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Been watching this auction and there are only two bids, but what gives with the price?

huh?

It clearly says "auto grade only" on the flip. Maybe if the card itself was a PSA 10, the price could be justified? But the grade is only for the auto, just as BGS has an auto grade that is separate from the card grade. It also isn't a buyback, which could have justified the price.
Is the seller misleading (intentionally or not) in his description and this is the cause of the high bids?

I just don't see why this card should be selling for over $1k.
 

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I had no idea that PSA graded autos.

I personally can't read what it says on the back and everything in the description and the slab would assume the card itself is a PSA 10 and is a legitimate auto.

If that's the case, this is one of the best cards of the 80's and 90's of one of the greatest players in Pristine condition and auto'd.

EDIT: Just noticed the "Auto Grade Only" on the front of the slab (when you said "flip" I assumed you meant back). On that, I didn't even notice that upon first glance, so many buyers may not too. Now regardless, I still didn't know PSA graded autos.
 

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yea, i saw that a few days ago....plain stupididity on bidder...and seller too..if i were the seller I would end the auction before the bidder realized his mistake. :lol:
 

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Sly said:
Now regardless, I still didn't know PSA graded autos.

Here.

And sorry for the slang confusion. I thought "flip" was understood universally as the grading label. But maybe it's just on other boards.
 

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You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.
 

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Warren's All Stars said:
You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.


Not to be argumentative, but I see about 1-2 a week.

One guy has 2 for $299/bo each, and they've been up for days. Someone ought to jump on one of these then.
 

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Warren's All Stars said:
You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.

Why doesn't he sign it?
 

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jrinne said:
Warren's All Stars said:
You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.

Why doesn't he sign it?

I have to admit I can't recall ever hearing this before, either.
 

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Jeff D said:
jrinne said:
[quote="Warren's All Stars":11swg9uz]You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.

Why doesn't he sign it?

I have to admit I can't recall ever hearing this before, either.[/quote:11swg9uz]


Me niether... And I have seen quite a few over the years.

Can you provide any kind of substance to this besides heresay?
 

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matfanofold - Hey, your item is described as PSA GEM MINT 10, but nowhere in the description do you mention that it's just the auto grade as it is printed on the psa holder. Also, how is this at all rare? There are several hundred, perhaps thousands of 10 auto grades out there for Griffey. Anyway, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that it's just an oversight on your part and not a ploy to 'trick' potential buyers in to buying a PSA 10 card when it's an ungraded card with a 10 'auto only' grade.

Have a nice day!


cardboardtrader - Do you receive the SMR report? In the report you will see that there is in fact not any PSA 10 certified signatures at the most recent release of population numbers.


matfanofold - Infact, I do. However you still seem to be a bit confused. You are listing the card as, and I quote..

"1989 Upper Deck KEN GRIFFEY JR - PSA GEM MINT 10 w/AUTO"

And that is incorrect. it's an ungraded card with a 10 auto, there is a HUGH difference in meaning and price. Again, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are not doing this purposly, but it's an error that may turn out to be a negative one in your future.

Thanks.
 

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Good effort matfanofold, and it will be interesting to see if he responds to you again.

I also like to give people the benefit of the doubt, but how you can miss the all caps AUTO GRADE ONLY line is a little curious.
What else does someone think that could mean?

Obviously the bidders should catch that too, but with all the fluff in the listing, that detail could have been overlooked.

My confusion with this is also in that a PSA 10 1989 UD Griffey only sells for around $200. Even if the card were graded a 10, is his auto on that card worth $800+ more?
 

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Description says an autographed PSA 10 card. That implies it is a PSA 10 that is auto'd, which it clearly isn't. I would bet the buyer would win a claim
 

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What is the fascination with this card? Its not that great looking. The design is ok at best.
You can't see his auto. There is probably enough of those the wrap around the Earth probably 6 times.
I am selling a 20 cards right now that are a 1000 times tougher and I can't get 1.00 for them :?
 

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matfanofold said:
Jeff D said:
jrinne said:
[quote="Warren's All Stars":18s6tyby]You guys are forgetting something - Griffey does not sign that card. There can't be but a scant few signed UD rc's with authentic signatures.

Why doesn't he sign it?

I have to admit I can't recall ever hearing this before, either.


Me niether... And I have seen quite a few over the years.

Can you provide any kind of substance to this besides heresay?[/quote:18s6tyby]

Absolutely.

I am an UD Authenticated direct dealer. Occasionally UD runs a program where collectors can send thier items in to have the UD spokesmen (Griffey, Tiger, Jordan, Kobe etc) sign them (for a high fee of course). When I inquired I was told that Griffey would not sign any of his rookie cards under any circumstances.

I have no idea how long this policy has been in effect, but I suspect the signed UD Griffey's on the market were all signed before this policy was implimented.
 

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I can tell you that one in auction is from 94 or 95 the latest. I believe he stopped underling
Griffey with the Y somewhere around then.
 

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All Griffeys period sell for too much! He has not been good in 10 years, yet he seems to be as popularity as ever? That is my HUH?
 

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Huh? Mickey Mantle has been dead for 15 years and he is as popular as ever? Whats your point
with following Griffey related threads and saying that every time. We get it you don't like him.
 

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bodiaz said:
All Griffeys period sell for too much! He has not been good in 10 years, yet he seems to be as popularity as ever? That is my HUH?

I truly hope this is sarcasm.
 

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Jack Straw said:
What is the fascination with this card? Its not that great looking. The design is ok at best.
You can't see his auto. There is probably enough of those the wrap around the Earth probably 6 times.
I am selling a 20 cards right now that are a 1000 times tougher and I can't get 1.00 for them :?

It is THE card of the 80's. Yes other cards are pricier and rarer but this card helped mold what the Hobby is today.

This card changed the way companies did business and the way cards were made.

This card propelled pack prices higher and higher every year as every card became premium quality.

This card was THE card to have for the 90's decade into the early 2000's and is still Iconic today. It also helped that it is the first card in the first Hobby accepted premium product.

The fact that Griffey was a bigger fan favorite than Pujols is today also made this card what it is today.

On top of that, the boom value of the card both raw and graded happened at the same time which fueled the graded card market.
 

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