How does this card make it into a Best of anything product?

[Jaypers]

I respectfully disagree. Myself, and numerous others have pumped a lot of money into that product. There was an issue with it and it was a rational attempt to discern why one seller had so many of one type of card. If cardboardconglomerate was selling 20 each of the Blue Wave Autos, and I was heavily invested into the chrome auto, I'd post the same type of post.

Keep my eBay handle out of your constant BG diatribes.

 

[daveyou]

saw the griffey pull but damn, did u see that xander gold auto bgs 10/10 from cardsinfinity?? wowza.

dave

 

[phillyfan0417]

saw the griffey pull but damn, did u see that xander gold auto bgs 10/10 from cardsinfinity?? wowza.

dave

I think the point of this thread is to only point at the bad pulls. Pulls like you describe do not fit the narrative.

 

[daveyou]

btw, brian. did u happen to read that idea someone posted about that now famous ichiro psa 10 lot in sale on ebay? that u should win it and make it into ichiro best of? chance at ult coll, gold ref and spx...do. it. plz!!

dave

 

[daveyou]

I think the point of this thread is to only point at the bad pulls. Pulls like you describe do not fit the narrative.

im a rebel. lol

i dont know...these leaf stuff gets tiring..im a half glass full type of guy.

leaf best of..line rocks!

dave

 

[phillyfan0417]

im a rebel. lol

i dont know...these leaf stuff gets tiring..im a half glass full type of guy.

leaf best of..line rocks!

dave

Its always the same players and yes, it can be tiring.


I have an issue or two especially with the one Jeff points out and the purple refs, but its my fault i never reached out to BG about it.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

First, I appreciate Jeff's concern..


Second, I strongly feel that his post was an attempt to create controversy and buzz. If he actually wanted an answer, he knows full well he could call me to discuss.

I am not unapproachable and answer every question I can, but Jeff, this is exactly why I constantly discourage hecklers from ruining perfectly good discussions between manufacturer and collector.. BG

I have your answer. I'd like others, like those who have provided me with additional information, to come out of the woodwork to challenge your answer. A telephone call doesn't lead to the community providing additional information and allows you to mislead or misdirect, or flat out feed me misinformation.

The information I have is the flat out sale of 80% of the Purple Refractor autographs to the eBayer in question for $40k. It is, admittedly, hearsay and hearsay only. I trust that your opinion is that this transaction never happened?

 

[daveyou]

Its always the same players and yes, it can be tiring.


I have an issue or two especially with the one Jeff points out and the purple refs, but its my fault i never reached out to BG about it.

i hear ya, bud. im all for voicing concerns n opinions bc the feedbacks brian gets can help future lines (hopefully. lol)

not sure what purple ref topic was about but hope it works out!

dave

 

[phillyfan0417]

i hear ya, bud. im all for voicing concerns n opinions bc the feedbacks brian gets can help future lines (hopefully. lol)

not sure what purple ref topic was about but hope it works out!

dave

In a nutshell, it looks like a large majority of purple refractors ended up in the hands of one ebay seller. Jeff and I discussed this after we were going after a particular player and every time one ended, another one came up for sale from the same seller. Looks like Jeff has done a little more work than I but if what he says is true, its very unfortunate...

 

[daveyou]

In a nutshell, it looks like a large majority of purple refractors ended up in the hands of one ebay seller. Jeff and I discussed this after we were going after a particular player and every time one ended, another one came up for sale from the same seller. Looks like Jeff has done a little more work than I but if what he says is true, its very unfortunate...

woah. wait, and serial # were all different? these were #/25 if i recall?

oh wow...thats crazy...yikes..

thanks for the info on that. missed out on a lot of stuff on fcb recently so im a little lost on new topics

dave

 

[phillyfan0417]

woah. wait, and serial # were all different? these were #/25 if i recall?

oh wow...thats crazy...yikes..

thanks for the info on that. missed out on a lot of stuff on fcb recently so im a little lost on new topics

dave

Well, based on what I saw since i followed the sales of one player closely, its almost impossible those were gotten by opening the product although I didnt really follow any other player...

 

[All In Cards]

Didnt BG say that the cards went to a retail packer as replacements and that retail person then sold them on the ebayer. Something like that.

Also BG said these cards should not have been used as replacement for the retail packer.

Also they are still #ed to 25, nothing there changed. its not like BC when we had 7 to 8 Red Refractors of a few guys.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Didnt BG say that the cards went to a retail packer as replacements and that retail person then sold them on the ebayer. Something like that.

Also BG said these cards should not have been used as replacement for the retail packer.

Also they are still #ed to 25, nothing there changed. its not like BC when we had 7 to 8 Red Refractors of a few guys.

I guess that could be plausible but that means at least in that case of one player, more than half the purple refs of ONE player went to one person.

I understand that replacements are held back but that is a whole lot of replacements...

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Didnt BG say that the cards went to a retail packer as replacements and that retail person then sold them on the ebayer. Something like that.

Also BG said these cards should not have been used as replacement for the retail packer.

Also they are still #ed to 25, nothing there changed. its not like BC when we had 7 to 8 Red Refractors of a few guys.

THe difference is one person having a market share and owning the market rather them coming out in the chain of distribution as previously stated.

Imagine Topps distributing 5 orange refractors in packs and sending the other 20 to one seller to sell.

Does that pass the smell test, Andrew?

 

[bradical]

Pro Tip #33: If a company does not offer a checklist of what is in their product prior to release, stay away.

 

[All In Cards]

THe difference is one person having a market share and owning the market rather them coming out in the chain of distribution as previously stated.

Imagine Topps distributing 5 orange refractors in packs and sending the other 20 to one seller to sell.

Does that pass the smell test, Andrew?

The thing I dont think you understand is once Leaf sold the cards to the "Retail Packer" they are out his hand. The Packer should have packed them out, not sold the lot to the ebayer.

BG already said this will change and not happen again. Sometimes you have to believe what you read on the internet.

also if you ran the #s, there were no way over 4000 LRR made leaving a ton not packed out.

 

[MansGame]

This thread is full of insight and information...

My 2 cents is the following... I don't buy a lot of wax and don't have the huge money to pay for expensive boxes but I do dive in sometimes for events like my BDay, etc. If I purchased a box of this BOB and pulled this Jr. auto card, I'd have my heart torn out. What an awful card... same with that damn Jeter, was that really a pull from a product?! I would just feel so TAKEN

In other news, I think it is pretty cool a rep from Leaf is active on this board to back his brand, take feedback, give info, etc. If only Topps had a guy on this board to listen to feedback on their exclusive product ::facepalm::

 

[George_Calfas]

This thread is full of insight and information...

My 2 cents is the following... I don't buy a lot of wax and don't have the huge money to pay for expensive boxes but I do dive in sometimes for events like my BDay, etc. If I purchased a box of this BOB and pulled this Jr. auto card, I'd have my heart torn out. What an awful card... same with that damn Jeter, was that really a pull from a product?! I would just feel so TAKEN

In other news, I think it is pretty cool a rep from Leaf is active on this board to back his brand, take feedback, give info, etc. If only Topps had a guy on this board to listen to feedback on their exclusive product ::facepalm::

Topps once had or still has member(s) here; they are often turned off due to XXXXXing.

 

[Topnotchsy]

I think the issue here is that when someone has an issue and posts to the world without first giving the company a chance to respond, the world sees only one explanation of the story and runs with it. In the case of the Jeter card, BG has expressed he would replace the card and apologized, and yet many people will have only read the initial post, and never see that. The result is that what could have been an innocent mistake (and undamaged that Jeter card is quite nice) becomes something that people use to define the company.

Regarding the Griffey, Griffey certainly was one of the best in baseball for many years, though I agree I would not be pleased to receive that card for two reasons. One is simply because of the value of the card, but on that end of the equation I know that buying wax is a risky business (just bought 2 boxes of A&G and for around $85 apiece and pulled one $10 card and otherwise not a thing over $2) and Leaf BoB provides a better return on average than most wax, so can't really complain too much about that, even though it is annoying to be the one on the short end.

The complaint I can here is that there are so many nicer Griffey autographs in a similar price range. It is similar to the complaint with cut signatures. A card like this makes it feel like the company did not care all that much, since it is really not a great piece (aesthetically, grading-wise etc.) Of course this may be the exception to the rule, and it's hard to be 100% perfect in the purchasing, so I think it is important to consider it in the larger picture.

JMO.

 

[George_Calfas]

Just because a company offers to replace an item, and does send a replacement does not mean that the consumer receives the promised replacement.