Keith Law's Top 100 Prospects of 2013

[DaveH]

maybe a raul mondesi / ray lankford type

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

I saw Paulino play quite a bit and talked to his coaches about him. He had one of the most mature approaches I saw in the many NYP games I went to. As a 17 year old. His glove is pretty terrible and he might not have elite power yet. But the way he approached at bats was incredibly impressive. I see him as a corner OF with .285/.400/.485, maybe about 20 HR. He'll be a big leaguer in 3 years. The name I kept hearing was Manny Ramirez, both in ability and in attitude.

Not sure why any team would want a guy with Manny's attitude?

 

[sebpoo]

Is it possible to post the list again? Thanks!

 

[jbhofmann]

Not sure why any team would want a guy with Manny's attitude?

Because Manny's ability was off the charts good for a Right handed stick.

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

Because Manny's ability was off the charts good for a Right handed stick.

One word: Steriods

Plus his attidude was a complete me me me self centered jerk who only cared about himself.

 

[jbhofmann]

His bat was amazing. Steroids or not.

 

[VandyDan]

One word: Steriods

Plus his attidude was a complete me me me self centered jerk who only cared about himself.

When precisely did you start paying attention to Manny? Nearly all of his former teammates loved him, and he goofed around. He has one of the best eyes in the history of baseball, and took a very serious approach to hitting.

Seriously, the comp was made because the kid goofs around in warm ups like Manny did and he jokes around a decent amount. it isn't as though it was made because he walks around talking smack to people with needles protruding from his rump.

 

[phillyfan0417]

Lindor is 19 /12, not 18. Just pointing that out. You can say baez has holes, that is possible. I personally don't see "a bunch of holes" in his swing. I can tell you that Giancarlo Stanton has holes in swing, and I don't see that being argued.

If you want to do an over/under of Lindor's career high in Homeruns, I would take UNDER 20, for say $500 and not blink twice. Watch this tiny little dude play, and show me way the power is coming from. Its not there, and is NOT going to be there.

Derek Jeter has played 17 season and hit 255 home runs, would you take him as your Shortstop for 17 years?


Man Matt, when you want to make a point, you will micro the conversation.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Is it possible to post the list again? Thanks!

There was quite a bit of discussion in the chat that posting the list on message boards was basically stealing, so I am sure that's why JP took it down.

 

[BiggioBrooks755]

When precisely did you start paying attention to Manny? Nearly all of his former teammates loved him, and he goofed around. He has one of the best eyes in the history of baseball, and took a very serious approach to hitting.

Seriously, the comp was made because the kid goofs around in warm ups like Manny did and he jokes around a decent amount. it isn't as though it was made because he walks around talking smack to people with needles protruding from his rump.

Hmmmm...Lets see here...Remember him quiting on the Red Sox the couple games he was there? Remmeber him walking to first base on grounders to the shortstop, or fly balls to the outfielders? Remmeber him getting busted for steriods (or some drug FEMALES take) TWICE? Remember him QUITING on the Rays because he knew he would face a suspension, and rather than take it like a man, he quit?

Oh, and if you dont believe any of the things I just wrote about him, here is what former Red Sox manager Terry Francona has to say about this "fun loving goofball" (as you decribe him as"

In 2008, Ramirez threw a hissy fit and shoved 64-year-old team traveling secretary Jack McCormick to the ground when he was told a late request for 16 tickets to a game against the Houston Astros would not be fulfilled. The now-infamous incident quickly made the rounds through the media after it happened, but Francona gives readers an inside perspective on what went down.
“It took me a few seconds to realize this wasn’t in fun,” Francona said, via Chad Finn of the Boston Globe. “There were not a lot of guys around when I got out there, and I saw Jack leaning against a table, kind of dazed. I grabbed Manny and said, ‘What the [expletive] are you doing?’ I was hoping he wasn’t going to hit me.”
That’s Manny at his worst. Obviously the guy had some issues with his temper. As we know, he also had issues with his effort at various times throughout his tenure in Boston. Like that time in 2006 when he removed himself from a game against the Yankees in the fourth inning.
“I’ll never forget that,’’ Francona said. “He came off the field, walked down the dugout steps, yelled over, and said, ‘Hamstring!’ and I said, ‘Manny, which one?, and he pointed with both hands to both hamstrings. He was like, ‘You pick. [Expletive], I’m coming out. It was funny later, but it wasn’t funny at the time. I had had it with Manny at that point.”

 

[VandyDan]

Hmmmm...Lets see here...Remember him quiting on the Red Sox the couple games he was there? Remmeber him walking to first base on grounders to the shortstop, or fly balls to the outfielders? Remmeber him getting busted for steriods (or some drug FEMALES take) TWICE? Remember him QUITING on the Rays because he knew he would face a suspension, and rather than take it like a man, he quit?

Oh, and if you dont believe any of the things I just wrote about him, here is what former Red Sox manager Terry Francona has to say about this "fun loving goofball" (as you decribe him as"

In 2008, Ramirez threw a hissy fit and shoved 64-year-old team traveling secretary Jack McCormick to the ground when he was told a late request for 16 tickets to a game against the Houston Astros would not be fulfilled. The now-infamous incident quickly made the rounds through the media after it happened, but Francona gives readers an inside perspective on what went down.
“It took me a few seconds to realize this wasn’t in fun,” Francona said, via Chad Finn of the Boston Globe. “There were not a lot of guys around when I got out there, and I saw Jack leaning against a table, kind of dazed. I grabbed Manny and said, ‘What the [expletive] are you doing?’ I was hoping he wasn’t going to hit me.”
That’s Manny at his worst. Obviously the guy had some issues with his temper. As we know, he also had issues with his effort at various times throughout his tenure in Boston. Like that time in 2006 when he removed himself from a game against the Yankees in the fourth inning.
“I’ll never forget that,’’ Francona said. “He came off the field, walked down the dugout steps, yelled over, and said, ‘Hamstring!’ and I said, ‘Manny, which one?, and he pointed with both hands to both hamstrings. He was like, ‘You pick. [Expletive], I’m coming out. It was funny later, but it wasn’t funny at the time. I had had it with Manny at that point.”

So you do not remember him on the Indians? He did play for a team for quite a while before the Red Sox. Again, read what I said above about what was the basis for the comp. I don't think you can follow baseball and not know that Manny ticked some folks off. I also don't think you can watch baseball and not reckon him as one of the best hitters of all time, prior to both the Red Sox and steroid use.

 

[All The Hype]

Derek Jeter has played 17 season and hit 255 home runs, would you take him as your Shortstop for 17 years?


Man Matt, when you want to make a point, you will micro the conversation.

My guess is that when it's all said and done, he will average 10 or fewer homeruns per season. And I would bet my life savings that Francisco Lindor will not have 3,000 career hits.

That's not to discount his defensive ability or his value as a regular starter, but I don't see star power in him. Lack of star power is the reason I question his top ten ranking. Just my 2 cents.

 

[phillyfan0417]

My guess is that when it's all said and done, he will average 10 or fewer homeruns per season. And I would bet my life savings that Francisco Lindor will not have 3,000 career hits.

That's not to discount his defensive ability or his value as a regular starter, but I don't see star power in him. Lack of star power is the reason I question his top ten ranking. Just my 2 cents.

I guess we'll see, seems scouts and evaluators are high on him and there is alot to like. Average and power are important but he was young for the league he played in.