Just how rare are the 2002 Bowman Chrome Facsimilie autos?

[flightposite]

As most of you should know, the autos in 02 BC had rare facsimilie variations. I was wondering just how rare most people thought they were. I've as low as 20 and if you look at pop reports they are always lower than gold refractors.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

I've had about 5 Gavin Floyds go through my hands throughout the years. It's my guess that 50 were produced. However, because of the lack of knowledge about the cards, I suspect half are still in 'commons' bins. Therefore, only the bigger names made it into the hobby circulation.

They're rare, and still draw premiums on eBay.

 

[Bill Menard]

Dunno, but I had one of thepit.com encased autos of Wright /10 that ended up being worth nothing once all the hustlers and cheaters decided to encase their pack pulled ones and Topps didn't bother to keep track of the serial #'s for the 10 authentics.

 

[Tom Oates]

I must be living in the dark. Can you explain these variation?

 

[daveyou]

I must be living in the dark. Can you explain these variation?

you see the wright above? this is the chrome card with the facsimile auto.

we also have the wright chrome auto and the bowman base (non chrome) that has facsimile auto

supposedly, they are very limited but i see it quiet a few often

dave

 

[flightposite]

Dave, what do you mean by you see them often? Maybe its just that wright gets sold a lot? It took over two years for me to find a mauer on ebay.

 

[daveyou]

Dave, what do you mean by you see them often? Maybe its just that wright gets sold a lot? It took over two years for me to find a mauer on ebay.

really? i've seen it alot on ebay actually when i used to look for his cards. there is no way there are only 10 or so copies out there. i never looked for mauer so that might be different though...

dave

 

[Bob Loblaw]

REgular autograph, # 396.

Here's my old PSA 10 Facsimile.

#251 in the set was Luis Terrero. THis got past PSA, obviously. THe picture on the back of the card is a little bigger, the card # is obviously wrong. Not many of them exist.

 

[Tom Oates]

I must be living in the dark. Can you explain these variation?

you see the wright above? this is the chrome card with the facsimile auto.

we also have the wright chrome auto and the bowman base (non chrome) that has facsimile auto

supposedly, they are very limited but i see it quiet a few often

dave

OK, Sounds like the entire set has parallels with fascimile autographs on them. I'll have to check my 2002 BC tonight and see if I notice anything different.

In a past thread about the 2005 Diamond King Glossy parallels I used the info to locate a Thome glossy in my commons. Supposedly only 20 of each glossy parallel exist. Haven't got around to listing it yet though.

 

[teachervido]

 

[Bob Loblaw]

[quote="Tom Oates":31qg330f]I must be living in the dark. Can you explain these variation?

you see the wright above? this is the chrome card with the facsimile auto.

we also have the wright chrome auto and the bowman base (non chrome) that has facsimile auto

supposedly, they are very limited but i see it quiet a few often

dave

OK, Sounds like the entire set has parallels with fascimile autographs on them. I'll have to check my 2002 BC tonight and see if I notice anything different.

In a past thread about the 2005 Diamond King Glossy parallels I used the info to locate a Thome glossy in my commons. Supposedly only 20 of each glossy parallel exist. Haven't got around to listing it yet though.[/quote:31qg330f]

If I recall, every card does except Jake MAuer. He was a redemption.

I think.

 

[cgilmo]

jake wasn't a redemption

i pulled many of them myself


man i broke a ton of that product

 

[MTBright]

So if i looked through my box of 02 bc, what would i be looking for as a difference between regular cards, some have a facsimilie and some do. or is it just the autos?

 

[Bob Loblaw]

jake wasn't a redemption

i pulled many of them myself


man i broke a ton of that product

Then wasn't Joe Mauer the redemption?

One of them was a redemption, I thought.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

So if i looked through my box of 02 bc, what would i be looking for as a difference between regular cards, some have a facsimilie and some do. or is it just the autos?

Every player in the 2002 BC set has a facsimile autograph. The regular cards should have a facsimile autograph. Those players who had autographs inthe 2002 BC set have rare facsimile autographs - they are not numbered in the hgih 380s-390s-400s, but have much lower numbers. They are, on the front, almost identical, as I posted, except they have a facsimile autograph.

Here's an exception -- there are facsimile autographs produced in the regular amount of the last two autos in the set - So Taguchi and another japanese pitcher who I don't have the time to look up (Ishii?). So, if any player has an auto in the set, you would like to have his facsimile autograph, unless he's japanese. Those japanese facsimilie autographs (#401 and 402 I think) have no value.