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JackLondon said:
Dimaggio is great for many reasons, among them the fact that he is mentioned in a song by Simon and Garfunkel. The stats are good, too, but we are talkin' SIMON AND GARFUNKEL here! 8-)
But DiMaggio only got a mention, Mickey Mantle was the entire topic of a song by the legendary Teresa Brewer. As far as I am concerned, this entire thread is "Music, music, music."
 

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200lbhockeyplayer said:
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While Jeremy is Jeremy, the entire "statistical anomaly" is absolutely true.

To me, it's like the celebration of the cycle. If a player hits for the cycle, they get more publicity and excitement than a player who hit 2 HR and 2 doubles.
The streak was important for the fact that it captivated the entire nation at a time when we were entering WW2. That and the fact that noone has even really come close to it in 70+ years.
I'd consider Pete Rose close at 44.
12 games short is not close.
 

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Nuff' said.
 

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If D-Dog was so great, why did Bowman never make a Chrome auto of him? Even the Topps scouts thought he wasn't worth the $7.
 

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Could it be said that it is harder to maintain a hitting streak these days due to the difficulty of hitting against a pitcher now compared with what pitchers threw back then?
 

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I think the biggest difficulty is in the way pitchers are used. You might come to bat 4 times these days and face 4 different pitchers. Or the one-AB specialist. It's debatable if pitchers are better today (full-time lifelong activity, open to all races, international, etc.) but other factors come into play, all the travel, night ball, etc. Plus there's plain luck, or something equally unquantifiable. I think in 2001 or 2002, Ichiro had something like a 90-game span and was only hitless in 5 of them. He'd have a 20 or 30-game hit streak, go ohfer in a game or two, then rip another 20-game run. Move a couple of those off-days around and he breaks the record.
 

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ASTROBURN said:
Could it be said that it is harder to maintain a hitting streak these days due to the difficulty of hitting against a pitcher now compared with what pitchers threw back then?

That and pitchers today get 4-5 days rest....how many days were they getting back then? Throw in the advancements in training/conditioning and I think this is a record that will stand. It's the same reason most of the stats from the early 1900's and pre-1900's are differentiated from the 'modern era'.
 

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Fandruw25 said:
ASTROBURN said:
Could it be said that it is harder to maintain a hitting streak these days due to the difficulty of hitting against a pitcher now compared with what pitchers threw back then?

That and pitchers today get 4-5 days rest....how many days were they getting back then? Throw in the advancements in training/conditioning and I think this is a record that will stand. It's the same reason most of the stats from the early 1900's and pre-1900's are differentiated from the 'modern era'.

There's no question that pitchers are better now than they have ever been. Beyond the fitness, specialization and larger talent pool, pitchers have pitches today that didn't exist back when DiMaggio played. The cutter has only recently become prevalent, and is at the root of the pitching resurgence of the past couple of seasons. The slider wasn't commonly thrown until the 90's.
 

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In 1947, Dimaggio won his 3rd MVP by beating out Ted Williams.....Williams happen to have won the triple crown that year!

But much more importantly, the yankees won the world series in 7 !!!
 

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elmalo said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:
While Jeremy is Jeremy, the entire "statistical anomaly" is absolutely true.

To me, it's like the celebration of the cycle. If a player hits for the cycle, they get more publicity and excitement than a player who hit 2 HR and 2 doubles.
The streak was important for the fact that it captivated the entire nation at a time when we were entering WW2. That and the fact that noone has even really come close to it in 70+ years.

The extent of my knowledge of American history is pretty much made up of what I've learned from movies and television, but didn't the USA enter WW2 a few months after DiMaggio's streak ended?
 

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at tennis maybe... ;)

idiot post that should only be posted on April 1st ;)

per 162 (baseball) games played...
207 hits, 34 HRs, 34 SOs, 143 RBIs

7 out of 13 seasons with more HRs than SOs.... the best ever! (Yogi is #2 with 6 seasons)
Ted Williams did it 4 times in 19 seasons
Stan Musial did it 1 time in 22 seasons
Rogers Hornsby did it 1 times in 23 seasons
Mel Ott didn it 1 time in 22 seasons

and Yankee stadium was the Grand Canyon back then for a righty... they have moved the fence in quite a bit nowadays

he is easily a top 5 hitter of all time!
yet I would chose him #1 ever, if I need a hit with a runner on 2nd with 2 outs in the bottom of the ninth.

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