In need of some fantasy advice...

[soccerman034]

I understand that, but shouldn't they throw the ball more this year as they actually have several good wide outs? Yes, there are few less guys in the box, but Rice will get inherently less attempts if they throw more, and with the way he is running this year, he needs all the touches he can get to rack up value ::facepalm::

You have to keep in mind that Rice was my #1 pick (auto draft). I WANT to keep him/start him, but he has been giving me very little value from a RB slot so far.

 

[TonyButlerStopSuckin]

Rice has played the Jets and the Bengals, two of the best defenses in the NFL. While I like Snelling its a little much to say you think you will get more out of him and his 10 carries than you will out of Rice getting 25 touches. Its not like Snelling will steal goal line carries either. 2 games against great defenses is not enough to gauge how one of the best RBs will do for the rest of the year.

Normally I would play Freeman over a RB or WR because I'm assuming QBs get a lot more points that other positions but not this week. If the Bucs score more than 13 points I will be extremely happy.

 

[soccerman034]

I would just hate to waste another week starting Ray Rice, and have him produce another 50 yard game with no TD. I have a stable full of RB (Tim Hightower or Clinton Portis could start instead of Snelling).

The Thomas thing is noted, I had him in Freeman's utility spot, but again, he hasn't been GREAT this year, and Freeman has been. Matt Ryan and Matt Hasselback will give you 20-30 points a week easy, so its not like i want to replace either of them. I could move Darren McFadden to RB over Snelling, start Thomas at utility, and bench Snelling? I guess that would be the move to make if I didn't want to start rice?

Rice plays CLEVELAND this week, they're not all that great against the run.

Freeman plays the Steelers this week, he won't be getting many points.

Clevland has allowed 17 points and then 16 points in consecutive weeks. During those games, no RB rushed for more than 85 yards, and no RB has yet to score a TD on them.

Point?

Freeman may have a tough day against the Steelers, and due to the fact they are my starting defense, maybe I should mix of that last slot.

Kansas City has a RBBC, so add Jones and Charles together and there's 132 yards on 33 carries last week. Week one Cleveland played Tampa Bay, Caddy Williams isn't exactly a good measuring stick to use.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Rice has carried 21 times and 16 times in consecutive weeks, and whose to say that number will rise over the course of a season (as I said, more WR). By that logic, Rice should have a game like Thomas Jones did last week, which was last luster at best.

 

[mstng99tim]

I would just hate to waste another week starting Ray Rice, and have him produce another 50 yard game with no TD. I have a stable full of RB (Tim Hightower or Clinton Portis could start instead of Snelling).

The Thomas thing is noted, I had him in Freeman's utility spot, but again, he hasn't been GREAT this year, and Freeman has been. Matt Ryan and Matt Hasselback will give you 20-30 points a week easy, so its not like i want to replace either of them. I could move Darren McFadden to RB over Snelling, start Thomas at utility, and bench Snelling? I guess that would be the move to make if I didn't want to start rice?

Rice plays CLEVELAND this week, they're not all that great against the run.

Freeman plays the Steelers this week, he won't be getting many points.

Clevland has allowed 17 points and then 16 points in consecutive weeks. During those games, no RB rushed for more than 85 yards, and no RB has yet to score a TD on them.

Point?

Freeman may have a tough day against the Steelers, and due to the fact they are my starting defense, maybe I should mix of that last slot.

Kansas City has a RBBC, so add Jones and Charles together and there's 132 yards on 33 carries last week. Week one Cleveland played Tampa Bay, Caddy Williams isn't exactly a good measuring stick to use.

Your argument doesn't make sense. Rice has carried 21 times and 16 times in consecutive weeks, and whose to say that number will rise over the course of a season (as I said, more WR). By that logic, Rice should have a game like Thomas Jones did last week, which was last luster at best.

Bench him then, I could care less.

 

[EricInCT]

::facepalm::

Adding WR threats only makes your running game all that much better, as the defense can't stack the box to help the run. Just because a team adds a few WR's to their team that are better than what they used to have doesn't mean they will pass every down, this isn't a video game. You have to run the ball to keep a somewhat balanced offense.

Here are the points:

1) Rice played 2 games last year against the browns and scored a TD in each game.
2) the Browns leading rusher has 85 yards on 25 rushes and no TDs.
3) The Ravens have not given up a TD all year.
4) Browns will have to pass the ball.
5) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL at 100 yards per game allowed.
6) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL in total defense.
7) Ravens have played Jets and Cincy.
8) Browns have played KC and Tampa.
9) Browns Defense is giving up 130 a game on the ground. and is 22 in the nfl against the run.


Numbers don't lie......Ray Rice with 19-24 carries and at least 1 TD, possibly 2.

 

[soccerman034]

Here let me just ask specific questions:

1.) Who do I start out of these three QB (Freeman, Hasselback, Ryan)?

Freeman is up against the Steelers, Ryan is against the Saints, and Hasselback is against the Chargers. All good/great defenses.

2.) Does Eddie Royal or Calvin Johnson deserve a start this week over Roddy White or Hakeem Nicks?

3.) Jahvid Best is the only guy I am 100% starting at RB. Who do I start between: Clinton Portis, Tim Hightower, Rashard Mendenhall, Ray Rice, or Snelling?

4.) Is Brandon Pettigrew a half decent TE? He seems to be my one major weak spot. I tried to pick up Greg Olsen, but someone has a higher waiver priority, so i lost him.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Easiest solution since this season is already lost...bench your entire roster and move on to NHL Fantasy. And when Sidney Crosby, Ovechkin and Kane don't score in their first 5 games...trade them away.

 

[mstng99tim]

Easiest solution since this season is already lost...bench your entire roster and move on to NHL Fantasy. And when Sidney Crosby, Ovechkin and Kane don't score in their first 5 games...trade them away.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[soccerman034]

::facepalm::

Adding WR threats only makes your running game all that much better, as the defense can't stack the box to help the run. Just because a team adds a few WR's to their team that are better than what they used to have doesn't mean they will pass every down, this isn't a video game. You have to run the ball to keep a somewhat balanced offense.

Here are the points:

1) Rice played 2 games last year against the browns and scored a TD in each game. (I think the Browns defense has significantly improved from last year.)
2) the Browns leading rusher has 85 yards on 25 rushes and no TDs. (What does this have to do with Rice?)
3) The Ravens have not given up a TD all year. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
4) Browns will have to pass the ball. (Jerome Harrison will get 15-20 carries.)
5) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL at 100 yards per game allowed. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
6) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL in total defense. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
7) Ravens have played Jets and Cincy. (Two overrated defences IMO. Both got exposed in game number 1. The Jets could be the real deal, but I have my doubts about the Bengals.)
8) Browns have played KC and Tampa. (Both have good/great defenses.)
9) Browns Defense is giving up 130 a game on the ground. and is 22 in the nfl against the run. (Pretty bad, but still no running TD's or 100 yard rushers.)


Numbers don't lie......Ray Rice with 19-24 carries and at least 1 TD, possibly 2.

 

[soccerman034]

Easiest solution since this season is already lost...bench your entire roster and move on to NHL Fantasy. And when Sidney Crosby, Ovechkin and Kane don't score in their first 5 games...trade them away.

So when I ask a honest question, I get a smart ass response. Figures.

The poster I responded to with the "Ray Rice may have already lost my season", used hyperbole in his initial post as well, I was merely returning the favor. My fantasy season is far from done. I am 20 points back of the leader currently. But the league is very close, and continuing to start Ray Rice despite his troubles has hurt me. The only thing that really save me this past week was Best's monster game, and Ryan's.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Easiest solution since this season is already lost...bench your entire roster and move on to NHL Fantasy. And when Sidney Crosby, Ovechkin and Kane don't score in their first 5 games...trade them away.

So when I ask a honest question, I get a smart ass response. Figures.

The poster I responded to with the "Ray Rice may have already lost my season", used hyperbole in his initial post as well, I was merely returning the favor. My fantasy season is far from done. I am 20 points back of the leader currently.

Jon...first off it's me, so obviously there is going to be a bit of smart ass in anything I say. Second, by not playing Rice and being willing to trade him away after 2 games is really no different than trading away Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin or Patrick Kane after 5 games.

 

[soccerman034]

Woah, I didn't even realize it was you! Seriously, i was just looking at your avatar and signature! Ha, sorry for the bad tone, I guess i will give Rice one more week.

 

[Viking4Alpha]

Easiest solution since this season is already lost...bench your entire roster and move on to NHL Fantasy. And when Sidney Crosby, Ovechkin and Kane don't score in their first 5 games...trade them away.

So when I ask a honest question, I get a smart ass response. Figures.

The poster I responded to with the "Ray Rice may have already lost my season", used hyperbole in his initial post as well, I was merely returning the favor. My fantasy season is far from done. I am 20 points back of the leader currently.

Jon...first off it's me, so obviously there is going to be a bit of smart ass in anything I say. Second, by not playing Rice and being willing to trade him away after 2 games is really no different than trading away Sidney Crosby, Alex Ovechkin or Patrick Kane after 5 games.

Exactly.

I don't much see the sense in asking advice when all you're going to do is dismiss it in favor of your own. Why ask for help at all?

 

[EricInCT]

::facepalm::

Adding WR threats only makes your running game all that much better, as the defense can't stack the box to help the run. Just because a team adds a few WR's to their team that are better than what they used to have doesn't mean they will pass every down, this isn't a video game. You have to run the ball to keep a somewhat balanced offense.

Here are the points:

1) Rice played 2 games last year against the browns and scored a TD in each game. (I think the Browns defense has significantly improved from last year.)
2) the Browns leading rusher has 85 yards on 25 rushes and no TDs. (What does this have to do with Rice?)
3) The Ravens have not given up a TD all year. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
4) Browns will have to pass the ball. (Jerome Harrison will get 15-20 carries.)
5) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL at 100 yards per game allowed. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
6) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL in total defense. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
7) Ravens have played Jets and Cincy. (Two overrated defences IMO. Both got exposed in game number 1. The Jets could be the real deal, but I have my doubts about the Bengals.)
8) Browns have played KC and Tampa. (Both have good/great defenses.)
9) Browns Defense is giving up 130 a game on the ground. and is 22 in the nfl against the run. (Pretty bad, but still no running TD's or 100 yard rushers.)


Numbers don't lie......Ray Rice with 19-24 carries and at least 1 TD, possibly 2.

I am glad you asked...........The Browns are anemic on offense, the above supports this. When a team gets a lead they run the ball to work on the clock.

Look at the very first game of the season. Pierre Thomas. Zero first half carries, runs out the clock in the 4th quarter and finishes with 71 yards and a TD.

Browns defense better? YES, absolutely.....one of the few bright spots thus far.

Browns defense on the field 40+ minutes? ABSOLUTELY ~ between the turnovers the ravens will cause and the inability to run the ball and pick up critical first downs.........the Ravens will control the line of scrimmage, the ball, the clock, the game. Baltimore has vowed to focus on the run this week and I wouldn't be surprised if they rushed it almost 40 times.


KC and Tampa do NOT have great defenses.

The bengals played one of their best game in a year by intercepting flacco 4 times last sunday, they have a much better defense then you give them credit for, trust me look at the numbers last year and read what people say about them this year. The pat's game was a mirage just like the Pat's falling apart and inability to score against the Jets after the first quarter is an anomoly.



Look at last week..........Texans versus the Redskins. The Skins are up quickly by two scores. Texans abandon the run. Arian Foster had no chance for a big game because they were behind the whole game.
Teams that jump on to half time leads run the ball in 2nd half and the pass opens up the run. The Ravens will run 20+ more PLAYS then the Browns because they will be on the field more on offense and the Browns D will be doing arm tackles after being on the field for 40+ minutes.


Anyone else agree with me or am I crazy? LOL.

 

[mstng99tim]

::facepalm::

Adding WR threats only makes your running game all that much better, as the defense can't stack the box to help the run. Just because a team adds a few WR's to their team that are better than what they used to have doesn't mean they will pass every down, this isn't a video game. You have to run the ball to keep a somewhat balanced offense.

Here are the points:

1) Rice played 2 games last year against the browns and scored a TD in each game. (I think the Browns defense has significantly improved from last year.)
2) the Browns leading rusher has 85 yards on 25 rushes and no TDs. (What does this have to do with Rice?)
3) The Ravens have not given up a TD all year. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
4) Browns will have to pass the ball. (Jerome Harrison will get 15-20 carries.)
5) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL at 100 yards per game allowed. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
6) Ravens are 2nd in the NFL in total defense. (What does that have to do with Rice?)
7) Ravens have played Jets and Cincy. (Two overrated defences IMO. Both got exposed in game number 1. The Jets could be the real deal, but I have my doubts about the Bengals.)
8) Browns have played KC and Tampa. (Both have good/great defenses.)
9) Browns Defense is giving up 130 a game on the ground. and is 22 in the nfl against the run. (Pretty bad, but still no running TD's or 100 yard rushers.)


Numbers don't lie......Ray Rice with 19-24 carries and at least 1 TD, possibly 2.

I am glad you asked...........The Browns are anemic on offense, the above supports this. When a team gets a lead they run the ball to work on the clock.

Look at the very first game of the season. Pierre Thomas. Zero first half carries, runs out the clock in the 4th quarter and finishes with 71 yards and a TD.

Browns defense better? YES, absolutely.....one of the few bright spots thus far.

Browns defense on the field 40+ minutes? ABSOLUTELY ~ between the turnovers the ravens will cause and the inability to run the ball and pick up critical first downs.........the Ravens will control the line of scrimmage, the ball, the clock, the game. Baltimore has vowed to focus on the run this week and I wouldn't be surprised if they rushed it almost 40 times.


KC and Tampa do NOT have great defenses.

The bengals played one of their best game in a year by intercepting flacco 4 times last sunday, they have a much better defense then you give them credit for, trust me look at the numbers last year and read what people say about them this year. The pat's game was a mirage just like the Pat's falling apart and inability to score against the Jets after the first quarter is an anomoly.



Look at last week..........Texans versus the Redskins. The Skins are up quickly by two scores. Texans abandon the run. Arian Foster had no chance for a big game because they were behind the whole game.
Teams that jump on to half time leads run the ball in 2nd half and the pass opens up the run. The Ravens will run 20+ more PLAYS then the Browns because they will be on the field more on offense and the Browns D will be doing arm tackles after being on the field for 40+ minutes.


Anyone else agree with me or am I crazy? LOL.

Agreed. I was just too lazy to type it all out. :lol: That and the fact that I didn't feel like explaining how the game of football is played in the NFL, but you just about covered everything I would've mentioned.

 

[jdbrak]

This has to be a four team league

 

[EricInCT]

This has to be a four team league

Rumor is the Rain Man is leading the league :lol:

 

[soccerman034]

The great thing is, we will see who is right. And best believe, i will rub it in if I am right. And on the other hand, I will fully admit if I am wrong. God, I love football season.

 

[soccerman034]

This has to be a four team league

Rumor is the Rain Man is leading the league :lol:

I don't know what that is supposed to mean, but i have some issues with your post.

I get what you mean about the defense being on the field more, but Flacco has been turnover prone this year, so who's to say they don't give it right back a few times? I agree that it should give Rice a bit of a boost, but enough to start him over a guy like Tim Hightower who is playing against Oakland? I think not.

KC is 2-0, mostly because of their defense. You may discount the fact that they held the Browns to 14 points, but how about holding the powerful San Diego Offense to just 14 points in the first game (especially after they just hung 38 on Jacksonville). Their defense is doted with first round draft picks, and I think that drafting is starting to pay off.

Tampa Bay is also 2-0 because of its defense, but you wouldn't even count those wins (Cleveland and Carolina). They are a good unit with a ton of talent.

The Bengals had a great game last week no doubt, but after watching the pats game, i can't bet on that defense before I see a couple of good weeks in a row. Tom Brady dismantled the secondary in that game.

Regardless, I guess we will see.

 

[soccerman034]

For the record, here is my starting lineup as of now:

QB: Matt Ryan: Great rebound week, but going against a tough NO defense.
QB: Matt Hasselback: Got the start over Freeman because I think the Steelers D is better than San Diego's.
RB: Jahvid Best: No Brainer.
RB: Ray Rice: He was my number one overall pick, but this is the last week he gets. If he can't preform against the Browns he will either be benched or traded.
RB: Tim Hightower: Got the start over Rashard Mendenhall because he's going against the Raiders. Rashard will be a great start once Ben is back.
WR: Roddy White: Ryan's go to guy; these two are key to my fantasy success.
WR: Austin Collie: No Brainer.
WR: Steve Smith: Has been a beast despite the QB issues.
WR: Calvin Johnson: Minnesota's D hasn't looked good, he's in the same position as Rice.
TE: Marcedes Lewis: Nice TE sleeper.
TE: Brandon Pettigrew
Utility: Pierre Thomas
Utility: Darren McFadden
Defense: Steelers
Defense: Giants
Kicker: Garrett Hartley.

Thanks for the advice guys. I didn't mean to be argumentative, I've just been hung over all day ::facepalm::

Oh, and its a 7 team league.