Guess It's Up to Us to Vote in Puig

[Tywill555]

According to espn freeman is leading votes

 

[Wes]

Am I alone in thinking giving home field advantage this way is beyond idiotic? Personally I think HFA should be determined by the team with the better record, or the higher seeded team, but that's just me.

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I'd give it to the league with the better interleague record. Better team record can be inflated by the unbalanced schedule.

 

[sheetskout]

I'd give it to the league with the better interleague record. Better team record can be inflated by the unbalanced schedule.

You don't see any issue with seven of the top 11 payrolls being in the American League? I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm going to process this one for a minute.

 

[RiceLynnEvans75]

What's the cutoff for games played? I wasn't able to find that in the ASG rules so curious to know what is considered enough to make someone eligible.

I'm pretty sure there isn't one. Being that Derek Jeter had 380,000+ as of the beginning of June (couldn't find anything more updated) and the guy never played a game at all, I think that answers the question. So my understanding is if they are eligible for votes, they are eligible for selection.

 

[Wes]

You don't see any issue with seven of the top 11 payrolls being in the American League? I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm going to process this one for a minute.

The point of home field advantage is to give the better team credit for being better during the season. If you come through the stronger league, you've earned it, the statistic about the payrolls only adds to the case IMO.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

It's a simple question. What is the cutoff for enough games to qualify for the game?

Apparently more than 32 games for rookies. Without researching however, I bet the number is less for established vets with multiple AS selections under their belts. Some of those guys got in with pretty mediocre offensive numbers and few games especially towards the ends of their careers as we know. This is why its important to note Hanley's numbers actually exceed Puig's.

 

[Austin]

Final vote leaders so far, according to MLB.com

NL

1. Freddie Freeman
2. Yasiel Puig
3. Hunter Pence
4. Ian Desmond
5. Adrian Gonzalez

AL

1. Steve Delabar
2. Koji Uehara
3. David Robertson
4. Joaquin Benoit
5. Tanner Scheppers

 

[markakis8]

It's a simple question. What is the cutoff for enough games to qualify for the game?

I'll give you an answer to your question when you give an answer to mine

 

[Wes]

I'll give you an answer to your question when you give an answer to mine

I would want Puig over Hanley as I believe the ASG is a marketing event.

 

[markakis8]

I would want Puig over Hanley as I believe the ASG is a marketing event.

I didn't ask if you wanted Hanley over Puig, I asked would you put Hanley into the ASG, regardless of whether Puig makes it or not.

 

[chompsmcgee]

I would want Puig over Hanley as I believe the ASG is a marketing event.

Bingo. It's a grandiose exhibition game that added HFA to artificially inject some relevance. A knee-jerk reaction in response to criticism Selig garnered after the 2002 ASG tie fiasco.

Exhibition game, non-exhibition game - whatever you want to label it - a marketing event is what it truly is. ATM, Puig is what's interesting to non-baseball junkies and should be included in the game to help promote MLB.

 

[Austin]

Tuesday update from MLB.com

Freeman continues to lead over Puig.
Delabar still leads AL vote.

 

[Wes]

I didn't ask if you wanted Hanley over Puig, I asked would you put Hanley into the ASG, regardless of whether Puig makes it or not.

No. Now can I get an answer to my question?

 

[notjomommasclint]

Puig is exciting.. The game needs excitement..

Adam wainwright doesn't want to play..
Derek Jeter is racking up votes..

We will see 20 players pull themselves because they hurt themselves pulling themselves..

Until the player base takes it seriously why should we? Let the kid XXXX off and let him have fun and let me watch the fun and let me sing songs of me watching his fun.

 

[rum151man]

What's up with the voting conspiracy about teams from opposite leagues telling their fans to vote for the other leagues guys & vice versa to get there guy in???

 

[ronniedp23]

What's up with the voting conspiracy about teams from opposite leagues telling their fans to vote for the other leagues guys & vice versa to get there guy in???

What's up with ESPN and every other news outlet panhandling puig and trying to force him into the game?

Basically MLB and ESPN accused Toronto and Atlanta of collusion because they ran a joint campaign to get Freeman and whoever it is from Toronto in on the fan vote. If the news networks can shamelessly promote Puig then two teams can work together to get their boys in. There is no conspiracy.

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[sharktitanfan]

What's up with ESPN and every other news outlet panhandling puig and trying to force him into the game?


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I agree, in my opinion, ESPN is difficult to watch anymore. Puig shouldn't be in the All Star Game, he simply hasn't earned it. Granted he has made an early impression and put up great stats for a very short period of time. It is likely that he will have an opportunity to make many All Star Game appearances, but his MLB body of work this year is not enough to warrant an invite.

 

[nkdbacks]

What's up with ESPN and every other news outlet panhandling puig and trying to force him into the game?

Basically MLB and ESPN accused Toronto and Atlanta of collusion because they ran a joint campaign to get Freeman and whoever it is from Toronto in on the fan vote. If the news networks can shamelessly promote Puig then two teams can work together to get their boys in. There is no conspiracy.

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I didn't even realize there was uproar over this. Since the Final Vote was implemented AL and NL teams have gotten together to vote each other's guy in. Each team's announcers have promoted it during games, I remember there being hashtags on twitter for the pair of players last season, and a bunch of other promotion for an NL/AL pair. I don't see the issue with Atlanta and Toronto doing what's been done for the last few years.

 

[ronniedp23]

I didn't even realize there was uproar over this. Since the Final Vote was implemented AL and NL teams have gotten together to vote each other's guy in. Each team's announcers have promoted it during games, I remember there being hashtags on twitter for the pair of players last season, and a bunch of other promotion for an NL/AL pair. I don't see the issue with Atlanta and Toronto doing what's been done for the last few years.

Last year didn't have Puig. MLB wants him in that game something awful.

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[muskiesfan]

While some will take this as a personal knock/shot, it truly isn't meant that way. The OP and others who have posted would obviously want Puig in the All-Star Game. They are all about prospects. I am not saying that as a bad thing, but that's what they are mainly into. Just like if a Reds player were a finalist, most deserving or not, I would support them. That's my team.

In the end, I couldn't care less about the All-Star Game. It doesn't mean XXXX. If fans didn't get to pick who played, maybe I would put more stock into it. I know that it means something to some players and I understand that. Honestly, it says something positive about players who are multi-time All-Stars, but I don't think it says anything negative about a player who is not. Not being popular (or basically pimped by ESPN and other such worthless outlets) doesn't mean a player isn't good/great.