is it ridiculous that redemptions expire?

[J.O.]

i say yes, for the fact that if the card was eventually made, you should be able to get it whenever since it should've been in the product in the first place. some may so no, as many companies offer deals that expire, or the cards could then be used as replacements, etc. so, what do u think?

 

[Pinbreaker]

How hard would it have been to have MgGwire sign something? To say that nope the card is expired.. Can't do anything really sucks..

 

[J.O.]

How hard would it have been to have MgGwire sign something? To say that nope the card is expired.. Can't do anything really sucks..

or even just to throw you something i'm sure they have stashed away like a signed ball/photo, etc

 

[theplasticman]

Print one redemption for Player A, get something from Player A for that redemption. Honor it.

Doesn't seem like rocket science. If you've got to do sticker autos... get a crap load of them EARLY not after the fact. ::facepalm::

 

[allstars]

i gotta agree,

 

[justinmandawg]

I say it is ridiculous. Even if they cannot get a guy to sign, don't give someone else's card as a replacement, instead give wax or memorabilia.

 

[hive17]

By dealing with redemptions in a product, we, as consumers, are already giving these companies some slack they really don't deserve. To put an expiration date on it is even stupider. They're basically saying: "well, we can't get our **** together in the first place; but we're only going to be cool about it for a year and a half. After that, tough."

 

[pudge1760]

I totally agree that it is ridiculous that redemptions expire. I think that it is even more ridiculous that Gift certificates expire. My grandmother bout me a gift certificate to a golf course a few years ago. I misplaced it and found it earlier this year. It had already expired. When I called the golf course they said sorry they do not honor expired gift cards. To me this makes no sense. They already got their money. Let me play!!!

 

[J.O.]

I totally agree that it is ridiculous that redemptions expire. I think that it is even more ridiculous that Gift certificates expire. My grandmother bout me a gift certificate to a golf course a few years ago. I misplaced it and found it earlier this year. It had already expired. When I called the golf course they said sorry they do not honor expired gift cards. To me this makes no sense. They already got their money. Let me play!!!

yeah i understand. about 7 or 8 years ago i recall having gift cards that expired. however, all the gift cards i have gotten the last few years from major companies do not have an expiration date, which is nice

 

[muchuckwagon]

There are many reasons why a redemption expires. Think of the logistics behind storing a card for five, ten or even thirty years. That is just not possible or practical. Second, in the real world companies have to take accounting rules into consideration. An unclaimed redemption card is a liability and it is unreasonable to think a company should have to carry that liability indefinitely. That is why rebate checks, some gift cards and other similar items expire....otherwise the accounting would be a mess.

 

[prospectorgems]

I agree, it is ridiculous. I saw somewhere where the company (not sure which one) couldn't supply the autograph so they received the actual card itself unsigned and something else. I agree with other other people as well. If the card is no longer in their inventory, then send something else. It makes buying older boxes less fun, but what do the companies care, they sold out of their product for that year so it is no longer their problem.

 

[prospectorgems]

There are many reasons why a redemption expires. Think of the logistics behind storing a card for five, ten or even thirty years. That is just not possible or practical. Second, in the real world companies have to take accounting rules into consideration. An unclaimed redemption card is a liability and it is unreasonable to think a company should have to carry that liability indefinitely. That is why rebate checks, some gift cards and other similar items expire....otherwise the accounting would be a mess.

I agree with this to a point. If this is the case for accounting reasons, there is no reason why companies cannot enforce at least a 5 year expiration rule. The thing is, have you ever not been able to find a product out there that hasn't been unopened in the last 30 years? I could see it if the company sold out of their product that year and two years no unopened product was to be found, thus making that expiration reasonable. But....that's just not going to happen unless companies extremely limit their production.

 

[noaskiecards]

This may have been mentioned, but one of the more important factors is that companies like Topps, Upper Deck, etc. really actually hurt their products down the line. Part of the popularity of a product comes from it's resale value.

A box like 2001 bowman chrome would probably be 2 - 3 times in value if the Pujols wasn't a redemption I am guessing.

By adding redemptions, card companies hurt their products and the expiration is the icing on the cake. Just look at 08 BCDP. I believe Jesus Montero and others have redemption autos in the product. Years down the road, that could really hurt the resale value of the product.

 

[Philip J. Fry]

What if a company goes out of business?

 

[BunchOBull]

If the card companies insist on destroying those cards not redeemed, I wish they would atleast keep an accurate account of how many actually made it into circulation.

 

[theplasticman]

If the card companies insist on destroying those cards not redeemed, I wish they would atleast keep an accurate account of how many actually made it into circulation.

That would be a reasonable expectation but not so... I think if the card companies were a bit more strategic in how they did things (like monitoring the population of rarer redemption items accurately) it would enhance the value of their products and their overall brand.

 

[J.O.]

What if a company goes out of business?

should be the only reason not to fulfill a redemption.




and also on the subject about expiring: i feel it might be a little too much for a consumer to want the card he pulled from a 2005 box 35 years later in 2040. But it's not fair, imo, that I can buy a box from 2005 or 2006 right now and not be able to get my card.

 

[Philip J. Fry]

[quote="Philip J. Fry":3n6l705m]What if a company goes out of business?

should be the only reason not to fulfill a redemption.




and also on the subject about expiring: i feel it might be a little too much for a consumer to want the card he pulled from a 2005 box 35 years later in 2040. But it's not fair, imo, that I can buy a box from 2005 or 2006 right now and not be able to get my card.[/quote:3n6l705m]

I think 5 years should be the max for redemptions, but since I'm not a prospector, I'm probably going to get thrown under a bus for saying that.

 

[justinmandawg]

[quote="J.O.":3oq8d8ty][quote="Philip J. Fry":3oq8d8ty]What if a company goes out of business?

should be the only reason not to fulfill a redemption.




and also on the subject about expiring: i feel it might be a little too much for a consumer to want the card he pulled from a 2005 box 35 years later in 2040. But it's not fair, imo, that I can buy a box from 2005 or 2006 right now and not be able to get my card.[/quote:3oq8d8ty]

I think 5 years should be the max for redemptions, but since I'm not a prospector, I'm probably going to get thrown under a bus for saying that.[/quote:3oq8d8ty]

Plenty of guys that aren't prospects come as redemptions. If it were 5 years, I'd take 5 years. Some have been as short as months to redeem.

 

[Jeff D]

While I wish that redemptions were good for 5 or 10 years, rather than 1 or 2, I don't think it's ridiculous that they expire.

Redemptions are an unfortunate aspect of busting wax these days, and I hope there's a trend towards lowering/eliminating them. But since there are so many of them out there right now, it's a little unrealistic to expect card companies to keep inventory of them all in stock for an unlimited amount of time.
Checks expire, and this is the same sort of idea. After a certain amount of time, you can't be expected to keep track of what's still out there.

I do however feel that there should be some sort of compensation with a card(s) of approximate equal value for at least 5 years after the product was released. I would even take the lesser of the current market value OR the market value of the card at the time of release.