If Alex Rodriguez is banned from baseball, what will happen to his card values?

[Ghumbs]

With the possibility of A-Rod being banned from baseball, I got to thinking, what will happen to his cards?

Black Sox and Pete Rose cards seem to have increased due in part to the ban, but is A-Rod a different beast? Too *******?

 

[petMonster]

Well, the Black Sox had Shoeless Joe, one of the most beloved figures of that era, and Pete Rose is by far and away the all time hit king and he played the game with so much fire in his belly, so I can see why their cards hold value. I think it's hard to tell long term on Arod, but at least in the short term, I think he'll follow Bonds. Bonds' stuff took a huge dive and hasn't fully recovered yet. The only reason some of his stuff still does well is because he's a central figure to some of that rare 90's insert glory, and that stuff will always be in demand. McGwire seems to have recovered better than Bonds, but keep in mind that McGwire has been more liked than Bonds and Arod during his career. Arod will always hold some value I think, but only because he has some nice cards and has been one of the more central baseball figures over the last decade.

 

[MansGame]

Free fall


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[Brewer Andy]

Black Sox and Pete Rose cards seem to have increased due in part to the ban, but is A-Rod a different beast? Too *******?

Way different beasts!

Jackson has that "mystique" about him, the historical significance and the "did he or didn't he" not play all out during the series. No one but Joe will ever know, and he ain't around

Pete- people look more at his playing career. The gambling is more forgiven unless it is ever proved he bet AGAINST his own team.

I agree, I'd look more towards Bonds as an example. Historically significanct ****** nozzle that was a GREAT player regardless of roids, and just as great at being hated

 

[uniquebaseballcards]

Sure, there will be at least some noticeable decrease. Of course there will be those sellers who will still try to not lose money on their 'investments' by posting BINs/BOs.

People forget that Bonds was essentially banned from baseball as well.

 

[hive17]

I say decrease, but only slightly. I think they've taken the lumps they are going to take. Does MLB banning him really change anything abotu the general consensus of the man/player? The decrease will come from the large contingent of Yankee fans who will simply stop buying, thus lowering demand. MLB won't cotton to Topps putting out any more cards of a banned player either, so supply will basically stop.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I don't think his prices could get much lower than they already are. I have a premium rookie card stash that I was holding for many years that's worth about a quarter of what it used to be, if not less. Some of his decent rookie stuff that used to get $30 and $50 now get a few dollars. It's sad.

 

[JEA2880]

I don't think his prices could get much lower than they already are. I have a premium rookie card stash that I was holding for many years that's worth about a quarter of what it used to be, if not less. Some of his decent rookie stuff that used to get $30 and $50 now get a few dollars. It's sad.

Same here. Don't forget about the scarcity of the others versus the millions and millions of Arod cards that are available nowadays. There won't be any demand and there's plenty of availability which will definitely decrease prices.

 

[corockies]

wtb a 1994 Sportflics AP Arod and a 1994 Collectors Choice Gold Sig Arod for a couple bucks each. If you want to throw in a '94 SP Holoview Red Arod for another $5 I'll take that too.

 

[sportscardtheory]

wtb a 1994 Sportflics AP Arod and a 1994 Collectors Choice Gold Sig Arod for a couple bucks each. If you want to throw in a '94 SP Holoview Red Arod for another $5 I'll take that too.

I didn't realize those were $30-$50 cards when he was in his hobby prime.

Who wouldn't buy those at those prices. Even commons from those sets get around that.

 

[predatorkj]

I think it falls simply because you have those types of people who won't collect him if he gets banned. Hell, you've got some who will stop collecting once a player is outed on drug charges. All the crap that happens with a professional athlete in their lives, especially with how big the media makes it now days, and practically every single player has some dirty laundry. Every day as a collector, if you collect based on anything other than how good the guy plays, you're already walking on egg shells because at any moment he could be the next headline for whatever. Trying to collect a guy because he generally seems like a good guy can lead to failure. The best thing to do if you collect any player is to just come to the reality that at some point in time, the guy may do something you don't like or agree with. If that would stop you from collecting him, you might not want to bother. These days anything can happen and like I said, with the media like it is, even the smallest of things gets way out of proportion. Like if A-Rod cheated on his spouse or got a dwi or got busted shoplifting, the fact that I would even be able to know about that means I already know way more than I need to know about the guy's personal life. I collect cards of athletes. Not cards of guys who haven't had a ticket in the last year, have a credit rating of over 700, get a haircut once a month, don't drink or use tobacco, go to church on Sunday's, eat a healthy diet, don't cuss, don't abuse drugs, etc. etc.. You're collecting cards of a living human being that can and will make the same mistakes any of us can and also who has the means to make even bigger mistakes and them to be reported heavily. I really wish people would keep that in mind.

 

[corockies]

I didn't realize those were $30-$50 cards when he was in his hobby prime.

Who wouldn't buy those at those prices. Even commons from those sets get around that.

Was being facetious when I posted that - the AP and the Gold Sig are the only cards I need to have one of every card of his from 1994. Haven't looked for either in years. The AP used to go for $1K+.

 

[Ghumbs]

Good feedback, guys. I see the comparison a few of you have made with Bonds, but the biggest difference, in my opinion, is that neither Bonds nor Clemens, has actually been banned. If you look at the list of players who have permanent bans on them, it's a very small list. In my mind, this list generates intrigue as there are stories involved with all of these players who sullied the name of baseball.

I also wonder if, down the road, the story will be told with A-Rod as the victim. We see it with Rose and with all 8 of the Black Sox (not just Jackson). Look at the card values of any of the players involved with the scandal. There's a premium attached because they cheated.

I'm not making the case that A-rod's cards will increase in value (though I think they may), but since he already admitted to cheating a few years back, I'd be surprised to see them decrease as time goes on.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Was being facetious when I posted that - the AP and the Gold Sig are the only cards I need to have one of every card of his from 1994. Haven't looked for either in years. The AP used to go for $1K+.

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, those cards used to get insane prices. They still get hundreds, but nowhere near past prices. The Score September Call-Up card used to be a good one too.

 

[nosterbor]

If he gets a life time ban you will not have to worry about his cards taking a huge hit. All of baseball will. Has he failed a test? Seems like a witch hunt to me. How about a scarlet number on their jersey. I have not watched a game this year. Just sick of all the bull s hit. A lot of people I know feel the same way. All the way back in all professional sports there were cheats, and a lot of them. So what did the players in the 30's 40's 50's and 60's use? Remember, in the 30's there were no jet rides to go from NY to St Louis, Bus or train. Very few hotels with air mostly all day games. So what did they use to get up for a game, thing about it. I am tired of the older "holier than thou" players from those era's.

P.S.
Bud Selig knew what going on in the 90's so did the owners. The did NOTHING! Ban them also. If they say they had no clue they are full of s hit. Not until that can of andro supplement from GNC showed up in McGwire's locker during a live interview did anyone say anything. OOPS the cats out of the bag. They are all jack offs for letting it go on for sooooo long.

 

[sportscardtheory]

If he gets a life time ban you will not have to worry about his cards taking a huge hit. All of baseball will. Has he failed a test? Seems like a witch hunt to me. How about a scarlet number on their jersey. I have not watched a game this year. Just sick of all the bull s hit. A lot of people I know feel the same way. All the way back in all professional sports there were cheats, and a lot of them. So what did the players in the 30's 40's 50's and 60's use? Remember, in the 30's there were no jet rides to go from NY to St Louis, Bus or train. Very few hotels with air mostly all day games. So what did they use to get up for a game, thing about it. I am tired of the older "holier than thou" players from those era's.

P.S.
Bud Selig knew what going on in the 90's so did the owners. The did NOTHING! Ban them also. If they say they had no clue they are full of s hit. Not until that can of andro supplement from GNC showed up in McGwire's locker during a live interview did anyone say anything. OOPS the cats out of the bag. They are all jack offs for letting it go on for sooooo long.

You are just butt-hurt that Juan Gonzalez is lumped in with all the cheaters. What you are experiencing is called cognitive dissonance.

 

[nosterbor]

You are just butt-hurt that Juan Gonzalez is lumped in with all the cheaters. What you are experiencing is called cognitive dissonance.

Not at all, I could card less! As for Juan, remember in 03 he was having a great year and ripped his hammy? What did Hicks do? Read this
Hicks: Gonzalez's injuries and early retirement suspicious - MLB - ESPN

Isn't it funny Griffey JR had the same type injury, guess he was doing P.E.D's also

 

[sportscardtheory]

Not at all, I could card less! As for Juan, remember in 03 he was having a great year and ripped his hammy? What did Hicks do? Read this
Hicks: Gonzalez's injuries and early retirement suspicious - MLB - ESPN

Isn't it funny Griffey JR had the same type injury, guess he was doing P.E.D's also

Igor's major link to PEDs is the fact that his personal trainer/nutritionist was caught with PEDs in his bag on a flight while traveling with Gonzalez. That and Canseco outed him along with Pudge Rodriguez. Gonzalez was my favorite player during my childhood, but I'm certainly not going to give him a pass for being a cheat.

 

[nosterbor]

Igor's major link to PEDs is the fact that his personal trainer/nutritionist was caught with PEDs in his bag on a flight while traveling with Gonzalez. That and Canseco outed him along with Pudge Rodriguez. Gonzalez was my favorite player during my childhood, but I'm certainly not going to give him a pass for being a cheat.

Like the saying goes "He said she said" And as you say "he said" : "Igor's major link to PEDs is the fact" And just what MAJOR facts are those? If someone is taking YOUR bag into and AirPort and they get nailed with it being full of cocaine then it's YOUR coke right. Hummm. By the way his trainer/nutritionist Angel Presinal was banned for the same thing when Juan was done playing. It must have been Juan's left overs form 6 years earlier, yes that's it. The Yankees band him from their club house in 2007.

 

[sportscardtheory]

By the way his trainer/nutritionist Angel Presinal was banned for the same thing when Juan was done playing. It must have been Juan's left overs form 6 years earlier, yes that's it.

And somehow you think that INVALIDATES the fact that Juan used PEDs? lol I think you have that backwards.