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I have a feeling those hammering Riggleman are unemployed or have terrible jobs. If my boss wasn't paying me what I felt I was worth and wouldn't commit to my future at the company I would quit too. And to Riggleman this is a normal job, he's not doing it for fun...hasn't he proved that?

I am working full time as a human resource professional (and understand at will states believe me) as well as attending college full time to obtain a degree and a masters in human resource management. Your feelings were not correct and I have to warn you against making assumptions about people you know zero about!!

Most ironic post of the thread. Congratulations.
 

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seitas said:
mchenrycards said:
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I have a feeling those hammering Riggleman are unemployed or have terrible jobs. If my boss wasn't paying me what I felt I was worth and wouldn't commit to my future at the company I would quit too. And to Riggleman this is a normal job, he's not doing it for fun...hasn't he proved that?

I am working full time as a human resource professional (and understand at will states believe me) as well as attending college full time to obtain a degree and a masters in human resource management. Your feelings were not correct and I have to warn you against making assumptions about people you know zero about!!

Most ironic post of the thread. Congratulations.

Here is where you are wrong....Riggs was on ESPN and every media outlet last night saying why he quit...Please re-read my posts and tell me where I made any asumptions about him other than what he said. I said he quit on his team which is my opinion. I based that on what he said. There is no asumptions about something I dont know because he was all over the media last night and today providing his story. No asumptions on my part and therefor no irony!

The irony is that you are the one who made an assumptions about many of our employment status or job satisfaction and then you try and hammer me about making assumptions!!
 

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Anyone posting in this thread happen to remember that Lou Piniella quit on the Rays in the middle of the season just because they were bad, not because of his contract.

And just one short year later (after a lucrative job at Fox) got a new managerial job with HUGE paper.

Riggleman was the lowest paid manager in baseball, and was getting dicked around in regards to his contract extension.

National media is largely backing his decision in this situation.
 

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I can understand being upset about a contract situation, and feeling like you are getting paid less than you deserve, but you knew the terms of the contract when you signed it, and have every opportunity during the course of the year to make your point as to why you deserve an increase. To "take your ball and go home" is the worst possible idea I've ever heard of.
 

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Sean_C said:
I can understand being upset about a contract situation, and feeling like you are getting paid less than you deserve, but you knew the terms of the contract when you signed it, and have every opportunity during the course of the year to make your point as to why you deserve an increase. To "take your ball and go home" is the worst possible idea I've ever heard of.

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frzg said:
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I can understand being upset about a contract situation, and feeling like you are getting paid less than you deserve, but you knew the terms of the contract when you signed it, and have every opportunity during the course of the year to make your point as to why you deserve an increase. To "take your ball and go home" is the worst possible idea I've ever heard of.

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It had nothing to do with how much he was getting paid.

This whole situation arose from the fact that Washington had yet to pick up his contract option for next year, leaving him with an uncertain future.

It was NOT about his salary for this season.
 

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chashawk said:
Anyone posting in this thread happen to remember that Lou Piniella quit on the Rays in the middle of the season just because they were bad, not because of his contract.

And just one short year later (after a lucrative job at Fox) got a new managerial job with HUGE paper.

Riggleman was the lowest paid manager in baseball, and was getting dicked around in regards to his contract extension.

National media is largely backing his decision in this situation.

Not here in Boston. They stopped talking Bruins for awhile to rip Riggleman. Also How many teams has Riggleman lead to playoffs and WS? what is his career record as a manager. Guy should be happy to have a job.
 

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If that is indeed the case, then PLAY OUT THE CONTRACT THAT YOU SIGNED, AND SHOW YOU DESERVE TO GET MORE MONEY AND YEARS EITHER IN WASHINGTON OR SOMEWHERE ELSE!

What the hell is wrong with people? Not mad at you chashawk, but I just don't understand why people feel that contracts are the starting points of negotiations these days rather than the end of them.

chashawk said:
frzg said:
Sean_C said:
I can understand being upset about a contract situation, and feeling like you are getting paid less than you deserve, but you knew the terms of the contract when you signed it, and have every opportunity during the course of the year to make your point as to why you deserve an increase. To "take your ball and go home" is the worst possible idea I've ever heard of.

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It had nothing to do with how much he was getting paid.

This whole situation arose from the fact that Washington had yet to pick up his contract option for next year, leaving him with an uncertain future.

It was NOT about his salary for this season.
 

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James52411 said:
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Good for Jim Riggleman. If the franchise isn't willing to meet his terms then he has every right to quit. Rizzo better hope the squad keeps playing well or he will get some heat.

Could not disagree more. I think he should be blacklisted for pulling that crap. Every GM/Coach in the last year of the contract can throw a temper tantrum and quit because they weren't extended? That's an absolute joke and I think Riggleman is a piece of shat for doing that. Cannot get anymore selfish.

If anyone gets 'heat', it will be Riggleman for quitting on his team when they were finally coming around. If I was a player, he'd get 100% of the blame from me.

A person can quit at any time for any reason unless their contract requires otherwise. If your employer is jerking you around, you have every right to quit.

Sure. Many contracts have penalties built in, these are in addition to any penalties/remedies as afforded by the law.

When managers get fired, the team will still pay the consequences - which generally include the manager still gettng paid. Why shouldn't managers be allowed to leave if they pay the consequences?
 

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Admittedly I do not know the specs. Is it frustrating to not know if you have the support of your superiors? Absolutely. Do I wish I had the financial security to quit when I get frustrated? Absolutely. However, if I sign a contract I am going to fulfill the agreement.
 

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The Giants hired Jim Riggleman today. Boy that was quick for a guy that a lot of you said would NEVER be back in MLB.
 

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seitas said:
The Giants hired Jim Riggleman today. Boy that was quick for a guy that a lot of you said would NEVER be back in MLB.

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I hope hes blacklisted from baseball and is not allowed to manage again.

"The Giants have hired former Nationals manager Jim Riggleman as a special assignment scout"

Yes, from manager to "special assistant scout", we were all wrong!

::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::
 

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He's already back working for an MLB team, in a front office job no less...hardly blacklisted.
 

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He's already back working for an MLB team, in a front office job no less...hardly blacklisted.

Are you really comparing the two? Wow, If Riggleman resigns in the middle of the season as a special assistant scout, do you think anyone would give a ****?

HE WILL NOT MANAGE AGAIN.
 

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frzg said:
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He's already back working for an MLB team, in a front office job no less...hardly blacklisted.

Are you really comparing the two? Wow, If Riggleman resigns in the middle of the season as a special assistant scout, do you think anyone would give a quit swearing

HE WILL NOT MANAGE AGAIN.

Your points are convoluted. Riggleman is back in MLB and no one, except for you, knows if he will coach again. Just like no one knew the whole story as to why he left the Nationals. But don't let assumptions get in the way of reality.
 

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