption?

It seems to me like this will leave a sour taste for most.

This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.

So I'm assuming he wouldn't be complaining if he got a 2 color xiaotan Zhang Patch card?

If there is a raised stripe on the card, why can't the companies call it a patch? I mean, isn't a patch a piece of cloth. They didn't call it a nameplate patch, they didn't call it a wbc logo patch, they called it a patch card, that is SUBJECT TO CHANGE, and if the card can't be produced, a replacement will be provided at the discretion of the company- It's all in the fine print for ANY BLIND REDEMPTION.

My point is: the card companies can do anything they damn well please with a redemption card. We are the suckers who are putting trust in their false promises, and only we are the ones to blame.

That's why I'll never redeem a redemption card unless i'm willing to lose everything and get nothing in return. It's total BS, but nobody is putting a gun to my head and forcing me to redeem anything.

If you are in it for the money, you sell that darn thing as quick as you pull it.

If you don't get what you are expecting, tough luck, and think twice before you ever buy a redemption or redeem a redemption again.

Didn't people learn anything from the Fleer Bankruptcy?
 

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Nothing you have said changes the fact that people are entitled to their opinions, and have every right to disapprove of something.
 

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DaleMurphyCollector said:
brouthercard said:
This isn't a SCREW JOB by Topps, they promised a wbc patch card, and that's what people are getting.

Do you remember when Upper Deck was doing the exquisite redemption thing? Those were selling for $250 apiece, and people were getting $5 dual autos and $5 triple jersey cards. Then again some people were getting $5000 dual cut autos as well.

Learn your lessons, people, BLIND redemptions will give you joy or heartache, but Topps didn't SCREW anyone. People who knew the risk redeemed, and people who didn't want to take the risk sold.

In this case, the risk turned out to be a bad deal.

This was a gamble redemption, and most people are going to lose.

If you redeem a KNOWN redemption, ie derek jeter auto/25, you will get a derek jeter auto/25.

If you redeem a BLIND redemption, you are truly rolling the dice, no matter what anyone promises you.

BLIND redemptions CAN be successful as well- I didn't hear about anyone complaining about receiving a Topps Evan Longoria autographed red hot rookie card.

So no one can blame topps on this one. If you aren't happy, blame yourself for taking the chance. period.


YOU ARE SO FAR OFF BASE....What Mox posted IS NOT a PATCH. It's a JERSEY. What I received is a JERSEY, not a PATCH. As I alreadu stated, I'm not upset at what I received or the fact that they aren't as nice as the Triple Threads patches....I'm upset that I redeemed a PATCH card and received a JERSEY.

You are aware that there are single color patch cards, right? And that they can be made from the same material as a jersey, right? And that there really isn't any legal precedent to determine what the definition of a "patch" is or a "jersey" or a "jersey swatch", so basically the companies can do anything they want. They can change anything they want, and they can send you whatever card they want.

It sucks. I feel bad for everyone. And if you want to vent your frustration, don't buy Topps again. But you know you will. We all will. Cause we collect cards and we don't mind getting disappointed by the card companies.
 

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chashawk said:
Nothing you have said changes the fact that people are entitled to their opinions, and have every right to disapprove of something.

I agree. I was very disappointed with these patches as well.

I feel bad for people who feel they were "screwed".

But people need to get over it. Think twice before redeeming blind cards in the future. I'm sorry man, that's all I can say.
 

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I was always under the impression that a "Patch Card" was a card with "Patch Piece" in the window. A white thread jersey with some yellow thread sewn in is NOT a Patch.
 

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You are aware that there are single color patch cards, right? And that they can be made from the same material as a jersey, right? And that there really isn't any legal precedent to determine what the definition of a "patch" is or a "jersey" or a "jersey swatch", so basically the companies can do anything they want. They can change anything they want, and they can send you whatever card they want.

It sucks. I feel bad for everyone. And if you want to vent your frustration, don't buy Topps again. But you know you will. We all will. Cause we collect cards and we don't mind getting disappointed by the card companies.

You are aware that I have the ability to see and feel the card sent to me and can confirm that it is in fact a swatch from a jersey.


PS....Already called Topps. A replacement is on it's way. :)
 

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I bought up a bunch because I assumed alot more USA guys would be in it like Jeter, Pedroia, Braun etc. I considered the Japanese guys a second option at $$ makers, I didn't picture the final checklist being so terrible. I got 2 so far and they're both a pitcher from Netherlands named Sulbaran with a tiny corner of orange "patch" on a black jersey, 5 more on the way.
 

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coltsnsox07 said:
I bought up a bunch because I assumed alot more USA guys would be in it like Jeter, Pedroia, Braun etc. I considered the Japanese guys a second option at $$ makers, I didn't picture the final checklist being so terrible. I got 2 so far and they're both a pitcher from Netherlands named Sulbaran with a tiny corner of orange "patch" on a black jersey, 5 more on the way.

The Japanese guys will probably sell for more than most of the American guys, if that is worth anything. The American guys have so many patch cards already, while the Japanese guys don't have any for the most part
 

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Topps clearly got lazy and tried to get away with a few jerseys so shame on them. But get a grip people. Buying redemptions is the same gamble as buying wax. The Exquisite redemption is the same thing: people were relying on certain assumptions and formed expectations.

Even if there WERE jumbos you all weren't getting Darvish.
 

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DaleMurphyCollector said:
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You are aware that there are single color patch cards, right? And that they can be made from the same material as a jersey, right? And that there really isn't any legal precedent to determine what the definition of a "patch" is or a "jersey" or a "jersey swatch", so basically the companies can do anything they want. They can change anything they want, and they can send you whatever card they want.

It sucks. I feel bad for everyone. And if you want to vent your frustration, don't buy Topps again. But you know you will. We all will. Cause we collect cards and we don't mind getting disappointed by the card companies.

You are aware that I have the ability to see and feel the card sent to me and can confirm that it is in fact a swatch from a jersey.


PS....Already called Topps. A replacement is on it's way. :)

You're sending a Darvish jersey back to Topps? Are they giving you a Darvish in return, or will it be a random patch card?

I hope you get a Darvish back, otherwise you could get "screwed"....
 

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brouthercard said:
DaleMurphyCollector said:
brouthercard said:
You are aware that there are single color patch cards, right? And that they can be made from the same material as a jersey, right? And that there really isn't any legal precedent to determine what the definition of a "patch" is or a "jersey" or a "jersey swatch", so basically the companies can do anything they want. They can change anything they want, and they can send you whatever card they want.

It sucks. I feel bad for everyone. And if you want to vent your frustration, don't buy Topps again. But you know you will. We all will. Cause we collect cards and we don't mind getting disappointed by the card companies.

You are aware that I have the ability to see and feel the card sent to me and can confirm that it is in fact a swatch from a jersey.


PS....Already called Topps. A replacement is on it's way. :)

You're sending a Darvish jersey back to Topps? Are they giving you a Darvish in return, or will it be a random patch card?

I hope you get a Darvish back, otherwise you could get "screwed"....

They said, and I quote, "Keep the jersey".
 

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DaleMurphyCollector said:
brouthercard said:
DaleMurphyCollector said:
brouthercard said:
You are aware that there are single color patch cards, right? And that they can be made from the same material as a jersey, right? And that there really isn't any legal precedent to determine what the definition of a "patch" is or a "jersey" or a "jersey swatch", so basically the companies can do anything they want. They can change anything they want, and they can send you whatever card they want.

It sucks. I feel bad for everyone. And if you want to vent your frustration, don't buy Topps again. But you know you will. We all will. Cause we collect cards and we don't mind getting disappointed by the card companies.

You are aware that I have the ability to see and feel the card sent to me and can confirm that it is in fact a swatch from a jersey.


PS....Already called Topps. A replacement is on it's way. :)

You're sending a Darvish jersey back to Topps? Are they giving you a Darvish in return, or will it be a random patch card?

I hope you get a Darvish back, otherwise you could get "screwed"....

They said, and I quote, "Keep the jersey".

Nice.
 

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