Harper in Pro Debut...does it change anything?

[SportsCardMojo]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day, it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

 

[Jaypers]

As long as they continue to cut up AFLAC auto cards, no.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day,it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

Its not Bowman because it doesn't use the MLBP license, Pro Debut is the way MiLB players *should* be shown.

 

[CubsWSchamps]

I personally love Pro Debut and may break afw boxes

 

[SportsCardMojo]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day,it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

Its not Bowman because it doesn't use the MLBP license, Pro Debut is the way MiLB players *should* be shown.

Okay, that's fine, but does that help the product? Or is it less desirable. I wouldn't mind picking up a few base Harpers from Pro Debut just to add to my PC, but what would I do with the other cards I pull. Would they be worth anything? I'd rather try my chances at retail.

I guess the better question is, is there any value in Pro Debut.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day,it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

Its not Bowman because it doesn't use the MLBP license, Pro Debut is the way MiLB players *should* be shown.

Okay, that's fine, but does that help the product? Or is it less desirable. I wouldn't mind picking up a few base Harpers from Pro Debut just to add to my PC, but what would I do with the other cards I pull. Would they be worth anything? I'd rather try my chances at retail.

I guess the better question is, is there any value in Pro Debut.

That almost sounds like an ebay research question but Debut's only been out since last year.

But yes the MLBP license probably gives base Bowman more value than Debut right now. But then again Chrome is currently most popular anyway...things would proabably be different if Debut gets a Chrome set but who knows if Topps wants to risk their Bowman brand.

 

[csmtampa]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day,it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

Its not Bowman because it doesn't use the MLBP license, Pro Debut is the way MiLB players *should* be shown.

Okay, that's fine, but does that help the product? Or is it less desirable. I wouldn't mind picking up a few base Harpers from Pro Debut just to add to my PC, but what would I do with the other cards I pull. Would they be worth anything? I'd rather try my chances at retail.

I guess the better question is, is there any value in Pro Debut.

I know a lot of people who do TTM and IP on another site buy them in lots to get signed.

There is also someone either on this site or another (I forgot) who pays 6-8 cents per card.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

this is not a product to buy to "make money"

 

[packbusta]

Do they offer Pro Debut in retail form?

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Do they offer Pro Debut in retail form?

Not in 2010. But without the MLBP license, the general public wouldn't recognize the players *or* the teams anyway. At least with Bowman and its license the public would recognize the teams.

 

[SportsCardMojo]

Do they offer Pro Debut in retail form?

Good question.

And to all those people making assumptions, if you've read any of my previous post, you will know I'm not out to make money. If anything, I'm in a huge hole from last year's buying extravaganza. Honestly, I'm looking to "recover" money from the cards I don't care to collect. So when I say "value", I don't want to get boxes of Pro Debut only to have to sit on them. I'm not interested in GU or even the remote possibility of pulling the Harper Relic. I'd like to pull some Harper, Machado, Ackley Base cards. And yes, I could buy singles, but there's no fun in that. I like the element of surprise.

Honestly, my questions came because of my curiosity about the product. I remember talking to a LCS owner who was saying 2010 Pro Debut was junk. I had never seen the cards or what came out of them. Never read about it either. So this year with a few players I wouldn't mind having in my PC, I wanted to see if I'm paying $70 to risk pulling 3-4 base cards and then storing the rest in my basement. But if I could offload them, then everyone wins.

 

[TopOffLikeWALLACE]

Full sets sell VERY well.

 

[Kevbo]

I think there's value in them there cards.
The patches are the chase, and I THINK they might be actual minor league jersey patches this year instead of the WORLD or USA futures games ones. That'd be huge, I hope if it's true that they continue that for years.

Being a clone of the Topps base design is great too. It adds continuity if you're building sets.
There's not a whole ton of this stuff made either. With parallels running at 8 per box, with one /50 per box, that's certainly not a saturated product.

Cutting up the aflacs though. I just don't get it. Nobody likes it. Nobody.

And you never really know for certain who'll pop out and be huge like Manny Banuelos this year. Blue parallels for $60? cool.

I have my master set of 2010, and it's the only complete set besides base topps I have around here anymore. I look forward to doing another one, maybe even a parallel one.

I really like this approach vs Bowman. I wish it was always just like this, and had chrome.
If this had chrome and they discontinued Bowman, good lord that'd be awesome, and make so much sense.

 

[coltsnsox07]

Remember the Manny Banuelos cards?

 

[hail2thevictors]

Full sets sell VERY well.

They actually don't sell that well.

To me, I love minor league cards and getting them signed at games-so I like Pro Debut. But, I wouldn't do it to make money, the margin on the product is very small, IMO. Might as well go after Topps Series 2 instead.

And Harper being in there doesn't do that much, if you ask me. His 2011 Bowman card will already be out, and with a 330 card set, you should get around 6 Harper's per case-that just doesn't make that big of a difference if you ask me.

 

[hail2thevictors]

Remember the Manny Banuelos cards?

That is fine and dandy, but you had to hold Banuelos cards for over 6 months to make that much on them. Taking that into account, it makes it less attractive-unless you have the funds available that you could afford to wait on the base and sell them as they get hotter.

 

[hail2thevictors]

I've been told Pro Debut is one of the worst product lines. I know they are trying hard to improve it this year, but I was curious, does having Harper base and the 1/1 relic change anything? I see the checklist has some popular names, but...at the end of the day,it's not Bowman. So is Pro Debut even worth consideration?

Its not Bowman because it doesn't use the MLBP license, Pro Debut is the way MiLB players *should* be shown.

Okay, that's fine, but does that help the product? Or is it less desirable. I wouldn't mind picking up a few base Harpers from Pro Debut just to add to my PC, but what would I do with the other cards I pull. Would they be worth anything? I'd rather try my chances at retail.

I guess the better question is, is there any value in Pro Debut.

I know a lot of people who do TTM and IP on another site buy them in lots to get signed.

There is also someone either on this site or another (I forgot) who pays 6-8 cents per card.

You are right, there is a guy who buys them in bulk for 8 cents a piece or something-which is a rip off for whoever is selling them at that price. If you bust cases and sell base at 8 cents a piece, you will be taking a big time loss on this stuff.

 

[aminors]

Cutting up the aflacs though. I just don't get it. Nobody likes it. Nobody.

Tell that to the people who were paying $125+ for the Singleton at and for a month following release.

 

[onenineeightsix]

I think the jersey cards in 2010 were the best "standard" jersey cards I saw all year from Topps. The patches were incredible too albeit hard to find. If they could beef up the auto checklist ( without leeching off the Bowman brand too badly) and just insert the Aflac's as they are ( ala the Red Zone Rookie auto's for the NFL) as a bonus hit then I think this product would be a HUGE hit.

 

[beefycheddar]

I think the jersey cards in 2010 were the best "standard" jersey cards I saw all year from Topps. The patches were incredible too albeit hard to find. If they could beef up the auto checklist ( without leeching off the Bowman brand too badly) and just insert the Aflac's as they are ( ala the Red Zone Rookie auto's for the NFL) as a bonus hit then I think this product would be a HUGE hit.

AFLACs are Bowman Branded, it's a Topps Branded license, hence why AFLACs can't be in.