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jrinne said:
I thought the seller couldn't leave a negative?

He can't. The seller will file an NPB, and the buyer will leave a negative...

...on that, feedback is only removed I believe if the buyer doesn't respond to the NPB.
 

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Here email him this

black·mail (blkml)
n.
1.
a. Extortion of money or something else of value from a person by the threat of exposing a criminal act or discreditable information.
b. Something of value extorted in this manner.
 

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Sly said:
jrinne said:
I thought the seller couldn't leave a negative?

He can't. The seller will file an NPB, and the buyer will leave a negative...

...on that, feedback is only removed I believe if the buyer doesn't respond to the NPB.
What if he responds and says he refuses to pay and makes up some ****** excuse that the seller is racist because of "blackmail." Then what?
 

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jbone17 said:
Found out where this bastard lives and take a number 2 on his porch. That will fix this loser.

Sounds like somewhere in Boston (assuming the beacon hill reference is the one in Boston). That's just an hour drive Matt.
 

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trademhigh said:
Sly said:
jrinne said:
I thought the seller couldn't leave a negative?

He can't. The seller will file an NPB, and the buyer will leave a negative...

...on that, feedback is only removed I believe if the buyer doesn't respond to the NPB.
What if he responds and says he refuses to pay and makes up some shatty excuse that the seller is racist because of "blackmail." Then what?

That's my point...it was actually directed at a few others who said that feedback would be removed if an NPB was filed.

Point was, feedback probably WON'T be removed.

On that, boomo can email the messages from the buyer to ebay and see if they'll do anything about it (suspend the account)...but I doubt it.
 

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Just forward his responses to eBay, file the NPB, and just relist it.
 

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That guy sounds like a complete moron. Some people need to just jump infront of a speeding bullet.
 

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Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.
 

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boomo said:
i send this:

oh the ol blackmail routine.
very classy. just exactly how do you make a bid and then not try
and correct it long before auction ends? this is a binding deal steve,
you cant just decide you dont want something you bid on, and then use blackmail.
im being a dick? your bid was 18 hours before that auction ended.
when you somehow make this amazing mistake, you just dont say, sorry i dont want it, cus i bid to much 18 hours ago,
you ask nicely at that time. having my feedback record does me just fine. more satisfying for me to give a strike.
now if you had offered to cover the fees and been a little more reasonable about how you overbid 18 hours ago
and waited til auction ended to tell me this, im sure we could have worked something out.


he sends this:

listen tard, i told your ******* that i tried to retract my bid.
now, why does it have to be a RACE issue?
are u seroius , i am not goin to put up wit ur racial comments, and
I tried to correct my mistake .. 18 HOURS Ago
are u really that lame?? do what u need too,maybe try sum whitemail hick.
your error.


someone please tell me where i was being racist, lmao.

Because he thinks you called him a BLACK MALE hahaha unbelievable.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...
 

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sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

Negatives on eBay are like single moms. At first it's shocking because it doesn't happen very often, but after awhile, it becomes commonplace and people move on with their lives.
 

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Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.
 

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Philip J. Fry said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

Negatives on eBay are like single moms. At first it's shocking because it doesn't happen very often, but after awhile, it becomes commonplace and people move on with their lives.

L :lol: L
 

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sportscardtheory said:
Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.

I have to agree here. You should have mutually agreed to not complete the transaction, got your FVF's back, relisted the card, and hoped that you got more than the first time. To me, sounds like both buyer and seller are in a pissing match here that neither wants to back down from. Sorry situation!!!
 

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Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.

But the fact is that this buyer obviously had NO intentions of buying the card. He bid 18 hours before the auction ended and had PLENTY of time to retract his bid.

Mutually agreeing to not complete the transaction is what allows tools like this to stay on ebay and continue to do this to other sellers. It's a waste of time for sellers, it could mean a loss of money for a seller (what happens if Uggla - or whoever it was - blows out his knee tomorrow?) These are the types of buyers who need to be removed from ebay...and filing NPB's against them is the only way to do that.
 

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Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.

But the fact is that this buyer obviously had NO intentions of buying the card. He bid 18 hours before the auction ended and had PLENTY of time to retract his bid.

Mutually agreeing to not complete the transaction is what allows tools like this to stay on ebay and continue to do this to other sellers. It's a waste of time for sellers, it could mean a loss of money for a seller (what happens if Uggla - or whoever it was - blows out his knee tomorrow?) These are the types of buyers who need to be removed from ebay...and filing NPB's against them is the only way to do that.

I agree. The seller is 100% in the right here.
 

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Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.

But the fact is that this buyer obviously had NO intentions of buying the card. He bid 18 hours before the auction ended and had PLENTY of time to retract his bid.

Mutually agreeing to not complete the transaction is what allows tools like this to stay on ebay and continue to do this to other sellers. It's a waste of time for sellers, it could mean a loss of money for a seller (what happens if Uggla - or whoever it was - blows out his knee tomorrow?) These are the types of buyers who need to be removed from ebay...and filing NPB's against them is the only way to do that.

I guess if you are more worried about what other people do and not about your own account, this is the correct way to look at it. I sell for myself, not to clean up eBay.
 

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sportscardtheory said:
Sly said:
sportscardtheory said:
Wow. There are some terrible sellers out there. First of all, you yourself stated that the price you got was low, so why not accept not completing the transaction, get your fees back and try for a better price? And setting yourself up for a negative... I hope it is worth it. I know I would rather work with him and NOT get a negative. I guess that's just me.

So a terrible seller is holding a buyer to a price he won a card at, even though the seller feels it was low??? Hmmmm...seems like a pretty honest buyer where he's willing to sell the card lower than he wanted to, because he's sticking to his end of the deal...

Customer service. The first thing I tell that guy after his message is "No problem. We will mutually agree to not complete the transaction so I get my fees back." Not, "You are an idiot and a liar and I will hold you to your end of the deal and take a negative!!!" There are two kinds of sellers, people who sell and treat it like a business, and others who sell and don't give a crap.

theory, how about you take a look at my feedback, ask my 5-6 regular weekly buyers if they enjoy all the freebies they get from me, and then make this statement. i dont give a crap? you sir, are officially out of your mind. this is principle, not be nice to every moron cus mommy caught them on the computer. i dont know what ill do, but i know after 5 years without a neg and 13000 positives, i dont much care about one neg to prove a point. pretty low blow telling me i dont give a crap. way to stick up for the board member.
 

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