Hanley back to Boston?

[pujolsjunkie]

The Marlins have absolutely no reason to deal him. If I were them, I wouldn't even listen without Lester, Lars and Buchholz in the mix.

Bottom line, keep the guy you can build the franchise around. He is a superstar.

If i was dealing for a player of Hanleys caliber i would want players who i know could produce. Lester, Ellsbury, and Bay would be tempting.

I don't know if Ellsbury can produce. He looked pretty terrible for much of last year. LOL

Regardless, I'm just naming guys I'd want involved. It certainly wouldn't end there. It just makes no sense to deal Hanley.

 

[moxacaine]

The Marlins have absolutely no reason to deal him. If I were them, I wouldn't even listen without Lester, Lars and Buchholz in the mix.

Bottom line, keep the guy you can build the franchise around. He is a superstar.

If i was dealing for a player of Hanleys caliber i would want players who i know could produce. Lester, Ellsbury, and Bay would be tempting.

I don't know if Ellsbury can produce. He looked pretty terrible for much of last year. LOL

Regardless, I'm just naming guys I'd want involved. It certainly wouldn't end there. It just makes no sense to deal Hanley.

I agree, there is no reason to deal Hanley.

 

[bballcardkid]

That would suck as a fan, but would make me happy as a card collector/dumper.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

I wonder if Cano, Hughes, Nady and Montero would get him. LOL

Move Jeter to 2B and it's time to rock and roll. Sox fans would puke everywhere. :lol:

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

I wonder if Cano, Hughes, Nady and Montero would get him. LOL

Move Jeter to 2B and it's time to rock and roll. Sox fans would puke everywhere. :lol:

I would have to say, not even close.

 

[bigpapiMA32]

The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.

 

[moxacaine]

I wonder if Cano, Hughes, Nady and Montero would get him. LOL

Move Jeter to 2B and it's time to rock and roll. Sox fans would puke everywhere. :lol:

I think they would riot in Boston if that happened.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

I wonder if Cano, Hughes, Nady and Montero would get him. LOL

Move Jeter to 2B and it's time to rock and roll. Sox fans would puke everywhere. :lol:

I would have to say, not even close.

Toss in A-Jax and a briefcase with 15 million in unmarked bills...

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

[quote="bigpapiMA32":3iicdi0p]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:3iicdi0p]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.

 

[pujolsjunkie]

[quote="Tomlinson21RB":jvsyge16][quote="bigpapiMA32":jvsyge16]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:jvsyge16]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:jvsyge16]

The problem is, so do the Marlins.

However, I completely agree, any Red Sox fan not overjoyed with landing Hanley because they have to give up those prospects just doesn't understand the game. Hanley is a total game changer.

 

[Wes]

[quote="Tomlinson21RB":csjcwgk2][quote="bigpapiMA32":csjcwgk2]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:csjcwgk2]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:csjcwgk2]

Ellsbury maxed out on his potential? The guy just finished his rookie season jeez.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

[quote="bigpapiMA32":1aiha0uf][quote="Tomlinson21RB":1aiha0uf][quote="bigpapiMA32":1aiha0uf]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:1aiha0uf]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:1aiha0uf]

Ellsbury maxed out on his potential? The guy just finished his rookie season jeez.[/quote:1aiha0uf]

I guess I worded that wrong. I guess what I mean is, how much more do we really expect to see from him? He's not going to really develop power. Maybe maintain a higher batting average for the season instead of having a drop off. He's still a great piece for most teams, but I don't see him ever becoming much more than he is. I hope I'm wrong though because I love the energy he plays with.

 

[darocker80]

Anyone got any hanley chrome auto ft/fs?

 

[Wes]

[quote="Y4NK335":30g9ze6t][quote="bigpapiMA32":30g9ze6t][quote="Tomlinson21RB":30g9ze6t][quote="bigpapiMA32":30g9ze6t]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:30g9ze6t]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:30g9ze6t]

Ellsbury maxed out on his potential? The guy just finished his rookie season jeez.[/quote:30g9ze6t]

I guess I worded that wrong. I guess what I mean is, how much more do we really expect to see from him? He's not going to really develop power. Maybe maintain a higher batting average for the season instead of having a drop off. He's still a great piece for most teams, but I don't see him ever becoming much more than he is. I hope I'm wrong though because I love the energy he plays with.[/quote:30g9ze6t]

I think he can still become a .310 10 hr 50 steal guy

 

[pujolsjunkie]

I miss my Hanley refractor auto now.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Anyone got any hanley chrome auto ft/fs?

Base, Ref, and X. Also extras on the Tribute base and red.

 

[Wes]

Anyone got any hanley chrome auto ft/fs?

Base, Ref, and X. Also extras on the Tribute base and red.

See my trade list I have some interest.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

[quote="Tomlinson21RB":2z0c4xj4][quote="Y4NK335":2z0c4xj4][quote="bigpapiMA32":2z0c4xj4][quote="Tomlinson21RB":2z0c4xj4][quote="bigpapiMA32":2z0c4xj4]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:2z0c4xj4]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:2z0c4xj4]

Ellsbury maxed out on his potential? The guy just finished his rookie season jeez.[/quote:2z0c4xj4]

I guess I worded that wrong. I guess what I mean is, how much more do we really expect to see from him? He's not going to really develop power. Maybe maintain a higher batting average for the season instead of having a drop off. He's still a great piece for most teams, but I don't see him ever becoming much more than he is. I hope I'm wrong though because I love the energy he plays with.[/quote:2z0c4xj4]

I think he can still become a .310 10 hr 50 steal guy[/quote:2z0c4xj4]

I think that is kind of my point. He had 9 HR and 50 SB already last year. So really with those numbers, he can really only improve on batting average.

 

[Wes]

[quote="bigpapiMA32":1qx4tk21][quote="Tomlinson21RB":1qx4tk21][quote="Y4NK335":1qx4tk21][quote="bigpapiMA32":1qx4tk21][quote="Tomlinson21RB":1qx4tk21][quote="bigpapiMA32":1qx4tk21]The talks have ended. They wanted Ellsbury and Buchholz and possibly another top prospect.

The way you say that you make it sound like it ended because Boston wasn't willing to give that up. That is a absolute no brainer from the Sox perspective.

I'm sure they wanted at least three of
Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, Anderson, Lester, Lowrie

Which Theo would never do.

Plus they probably ended because Hanley is cheap til 2014. No sense in moving him.

I would think that one over. I would do it in a heartbeat

He is only 24 years of age, a career .308 hitter, and ranked in or close to the top 10 in all major stats for the NL including HRs, SB's, runs, walks, OBP and slugging. Most teams would give up whatever it takes to acquire a player of this caliber.

He'd probably give up Masterson, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bowden, and Lowrie to get Hanley.

Theo is way too high on Buchholz, which sucks. That's trading basically our whole system besides Lars for Hanley. I agree that he is good, but not that good.[/quote:1qx4tk21]

Who cares about our whole system? Hanley replaces Lowrie (to say the least), so throwing him in doesn't matter. Buchholz is still unproven, and even if he does work out the Sox already have 3 young aces. Ellsbury may have already maxed out on his potential. Masterson and Bowden are good, but again the pitching staff is already in good shape.

Giving up unproven guys for a top 5 talent at reasonable money sounds pretty good to me. As a board full of prospectors we tend to over value prospects in real baseball.[/quote:1qx4tk21]

Ellsbury maxed out on his potential? The guy just finished his rookie season jeez.[/quote:1qx4tk21]

I guess I worded that wrong. I guess what I mean is, how much more do we really expect to see from him? He's not going to really develop power. Maybe maintain a higher batting average for the season instead of having a drop off. He's still a great piece for most teams, but I don't see him ever becoming much more than he is. I hope I'm wrong though because I love the energy he plays with.[/quote:1qx4tk21]

I think he can still become a .310 10 hr 50 steal guy[/quote:1qx4tk21]

I think that is kind of my point. He had 9 HR and 50 SB already last year. So really with those numbers, he can really only improve on batting average.[/quote:1qx4tk21]

Those are numbers I would take from a leadoff man. Only thing I could see as wanting would be the BA obviously a .330+ avg would be considered elite.