Grading Question about Refractor Line.

[zbdub808]

Again, it was far tougher to see lines on those cards in person. They appeared much more silver and only appear black in scans. Not sure how that works, but I made almost $40 on that card somehow so I can't complain

That is always nice

 

[MOFNY]

I too thought that the highest final grade you could get is 0.5 higher than the lowest subgrade.
Maybe some subgrades are weighed differently? I guess I'm lucky this one got a 9 and not an 8.5.

Some are weighted differently. If centering was 8 and surface was 10 then it would go down to an 8.5.

I submit my card:

 

[zbdub808]

I submit my card:

That is huge! Hopefully I luck out for once

 

[Keyser Soze]

The BGS rule, as I have always heard it, is that a card can grade no higher than a full point above the lowest subgrade. Some people are incorrectly stating that a grade can only be .5 higher than the lowest subgrade, and that is not true, and many cards shown on the thread have indicated.

As George's Wong showed (hahahaha), it is completely plausible to get an 8.5 subgrade and be elevated by the other subgrades to a 9.5 overall, but there are very few cards that can get a 10 on the other 3 subgrades like George's was abble to do. George's Wong (hahahaha) just happens to be a Leaf Valiant, which is one of the few brands than can, with any regularity, get 10's on multiple subgrades

 

[ThoseBackPages]

The BGS rule, as I have always heard it, is that a card can grade no higher than a full point above the lowest subgrade. Some people are incorrectly stating that a grade can only be .5 higher than the lowest subgrade, and that is not true, and many cards shown on the thread have indicated.

As George's Wong showed (hahahaha), it is completely plausible to get an 8.5 subgrade and be elevated by the other subgrades to a 9.5 overall, but there are very few cards that can get a 10 on the other 3 subgrades like George's was abble to do. George's Wong (hahahaha) just happens to be a Leaf Valiant, which is one of the few brands than can, with any regularity, get 10's on multiple subgrades

1989 UD Griffey is another one in this category due to scratching on the hologram

 

[Keyser Soze]

As an aside, I personally do not think a card should be able to grade a gem mint overall if it has an 8.5 as a subgrade. A card labeled as Gem Mint should not have a subgrade that doesn't even qualify as Mint. But that's a different debate for a different thread

 

[olerud363]

As an aside, I personally do not think a card should be able to grade a gem mint overall if it has an 8.5 as a subgrade. A card labeled as Gem Mint should not have a subgrade that doesn't even qualify as Mint. But that's a different debate for a different thread

I agree.

I checked the BGS grading info (http://www.beckett.com/estore/helpsys/v ... icleId=301), and here are a few quotes that might apply to some of the discussion that has taken place here:
- "the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade"
- "the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9"
- "the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a "7" (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade)."

 

[Fandruw25]

As an aside, I personally do not think a card should be able to grade a gem mint overall if it has an 8.5 as a subgrade. A card labeled as Gem Mint should not have a subgrade that doesn't even qualify as Mint. But that's a different debate for a different thread

I agree.

I checked the BGS grading info (http://www.beckett.com/estore/helpsys/v ... icleId=301), and here are a few quotes that might apply to some of the discussion that has taken place here:
- "the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade"
- "the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9"
- "the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a "7" (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade)."

This rule hurts