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Crash Davis

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pujolsjunkie said:
Forget Colorado syndrome, how about playing-in-a-completely-different-era syndrome? Rice played at a time when 30 HR was a big deal.

So did Dale Murphy and, to some extent, Joe Carter.

My main point was that Murphy is getting the shaft while Rice rides off into the sunset.

Makes virtually no sense to me.

And it's not like Rice helped the Red Sox win even one Championship. And Murphy didn't help the Braves win one either.

Other than lifetime batting average and the perception that Rice was the most feared hitter of his time, which is horse-ish because his OBP was below average (which basically meant that he swung at everything), his candidacy is no stronger (or weaker) than Murphy's. In fact, the fact that Murphy won back-to-back MVPs should, at the very least, make up for the difference in batting average. At one time, Murphy was considered the best all-around player in baseball (speed, power, fielding). Was Rice? No. But his propaganda team has got the baseball writers to believe (over 15 years mind you) that he was the most feared hitter of his time.

I don't know about you, but guys like Mike Schmidt, George Brett and Dave Winfield come to mind before Jim Rice.
 

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Crash Davis said:
pujolsjunkie said:
Forget Colorado syndrome, how about playing-in-a-completely-different-era syndrome? Rice played at a time when 30 HR was a big deal.

So did Dale Murphy and, to some extent, Joe Carter.

My main point was that Murphy is getting the shaft while Rice rides off into the sunset.

Makes virtually no sense to me.

And it's not like Rice helped the Red Sox win even one Championship. And Murphy didn't help the Braves win one either.

Other than lifetime batting average and the perception that Rice was the most feared hitter of his time, which is horse-ish because his OBP was below average (which basically meant that he swung at everything), his candidacy is no stronger (or weaker) than Murphy's. In fact, the fact that Murphy won back-to-back MVPs should, at the very least, make up for the difference in batting average. At one time, Murphy was considered the best all-around player in baseball (speed, power, fielding). Was Rice? No. But his propaganda team has got the baseball writers to believe (over 15 years mind you) that he was the most feared hitter of his time.

I don't know about you, but guys like Mike Schmidt, George Brett and Dave Winfield come to mind before Jim Rice.

Not when you compare their stats to his from 1975-1986.

Wow, I can't believe the venom @ inducting Rice.
Where is the venom for Tony Perez, Orlando Cepeda and Kirby Puckett?
 

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