I cant believe I won this...at this price...new centerpiece!

[HoustonTeams4Me]

If you are happy that is all that matters, but a few things Ill add. Yes he is a juicer, and will always be remembered
by this generation as someone who lied and cheated. Second why picture him with a bat?

Needless to say nice pick up, would of been more of a steal a few years ago.

Kevin

Not to throw-off the thread but did Clemens admit his guilt or test positive for steroids (as I never heard either of those confirmed)? The supposed air-tight proof (used syringe with Clemens blood & roid's in it & some bloody gauze) was provided by a black-mailing trainer who had access to used syringe's from Clemens playing days & he had access to steroid's also....where is it to say that anyone can be 100% sure without a reasonable doubt that McNamee/the trainer (who was down on his luck, getting divorced, & in financial ruins) wasn't lying???
There are way too many holes to this accusation but the media got ahold of it & ran with it. Roger Clemens, who is the overpaid superstar phenom with a tough unapologetic attitude, was immediately labelled the "badguy" who must be taken down a notch (so McNamee must be telling the truth & Clemens is automatically guilty before the scenario could even fully play out)! Is there any chance that McNamee saved those syringe's & blood for any hidden agenda (probably not, as most trainer's around the world save these things as memorabilia & keep-sake's to show thier grandchildren :? )?
I suppose there is no chance that McNamee could have taken one of Roger's used syringe's from a dose of any number of legal injection possibilities (from pain-killer's to supplement's, etc) that he saved from the past & filled it with a little bit of an illegal steroid substance??? There are so many things that could have occurred which is why this wasn't an "open & shut" case, McNamee's initial saving of these materials shows intent to blackmail Clemens at a future date... Whatever occurred to trigger McNamee to come forth could have been anything from: 1. McNamee being implicated in the steroid ring by authorities & him using his story about Roger as a bargaining chip to save his own arse, to 2. McNamee hitting rock bottom after his wife left him & being in financial ruin's so he decides to make a quick buck with this juicy fairy-tale (I wonder how much he's made by selling his story to the media outlet's? I'm certain, if there isn't already, that we're gonna see McNamee's headshot on the cover of a book titled something along the line's of:
Roger & "Mee" :lol: )...

Anyhow I'll stop here as this story has been regurjitated so many times on this board & throughout the media that it doesn't resemble the initial story! Sorry for the novel but I was just sharing a point of view that is never expressed here on the board's (the media's influence has a strong grip) but I thought I'd reply to the above statement: "Yes he is a juicer" because I wanted to see if there was new information or actual proof that shows Clemens was indeed a juicer (because last I heard it was all circumstantial & accusatory)...


GREAT CARD bro, don't let the hater's make you doubt that!

 

[matchpenalty]

I'm fairly certain, at one time, this sold for a $1250 BIN on Ebay. I put a $350 snipe almost as a "joke" type bid. Nevertheless, I guess this is the centerpiece of my collection, and my biggest purchase of all time. I would love to go the route of other members and get it signed IP. This is my first logoman, and my second Clemens/Oswalt dual.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... SA:US:1123

Very nice card indeed. But why does he say get it signed IP? It already is autographed. I don't understand. Does he want them to inscribe something on it? Again, sweet card at that price no doubt.

~AJ

Someone removed the stickers and got an on-card auto. It was the Mauer.

Yeah I saw that one on Ebay recently. It was Mauer and Nathan. Nathan ruins that card. Not sure what it sold for, but stickers were peeled off. Plus you could damage card doing that. I wouldn't do it. Plus you would have to put more $ and time to try and get them to sign it. Who knows maybe new autos look like crap. I'd leave it.