Hobby Roundtable

[cgilmo]

I respect Tracy Hackler because he is not fat.

I'm fat


do you have a problem with me?

Do you have a centre-part?

a what?

Do you part your hair in the center?

No, I do not.

 

[miguelcabrera]

wait, phillyfan is fat?

 

[hawkfandan]

So far, I've only watched the first video. What did we learn? Nothing new. There will be fewer releases. How many? Nobody knows. The monopoly may or may not be good for the hobby, depending on your view of things. Lastly, fewer releases mean Beckett is having an even harder time coming up with content for their magazine & is instead focusing on older releases. Got it. Is there anything in the 2nd & 3rd videos that make them worth watching or is it just more of the same?

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

If this was 5-10 years ago, Beckett's word might mean something.

Beckett is nothing but a grading company now. They have rested on the past for far too long to be relevant today. I appreciate the fact that they think that they're important, but they just don't carry any weight any longer with that comical price guide and zero non-PR content.

 

[WJCIII]

If this was 5-10 years ago, Beckett's word might mean something.

Beckett is nothing but a grading company now. They have rested on the past for far too long to be relevant today. I appreciate the fact that they think that they're important, but they just don't carry any weight any longer with that comical price guide and zero non-PR content.

If the price guide is unimportant to the hobby, how has it managed to survive all of these years? Furthermore, have you ever been to a card show? Beckett price guids are the Bible at shows. Whether you like it or not, a lot of folks still look to Beckett for their pricing.

 

[ChasHawk]

If this was 5-10 years ago, Beckett's word might mean something.

Beckett is nothing but a grading company now. They have rested on the past for far too long to be relevant today. I appreciate the fact that they think that they're important, but they just don't carry any weight any longer with that comical price guide and zero non-PR content.

If the price guide is unimportant to the hobby, how has it managed to survive all of these years? Furthermore, have you ever been to a card show? Beckett price guids are the Bible at shows. Whether you like it or not, a lot of folks still look to Beckett for their pricing.

This is true, and sad.

 

[goldenegg1]

I set up at shows and I will use the Beckett on a lot of the late 90's early 00's cards. I do not have the time to look up on ebay to see what they sell for and then quote a price based on that. It is much easier to have all the price guides behind my table to look up. With that being said, if a card books for $50 and it is not a current hot player, I will sell the card for $10-$15. My point is, if you are going to deal in cards, know what stuff is worth, educate yourself, and when in doubt go to the price guide and negotiate with your customer.

 

[jswaykos]

I set up at shows and I will use the Beckett on a lot of the late 90's early 00's cards. I do not have the time to look up on ebay to see what they sell for and then quote a price based on that. It is much easier to have all the price guides behind my table to look up. With that being said, if a card books for $50 and it is not a current hot player, I will sell the card for $10-$15. My point is, if you are going to deal in cards, know what stuff is worth, educate yourself, and when in doubt go to the price guide and negotiate with your customer.

Ding ding! I agree with this 100%. Beckett is quick. I can't take a computer with me everywhere to look up value on the fly, nor do I always have time (or feel like taking the time) to sort through ebay listings on my phone. If someone is uneducated and buys stuff at book value, so be it. It's their money. If you're educated, you take the values with a grain of salt, especially on older stuff that isn't always (if ever?) adjusted.

Seems to me like most people here are just jealous. If you can do such a better job of gathering pricing info, do it for all of us. In the mean time, I'll just use my Beckett to get a general sense of a card's value.

 

[cgilmo]

I set up at shows and I will use the Beckett on a lot of the late 90's early 00's cards. I do not have the time to look up on ebay to see what they sell for and then quote a price based on that. It is much easier to have all the price guides behind my table to look up. With that being said, if a card books for $50 and it is not a current hot player, I will sell the card for $10-$15. My point is, if you are going to deal in cards, know what stuff is worth, educate yourself, and when in doubt go to the price guide and negotiate with your customer.

Ding ding! I agree with this 100%. Beckett is quick. I can't take a computer with me everywhere to look up value on the fly, nor do I always have time (or feel like taking the time) to sort through ebay listings on my phone. If someone is uneducated and buys stuff at book value, so be it. It's their money. If you're educated, you take the values with a grain of salt, especially on older stuff that isn't always (if ever?) adjusted.

Seems to me like most people here are just jealous. If you can do such a better job of gathering pricing info, do it for all of us. In the mean time, I'll just use my Beckett to get a general sense of a card's value.

almost correct


Change jealous to jaded, and there ya go.

 

[phillyfan0417]

wait, phillyfan is fat?

Arent all people who dont live in the big city?

 

[jswaykos]

I set up at shows and I will use the Beckett on a lot of the late 90's early 00's cards. I do not have the time to look up on ebay to see what they sell for and then quote a price based on that. It is much easier to have all the price guides behind my table to look up. With that being said, if a card books for $50 and it is not a current hot player, I will sell the card for $10-$15. My point is, if you are going to deal in cards, know what stuff is worth, educate yourself, and when in doubt go to the price guide and negotiate with your customer.

Ding ding! I agree with this 100%. Beckett is quick. I can't take a computer with me everywhere to look up value on the fly, nor do I always have time (or feel like taking the time) to sort through ebay listings on my phone. If someone is uneducated and buys stuff at book value, so be it. It's their money. If you're educated, you take the values with a grain of salt, especially on older stuff that isn't always (if ever?) adjusted.

Seems to me like most people here are just jealous. If you can do such a better job of gathering pricing info, do it for all of us. In the mean time, I'll just use my Beckett to get a general sense of a card's value.

almost correct


Change jealous to jaded, and there ya go.

I'll give ya that. MOST collector's that I've ever come across do NOT spend all day in message boards, watching box breaks, etc. So Beckett caters to the masses (relatively speaking, of course), and thus is able to survive. They couldn't care less that 10% of the collecting community doesn't hold them in the highest of regards, because 90% do.

 

[cgilmo]

And there's where your numbers are off.

I am certain that more than 10% of collectors use blogs and message boards or at least corporate facebook pages.

 

[jswaykos]

And there's where your numbers are off.

I am certain that more than 10% of collectors use blogs and message boards or at least corporate facebook pages.

See, I just can't imagine that. Even if I upped it to 25% use boards/blogs, that's still an awful lot of people who don't, and thus may trust Beckett implicitly. Now, I'm obviously going with a small sample size here, but the people in my life who collect cards (spanning a few generations) do not use either. Not that they necessarily rely on Beckett, but they don't see anything wrong with the publication.

It's almost as if Beckett is in cahoots with the dealers/distributors/whoever and purposely puts out high prices so everyone feels like they're getting a good deal... ebay/shops conspiracy theory, anyone? (I'm kidding... maybe)

BUT, who really knows. Bottom line is that Beckett must be doing something right to still be around! If I were offered a job, it paid enough, and was secure enough (which probably isn't all that safe to assume these days), I'd join their staff. Then I wouldn't have to minimize websites all day long at "work".