IMPORTANT.... METAL CARDS POLL

[ru4scuba]

thepit.com has been dead to me since Topps dumped it so I voted for eBay. My only concern is that in an eBay auction one person is going to be able to come in and swipe all the cards of a given player at once. During a dutch auction, can you limit the number of cards a person can buy at a time?

lets say wossa offered bid $10 each on all 50 blue poseys....
and you bid $50 for one.... you would get your 1 at $50 and he'd get the rest at $10...

This is MUCH more fair way to distribute than pit.com with no controls... BG

It's been a while since I bid on a dutch auction, but now I remember it being this way. My vote for eBay stands.

 

[Jaypers]

I'd vote for none of the above -- put HALF of the entire print run on eBay, and the other half on the Pit, for all sets (base, base parallels, auto, auto parallels).

More exposure this way.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

to clairy....

iF ON EBAY ONLY...

All parallels would be sold by dutch auction... for example, there are 50 blue base of each player... They would be put in one ebay auction for $7.50 minimum bid lets say.... The bidders for the top 50 cards total would win the cards at whatever the 50th card was bid at, so you could bid $50 on a card but if the 50th one sold at $15, all 50 cards are won at $15...

All base would be put up with fixed price.... we would make up to maximum quantity produced available and whatever sold with 30 days would be final production.. no further cards released....

does this make sense????

Based on this explanation, I chose the lesser of two evils [the Pit].

On the pit.com, one guy can buy all 50 instantly and its over... how is this better????? At least on ebay, you can outbid a quantitiy buyer...

It's quite simple.

You do exactly what etopps did -- create an allocation system, to ensure that they never was able to happen. You have from Monday of that week until Saturday night to place your order. You get an email stating how many you were allocated.

Not only did it help multiple buyers get cards they ordered, but it also set up the secondary market fairly well.

pit.com DOES NOT have this

Well, can they make it happen for you? Have you talked to them about it?

I don't know if you recall our phone conversation a while back about this, but I stated that there were two easy options to make this fair for consumers and best for the market.

1. Insert into letterman packs/boxes scratch-off redemptions to enter at the pit for (1) random pit uncirculated card (Topps did this a little while back).

2. Allocation system like Etopps does theirs. It ensures the cards get spread out among consumers, rather than one person buying all.

Personally, I don't care how you do the base metal cards and parallels. I am much more concerned with the autos, how they are #'d, what they look like, and how they will hurt the consumers holding your first product autos (which will have the same design).

 

[boxbreaker]

why the pit? why not collector revolution?

 

[kentuckyderby]

None of the above

Take 2 months off, fly to Dominican Republic with Jose Rijo, grab a cool drink by the pool, watch baseball, and release 2009 Metal Razor in November
(don't waste time with sketch, ebay stores, thepit, etc)

Rejoice Rejoice Rejoice

 

[Brett Keith]

All I know is that even though I've been signed up for The Pit for a long time, I've never used it other than with some Bowman redemption cards. So whatever ones are sold on The Pit, probably won't be bought by me.

 

[Leaf]

Thanks for all the feedback... this plus aboput 20 calls in the last hour have cemented which approach we will be using... we will advise publicly soon.. BG

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

As I've stated several times before, market these as a 2009 product (that is the ONLY change you'll need to make everyone happy...well not everyone, but you'd keep Sig. Series valuable & you would still sell out on these as they are the "B.Chrome" version of Razor)! Give it some thought, you'll still make out like a bandit & you won't hurt as many people's feeling's by destroying thier card's worth ie. Sig. Series stashes!

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I thought the Razor Forum was created because you didn't want to talk to the rest of the board?

 

[Jaypers]

I thought the Razor Forum was created because you didn't want to talk to the rest of the board?

No, he said he would only post on the Baseball board for announcements and would answer questions on the Razor boards.

Obviously it makes more sense to start a poll here, since there are many more posters to vote on their preference.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

What I don't understand is why this is even up for debate at this point?

Was anything ever in place with thePit.com or was it just an idea with nothing tangible in place?

This is just weird.

For the last couple months we've all been expecting these on thePit, and now when they were initially supposed to release, the release method is up for debate?

Brian...you can't be everything to everybody, but you can at least have a direction to stick with.

 

[ru4scuba]

I thought the Razor Forum was created because you didn't want to talk to the rest of the board?

No, he said he would only post on the Baseball board for announcements and would answer questions on the Razor boards.

Obviously it makes more sense to start a poll here, since there are many more posters to vote on their preference.

Really? It seems like everyone is over there too including the "bad seeds."

 

[Wes]

thepit.com has been dead to me since Topps dumped it so I voted for eBay. My only concern is that in an eBay auction one person is going to be able to come in and swipe all the cards of a given player at once. During a dutch auction, can you limit the number of cards a person can buy at a time?

lets say wossa offered bid $10 each on all 50 blue poseys....
and you bid $50 for one.... you would get your 1 at $50 and he'd get the rest at $10...

This is MUCH more fair way to distribute than pit.com with no controls... BG

This contradicts what you said earlier about the 50th card being the price for all 50. How is it fair that one would pay $50 for one and the rest would be sold for $490 to someone else?

 

[matfanofold]

Why not put them all out there dutch and let the chips fall where they may? If not, midas well let the pit handle things.

 

[Guest]

I won't be buying any, but I say on the Pit.

 

[Wes]

I really think some people will buy them all if put on ebay - I did vote for ebay though.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

let's just say you sell me the cowgill's straight up for $1 a piece. That would be thrilling!

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

thepit.com has been dead to me since Topps dumped it so I voted for eBay. My only concern is that in an eBay auction one person is going to be able to come in and swipe all the cards of a given player at once. During a dutch auction, can you limit the number of cards a person can buy at a time?

lets say wossa offered bid $10 each on all 50 blue poseys....
and you bid $50 for one.... you would get your 1 at $50 and he'd get the rest at $10...

This is MUCH more fair way to distribute than pit.com with no controls... BG

This contradicts what you said earlier about the 50th card being the price for all 50. How is it fair that one would pay $50 for one and the rest would be sold for $490 to someone else?

Brian doesn't understand how "Dutch Auctions" work and therefore he should probably stop talking about them.

 

[briguy0216]

Seems like a greedy move by razor while hurting those who bought early. Make it 2009 or insert it like NEC said.

 

[mredsox89]

just make them an FCB exclusive

Or insert them in a product either on their own or as inserts/bonuses. Maybe like a parallel per box of Letterman or something