Is this auction a joke?

[sportscardtheory]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

 

[jdfoxtrot79]

Plain White T's- Hate

Hate is a strong word
But I really really really don't like you
Now that it's over
I don't even know what I liked about you
Brought you around
And you just brought me down.
Hate is a strong word.
But I really really really don't like you.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

 

[moxacaine]

1) The box I received from Topps was their mistake. I am not trying say to I pulled one over on them, but anyone here would have busted the box that they received. I got the box in the mail, seen a box of Topps Triple Threads...I didn't even see the notice they sent until after I busted it. The notice said they sent this as a replacement for the RED Frazier I redeemed. As of that date, I never redeemed a Red, only a Refractor. I would have busted the bust either way and 95% of everyone here would have to. If you wouldn't I guess you are a saint.
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Any normal person would be like why did i get this box that i didnt order and check the rest of the package or the return address.

It might be hard for you to believe but there are a lot of honest people that would have contacted Topps. Me being one of them. Hell there was a guy back on Beckett that recieved two of the three Ruth Exquisite Jerseys when he was only supposed to get one. He contacted UD and made it right. Being honest really is not that difficult.

 

[Craig - 21hawk]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

He's intentionally misleading uneducated bidders into believing the card pictured is part of the lot. He's hoping they won't read the description and bid like a Porcello is included. There is no other reason to put that photo there.

That's unethical.

Craig

 

[SilverandBlack]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

 

[jdfoxtrot79]

1) The box I received from Topps was their mistake. I am not trying say to I pulled one over on them, but anyone here would have busted the box that they received. I got the box in the mail, seen a box of Topps Triple Threads...I didn't even see the notice they sent until after I busted it. The notice said they sent this as a replacement for the RED Frazier I redeemed. As of that date, I never redeemed a Red, only a Refractor. I would have busted the bust either way and 95% of everyone here would have to. If you wouldn't I guess you are a saint.
.

Any normal person would be like why did i get this box that i didnt order and check the rest of the package or the return address.

It might be hard for you to believe but there are a lot of honest people that would have contacted Topps. Me being one of them. Hell there was a guy back on Beckett that recieved two of the three Ruth Exquisite Jerseys when he was only supposed to get one. He contacted UD and made it right. Being honest really is not that difficult.

Ditto. Got a gold status EEE auto /5 from donruss in 2007 when I was supposed to get the /50 version. I was tempted, but after a couple seconds I got on the phone. They sent me a box just for being honest and I mailed the gold back to them. It's not hard to do, and you'll feel like crap if you aren't honest

 

[sportscardtheory]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

:lol: That's a little harsh. There are a LOT of dirt-bags on eBay that do WAY more to buyers/sellers than using questionable/misleading photos on their listings.

 

[KOBEARODLT]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

+1

 

[DaleMurphyCollector]

As Craig has stated...Unethical.

This seller (& poster on this MB) is now on my "This Guy is a Festering Genital Wart - Do Not Bid" list.

 

[beefycheddar]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

:lol: That's a little harsh. There are a LOT of dirt-bags on eBay that do WAY more to buyers/sellers than using questionable/misleading photos on their listings.

Yeah but most dirtbags aren't part of this community, I'd like to think we hold ourselves here to a slightly higher standard.

 

[jdfoxtrot79]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

:lol: That's a little harsh. There are a LOT of dirt-bags on eBay that do WAY more to buyers/sellers than using questionable/misleading photos on their listings.

Yeah but most dirtbags aren't part of this community, I'd like to think we hold ourselves here to a slightly higher standard.

Unfortunately one has infiltrated the ranks! :shock:

 

[DaleMurphyCollector]

dirtbag seller plain and simple

:lol: That's a little harsh. There are a LOT of dirt-bags on eBay that do WAY more to buyers/sellers than using questionable/misleading photos on their listings.

But those guys aren't members of this board, posting freely about what they are doing and non-chalantly responding to other members' concerns about their actions. Ironic that the OP originally was calling someone out for being shady, yet he turns out to be shady himself. Total dick move on his part.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Like I said, I would never do what the OP is doing on his auctions because I find it tacky, but I still think you guys are being a little harsh. If he was ripping people off, or sending different items than what was won or whatever else, I would agree with you. But being vague and using misleading photos to promote your items is far from the many terrible things I hear about people doing on eBay. I guess I'm just more easy-going than most. Perfection in this "community" and on eBay is impossible as not everyone has the same ideals/ethics/morals. I'll stand by saying this is far from the worst I have seen on eBay... I have seen/heard about some crazy ass stuff.

 

[jdacunha]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":3gpf7pxz]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

He's intentionally misleading uneducated bidders into believing the card pictured is part of the lot. He's hoping they won't read the description and bid like a Porcello is included. There is no other reason to put that photo there.

That's unethical.

Craig[/quote:3gpf7pxz]

If a buyer bid because he thought he was getting the Orange, I would return every penny of his $. My only goal was to get more hits on my auction, not to mislead. You guys are really over reacting over this. Dirt bag? Is that really necessary?
I have 100% positive feedback and have refunded any and every unsatisfied buyer (3 out over 700 sales).

 

[jdfoxtrot79]

[quote="Craig - 21hawk":1xi7kswx]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

He's intentionally misleading uneducated bidders into believing the card pictured is part of the lot. He's hoping they won't read the description and bid like a Porcello is included. There is no other reason to put that photo there.

That's unethical.

Craig

If a buyer bid because he thought he was getting the Orange, I would return every penny of his $. My only goal was to get more hits on my auction, not to mislead. You guys are really over reacting over this. Dirt bag? Is that really necessary?
I have 100% positive feedback and have refunded any and every unsatisfied buyer (3 out over 700 sales).[/quote:1xi7kswx]

Why even put yourself in that predicament?

 

[jarcar]

Like I said, I would never do what the OP is doing on his auctions because I find it tacky, but I still think you guys are being a little harsh. If he was ripping people off, or sending different items than what was won or whatever else, I would agree with you. But being vague and using misleading photos to promote your items is far from the many terrible things I hear about people doing on eBay. I guess I'm just more easy-going than most. Perfection in this "community" and on eBay is impossible as not everyone has the same ideals/ethics/morals. I'll stand by saying this is far from the worst I have seen on eBay... I have seen/heard about some crazy ass stuff.

I do agree with you on this. I don't like what the op is doing I don't agree with it, I wouldn't do it but as a buyer I ALWAYS read the description before I bid, I've seen many auctions like this with a picture of a nice card etc and the description says what you are bidding on. I move on if it is not for me. The seller got me to look at his auction that maybe I wouldn't have otherwise. No biggie.

Is it shady maybe a little, does he deserve to be called a dirt bag... no.

Here is a nother old saying to go with your jumping off a bridge..

If your friend was named cliff would you jump off him? :?

 

[i43770]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

The sub-title says "Loaded Lot 2+ Cases Worth Refs, Blues, Chrome + More!!!" and in the description it says "NOTHING was pulled" (in bold). Then he makes the disclaimer (not in bold) that the orange Porcello isn't included.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I don't find using the Porcello as his picture to be that big of a deal... ESPECIALLY if it is within the eBay TOS. It is definitely not something I would do, but seriously, if someone placed a bid expecting that card, they would have to be pretty dense... that's why there are descriptions. Shady, yes... wrong, no.

For me shady = wrong. Ethics are as important as rules and laws, and this action isn't ethical.

Craig

He's not selling a Porcello Orange in this listing... I don't think it is un-ethical, it's simply a selling strategy. If he had no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you bid???

The sub-title says "Loaded Lot 2+ Cases Worth Refs, Blues, Chrome + More!!!" and in the description it says "NOTHING was pulled" (in bold). Then he makes the disclaimer (not in bold) that the orange Porcello isn't included.

Okay, so it's agreed that if you read the description (which every buyer should do) you would know that you are not getting the Orange. So I'll ask again, if there was no picture at all, would you expect to get nothing if you won the auction? I'm not trying to argue with any one, I'm just saying that it I don't think what the OP is doing is as BAD as most in here are making it out to be.