Howard > Pujols 2011 version

[Brewer Andy]

Its 2011 Pujols leads the league in GIDP AND he has stuck out more times than Howard, this without even
mentioning Howards 6 RBI's. Shouldn't Howard have more K's than Pujols before you start talking like that?

Kevin

Not on day 4 when there's 7 years of documentation that says otherwise, no

 

[A_Pharis]

Its 2011 Pujols leads the league in GIDP AND he has stuck out more times than Howard, this without even
mentioning Howards 6 RBI's. Shouldn't Howard have more K's than Pujols before you start talking like that?

Kevin

In 2011, theres been 3 games by each players team. 3 Games.

Dude. He's just a troll. THis is the only enjoyment he gets out of life. It's gotten to the point where he even dates the troll thread to the year.

He's a loser.

 

[schmidtfan20]

Its 2011 Pujols leads the league in GIDP AND he has stuck out more times than Howard, this without even
mentioning Howards 6 RBI's. Shouldn't Howard have more K's than Pujols before you start talking like that?

Kevin

In 2011, theres been 3 games by each players team. 3 Games.

IF you are the Cards, are you going to pay Pujols on what he did last year?

 

[A_Pharis]

Its 2011 Pujols leads the league in GIDP AND he has stuck out more times than Howard, this without even
mentioning Howards 6 RBI's. Shouldn't Howard have more K's than Pujols before you start talking like that?

Kevin

In 2011, theres been 3 games by each players team. 3 Games.

IF you are the Cards, are you going to pay Pujols on what he did last year?

Sure, if I think he can average out over those years in the same was he has for the past 10 (or even close). When basing a player's worth, you don't look at their last year alone.

 

[scotty21690]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

While this is true, Pujols was 6th in the majors in GIDPs last season, 3rd in the NL. He was first in the NL in 2007. He is probably the greatest hitter we will see in this era, but he is not perfect.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Its 2011 Pujols leads the league in GIDP AND he has stuck out more times than Howard, this without even
mentioning Howards 6 RBI's. Shouldn't Howard have more K's than Pujols before you start talking like that?

Kevin

In 2011, theres been 3 games by each players team. 3 Games.

IF you are the Cards, are you going to pay Pujols on what he did last year?

Sure, if I think he can average out over those years in the same was he has for the past 10 (or even close). When basing a player's worth, you don't look at their last year alone.

lol Yeah, you use the last 3 or 4 games. That's what a smart baseball person does.

 

[A_Pharis]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

While this is true, Pujols was 6th in the majors in GIDPs last season, 3rd in the NL. He was first in the NL in 2007. He is probably the greatest hitter we will see in this era, but he is not perfect.

Yeah, but this is comparing him to Howard... not everyone. I'd rather take a guy that hits into double plays than a guy who can't make contact. The only thing grounding into DPs that much says to me is that the guy before him is doing his job. The only difference between GIDP and a regular groundout? The rest of the team making contact, too.

 

[Brewer Andy]

Didn't last years thread end in a suspension? or was that some other piece of genius?

 

[scotty21690]

[quote="A_Pharis":18z3n5g4]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

While this is true, Pujols was 6th in the majors in GIDPs last season, 3rd in the NL. He was first in the NL in 2007. He is probably the greatest hitter we will see in this era, but he is not perfect.

Yeah, but this is comparing him to Howard... not everyone. I'd rather take a guy that hits into double plays than a guy who can't make contact. The only thing grounding into DPs that much says to me is that the guy before him is doing his job. The only difference between GIDP and a regular groundout? The rest of the team making contact, too.[/quote:18z3n5g4]
I understand completely, I respect a hitter that puts the ball in play. And that is why he GIDP quite often. Putting the ball in play is always better than striking out.

 

[A_Pharis]

[quote="A_Pharis":uxx8ga6l]

[quote="schmidtfan20":uxx8ga6l]cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

While this is true, Pujols was 6th in the majors in GIDPs last season, 3rd in the NL. He was first in the NL in 2007. He is probably the greatest hitter we will see in this era, but he is not perfect.

Yeah, but this is comparing him to Howard... not everyone. I'd rather take a guy that hits into double plays than a guy who can't make contact. The only thing grounding into DPs that much says to me is that the guy before him is doing his job. The only difference between GIDP and a regular groundout? The rest of the team making contact, too.[/quote:uxx8ga6l]
I understand completely, I respect a hitter that puts the ball in play. And that is why he GIDP quite often. Putting the ball in play is always better than striking out.[/quote:uxx8ga6l]


Bingo, my man.

 

[markakis8]

Howard with an RBI is each of the first two games, a Homer and a double in two at bats along with 4 RBI's already today.
Pujols started off 0 for 5 grounding into two double plays. I bet the cards are happy they passed on that
contract.

Kevin

First of all, it was three double plays not two. Secondly, do you find it difficult to hide your homosexuality?

projecting your own issues? :shock:

It must be terrible to be so insecure that schmidtfan's trolling upsets you :lol:

My only issue is a person that adds absolutely nothing to a forum other than intentionally causing trouble.

And that means he must be a homosexual? Got it.

That speaks volumes about your maturity, mozzie

pwned

 

[Russ S.]

This comparison and argument happens at the beginning of EVERY year, the last 5 or so.

Howard starts out hot, then fizzles.
Pujols always shuts people up and shows why he's the best in the game.

 

[markakis8]

Pujols should strike out more, he is killing his team grounding into double plays.

Haha this was actually pretty funny

i know, i laughed out loud too. rare funny quote from kevin.

 

[TomMurry]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

If you're on 3rd base and Howard chokes and strikes out like he ususally does in that situation, leaving a Man on, I'd take pujols

 

[schmidtfan20]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

If you're on 3rd base and Howard chokes and strikes out like he ususally does in that situation, leaving a Man on, I'd take pujols

Have the Cards had a runner on 3rd yet this season?

 

[markakis8]

cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

that's not true. see our new 3rd baseman.

 

[TomMurry]

[quote="A_Pharis":38527u3e]

[quote="schmidtfan20":38527u3e]cmon all, don't lose focus. Pujols asked for all that money and was all pissy that the cards didn't lock him up
until the next century and now he is looking like crap.

cards fan can't be too happy.

might be time to hide the iphone Sam!

Kevin

Id still take Pujols having a slow start than Howard striking out 100+ times a year

If you are on 1st base and Pujols hits it to the shortstop you might think otherwise.

Thing is.. ANYONE can hit into a Double play. ONLY Ryan Howard is going to be putting up that consistent number of strike outs.

While this is true, Pujols was 6th in the majors in GIDPs last season, 3rd in the NL. He was first in the NL in 2007. He is probably the greatest hitter we will see in this era, but he is not perfect.

Yeah, but this is comparing him to Howard... not everyone. I'd rather take a guy that hits into double plays than a guy who can't make contact. The only thing grounding into DPs that much says to me is that the guy before him is doing his job. The only difference between GIDP and a regular groundout? The rest of the team making contact, too.[/quote:38527u3e]
I understand completely, I respect a hitter that puts the ball in play. And that is why he GIDP quite often. Putting the ball in play is always better than striking out.[/quote:38527u3e]

+1
GIDP can still score a run. K'ing close to 200 times a year doesnt.

 

[George_Calfas]

Only thing missing in this thread is a "Yo Mamma"

 

[cgilmo]

Howard > Pujols 2011 version

Schmidtfan gets suspended every now and then.

Just takes a moderator, I don't pass out suspensions these days.

 

[George_Calfas]

Schmidtfan gets suspended every now and then.

Just takes a moderator, I don't pass out suspensions these days.

You big softee