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mrmopar

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I noticed he was not an AS this year either. There are other pitchers who won a CY w/o being an AS, but the majority are all-stars as well.
 

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I noticed he was not an AS this year either. There are other pitchers who won a CY w/o being an AS, but the majority are all-stars as well.

MLB network mentioned he had an ERA below two in his last 16 or so starts...it's not how u start, it's how u finish
 

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True. I thought maybe he might have been the only pitcher to win the award w/o being named an AS at mid season, but I find a few before I stopped looking. There are probably more than I'd think.
 

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Was Greg Holland not a better and more valuable pitcher this year than Corey Kluber?

I'd take Holland any day of the week over Kluber. And Phil Hughes got 6x the votes Holland did? Unreal.

#closersgetnorespect
 
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Was Greg Holland not a better and more valuable pitcher this year than Corey Kluber?

I'd take Holland any day of the week over Kluber. And Phil Hughes got 6x the votes Holland did? Unreal.

#closersgetnorespect

With all due respect...Holland over Kluber is just crazy. Without even getting into a debate about stats, Holland is a pen arm. Starters like Kluber are much more difficult to find, and much more valuable to a team, then (most) relief pitchers. I would rather trot out Kluber and Cody Allen then any Royals SP and Holland.

This is no knock on Holland. He was awesome this season (277 ERA+), and couped with Wade Davis (399 ERA+) made easily one of the more dominant 1-2 punches of any pen in the league.

NOTE: this is just my two cents, so I probably could be convinced otherwise...so please don't flame me (:
 

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