How come to this day Beckett...

[sportscardtheory]

Does not recognize how much higher Ken Griffey Jr.'s cards are? The guy's '90s stuff outsells every other player, besides MAYBE Jeter, yet in Beckett he is still listed as the 3rd or 4rth highest price in any given set to players like Bonds, Ripken Jr., McGwire, Thomas and Ryan, and they have him as equal to players like Piazza, Maddux, Rodriguez, and Garciaparra. He clearly outsells ALL of these players by a very wide margin. I guess Beckett is just sleep-walking as usual. What a joke they have become.

 

[darocker80]

And they just started listing Lincecum cards (base and such). Took them long enough with Joba and **** listed

 

[Pine Tar]

He has always been under-valued for sometime, plus he does sign a lot of stuff so that may have something to do with it.

 

[kdailey4315]

I thought Beckett pricing didn't really mean anything anymore.

 

[darocker80]

How often do they update 90s prices?

 

[sportscardtheory]

I thought Beckett pricing didn't really mean anything anymore.

Clearly it doesn't... but they still masquerade as a price guide.

 

[RZimm11]

Remember...it's only a Guide! :lol:

 

[cgilmo]

Remember...it's only a Guide! :lol:

actually, this statement is very accurate

and I am sure that the people who do the price guide at beckett would agree with you.

I personally think there are better market indicators out there, and I use those instead of beckett's price guide. But if someone wants to use it, then more power to them.

 

[RZimm11]

Remember...it's only a Guide! :lol:

actually, this statement is very accurate

and I am sure that the people who do the price guide at beckett would agree with you.

I personally think there are better market indicators out there, and I use those instead of beckett's price guide. But if someone wants to use it, then more power to them.

That's what I was referring to. I completely understand they are a guide. I am amused how some people use it as gospel for prices, when clearly they are at the very minimum a month behind due to it being a monthly magazine. Even the OPG is out of date. You can VERY rarely find a card getting anywhere near their prices by the time the next issue comes out. And they don't list the very rare cards due to low print runs, but they are the ones that generally garner the most attention, at least in new sets it seems.

Edit:
Also, I believe now it is called Beckett Baseball Card (or Football, etc.) Monthly. I think I remember it being called Baseball Card Price Guide years back, and they specifically changed it for the purpose of not mis-leading people into using the prices as law, like a lot of dealers did back then.

 

[BunchOBull]

This isn't really an accurate statement. It depends on the card and the set. Sometimes, Beckett is spot on...sometime they're way OVER value...others, they're WAY under value. However, they're always a joke. Also, this is true for any '90s star.

I find collectors want to use Beckett when it helps their cause and want to use eBay values when it hurts. I only use eBay or my own set value.

Since when did Frank Thomas start getting listed with higher values than Ken Griffey Jr? I haven't seen Thomas as a listed star in years.

 

[Fandruw25]

Probably because the sheer amount of manpower it would take to catalog all 90's sales and all new release issues wouldn't be worth it in the long run. Certain sets, regardless of player, sell way above book, and other sell way under. Just depends on the collecting base.

And remember, it's a guide, not something that is set in stone.

 

[sportscardtheory]

This isn't really an accurate statement. It depends on the card and the set. Sometimes, Beckett is spot on...sometime they're way OVER value...others, they're WAY under value. However, they're always a joke. Also, this is true for any '90s star.

I find collectors want to use Beckett when it helps their cause and want to use eBay values when it hurts. I only use eBay or my own set value.

Since when did Frank Thomas start getting listed with higher values than Ken Griffey Jr? I haven't seen Thomas as a listed star in years.

I was looking at a Thomas that "booked" for $100 in the same set a Griffey Jr. was $80 (a set where the Griffey Jr. would most likely sell for $500 or so). I didn't make it up.

 

[011873]

The main thing that Beckett HAS TO fix isnt some random McGwire/Piazza/Cal, etc.insert that books $15 and sells for a few bucks.

The biggest change they have to make are prices for cards that have no business booking for what they do.

Chip Canon BC auto $25?
Humber BC auto $25?
ANYTHING MATT BUSH STILL LISTED?

Its the plain as day, totally obvious, "hasnt seen these prices since they first went up", values that need to be changed.

Lastly, youd be shocked how many people still use Beckett. Its A LOT greater than you all think and I see if first hand at the biggest shows.

The people who soley use Ebay values are mostly prospectors.

 

[connerusmc86]

While I agree with at least a little of what all above posts have stated..I think its safe to say that ALL collectors use both ebay and beckett as a scale of value that sort of balance each other out..personally, i collect 05 Prime Patches patch cards and after years of constantly watching,selling,buying on ebay the prices on cards fluxuate for a variety of reasons. Obviously Prospect/rookie cards will always go up and down but veterans like chipper jones and roberto alomar whose card prices for the most part stay around the same are constantly changing due to supercollector needs and bidding wars, thus making beckett useless, they list this card http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... K:MEWAX:IT at $25 hi value..obviously wrong....

 

[mudflap02]

I was just looking at the 2007 Bowman Chrome Lincecum auto, and I guess it still books 120, the same as the Joba? Heritage black refractors of the same player can book from 25 to 60, depending on the year. The refractors /558 from 2007 book 10-15 apiece, refs from 2008 high numbers book 5 apiece. Again, same players, same numbering. They are just out of touch with the realities of the market.

I understand using BV as a "guide" when you're not really sure how much each side of a trade is worth, but when there's a measurable system like ebay in place that gives you an exact real-time value, I have no idea why some people are still strictly trading by BV.

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Beckett values are like gas prices - quick to increase in value, but slow to come back down. I guess this reinforces a bull market and keeps people from being too upset over loosing money off old purchases.

The main thing that Beckett HAS TO fix isnt some random McGwire/Piazza/Cal, etc.insert that books $15 and sells for a few bucks.

The biggest change they have to make are prices for cards that have no business booking for what they do.

Chip Canon BC auto $25?
Humber BC auto $25?
ANYTHING MATT BUSH STILL LISTED?

Its the plain as day, totally obvious, "hasnt seen these prices since they first went up", values that need to be changed.

Lastly, youd be shocked how many people still use Beckett. Its A LOT greater than you all think and I see if first hand at the biggest shows.

The people who soley use Ebay values are mostly prospectors.

 

[bodiaz]

Even thought there are far more Griffey collectors than Bonds and McGwire collectors, I know Bonds and McGwire autos sell higher than Griffey autos do. Griffey has signed alot of stuff, and even though he remains popular, he hasn't been a star player for over 10 years now. Try to trade a Griffey auto for a similar McGwire or Bonds auto. I wish you luck.

 

[ChasHawk]

I was just looking at the 2007 Bowman Chrome Lincecum auto, and I guess it still books 120, the same as the Joba? Heritage black refractors of the same player can book from 25 to 60, depending on the year. The refractors /558 from 2007 book 10-15 apiece, refs from 2008 high numbers book 5 apiece. Again, same players, same numbering. They are just out of touch with the realities of the market.

I understand using BV as a "guide" when you're not really sure how much each side of a trade is worth, but when there's a measurable system like ebay in place that gives you an exact real-time value, I have no idea why some people are still strictly trading by BV.

Because 90% of the time, it benefits them in the deal, period.

To the post that referenced Beckett's usage at big shows. That practice is still rampant at shows I've been to in IL.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I was just looking at the 2007 Bowman Chrome Lincecum auto, and I guess it still books 120, the same as the Joba? Heritage black refractors of the same player can book from 25 to 60, depending on the year. The refractors /558 from 2007 book 10-15 apiece, refs from 2008 high numbers book 5 apiece. Again, same players, same numbering. They are just out of touch with the realities of the market.

I understand using BV as a "guide" when you're not really sure how much each side of a trade is worth, but when there's a measurable system like ebay in place that gives you an exact real-time value, I have no idea why some people are still strictly trading by BV.

Because 90% of the time, it benefits them in the deal, period.

To the post that referenced Beckett's usage at big shows. That practice is still rampant at shows I've been to in IL.

I guess that smart idea is to take cards that are high in Beckett that don't sell anywhere near those prices for sell and trade. lol