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ThoseBackPages said:
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There's a big difference betwen collecting and investing, when one has to worry about the $ one has spent then it isn't much fun. I'll take the cardboard over the $.
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There's a big difference betwen collecting and investing, when one has to worry about the $ one has spent then it isn't much fun. I'll take the cardboard over the $.
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uniquebaseballcards said:
I said it before, I'm perfectly happy with how I collect/sell and have a LOT of fun with it. You CAN do both you know...
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sportscardtheory said:
Only for a short time before burning out. You can't continue to sell things you think you enjoy, its too much work, especially if its from your own collection. After a while it becomes more about the bucks.
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uniquebaseballcards said:
You can have your opinion, but it's a little strange to tell me what I won't be able to do. You can't have an opinion on how I feel about MY collecting/selling habits.
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Oy...you guys...
As for the rookie card rule...I think its dumb but like has been mentioned before...it does not affect me at all.I know whats a true rookie and what is not.A true rookie is the first card to come out of said player from a major league set.Not just or tristar mind you but from tops upper deck or any of the other liscensed stuff.But...I do hold a high value on minor league releases as well so cards like tristar and just and even razor are decent pickups for me.But I also think a good number of your casual collectors go for the cards that have the rookie card logo on them.I have seen this several times over when people come into a shop and ask for a players rookie card.They end up wanting the card that says rookie on it even though in many upon many cases this is not the players first issued MLB card from a liscensed MLB set.They do not understand or care that the first cards made are really the rookie cards of said player.But then again...if I decide they are based on personal opinion then who am I to tell them they are wrong or stupid for buying what they believe to be a true rookie card?
As for the worth of ones collection...I don't care if its a player I like collecting but I think deep down inside we would all like to think of our collections as being more than worthless at least money wise.Sure my Bagwell collection may not be worth a hill of beans to a lot of people but I would like to think it does have some value money wise.Not too sure many would deny this.But on the same foot...you collect what you like ...damn the book values.Just because something is not worth a ton or drops in prices happen...does not mean that your collection is worthless.
As for the rookie card rule...I think its dumb but like has been mentioned before...it does not affect me at all.I know whats a true rookie and what is not.A true rookie is the first card to come out of said player from a major league set.Not just or tristar mind you but from tops upper deck or any of the other liscensed stuff.But...I do hold a high value on minor league releases as well so cards like tristar and just and even razor are decent pickups for me.But I also think a good number of your casual collectors go for the cards that have the rookie card logo on them.I have seen this several times over when people come into a shop and ask for a players rookie card.They end up wanting the card that says rookie on it even though in many upon many cases this is not the players first issued MLB card from a liscensed MLB set.They do not understand or care that the first cards made are really the rookie cards of said player.But then again...if I decide they are based on personal opinion then who am I to tell them they are wrong or stupid for buying what they believe to be a true rookie card?
As for the worth of ones collection...I don't care if its a player I like collecting but I think deep down inside we would all like to think of our collections as being more than worthless at least money wise.Sure my Bagwell collection may not be worth a hill of beans to a lot of people but I would like to think it does have some value money wise.Not too sure many would deny this.But on the same foot...you collect what you like ...damn the book values.Just because something is not worth a ton or drops in prices happen...does not mean that your collection is worthless.
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We'll see where you are in a year or two. 
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sportscardtheory said:
How could he not have an opinion on your thoughts?
I agree though that it is hard to have a hobby you enjoy but then start selling things from it.Its kind of a one way street.I agree if I only collected Bagwell and didn't collect anything else(which is not the case but say it was) then anything else I got wouldn't matter to me and it could be for sell.But say I started selling certain Bagwell cards...it would take away from the fun of it.At least for me.Now I really don't have much of anything I collect because I am willing to start parting with the very collection I was so in to in the first place.This would most likely lead to me getting out of the hobby much like I did with comics and action figures.I used to collect the hell out of them but eventually lost interest and decided to sell.Well there was not one item in my collection that I didn't care about or that didn't have value to me so I figured...if any of it goes it all goes.It would not have been fun for me to shed some of it and still feel like my collection was complete and intact.Thats why i got rid of all of it.Do I regret it?A little.But not very much.Would I have regretted it a lot more had I sold just certain things?Yes.
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uniquebaseballcards said:We'll see where you are in a year or two.
sportscardtheory said:
Dude, you don't even know me... I have been buying/selling/collecting sportscards since 1989.
I've been buying and selling cards mixed in with collecting for about 25 years. Let me know when I should become burned out.
This is a tired topic. There's nothing we, the collectors, can do about it. But we, the people who buy and sell rookies cards, long ago figured out that a player's first-year cards are rookie cards, and those from later years simply aren't. Going back to Nomar (92TTr vs. anything later), McGwire (85T vs 87 cards), and Mantle (his 52T card is often labeled a "rookie" card when it clearly isn't by any reasonable definition), the early card is the rookie card. Hell, Lou Piniella was labeled a "rookie" in the 1964, 1968 and 1969 sets, plus his "logo RC" in 1970 with the Topps All-Rookie Team trophy. But would anything but the 64T be considered a rookie?
Furthermore, there is a clear separation these days between what is labeled an RC or not and what things sell for. There are so many cards produced these days that there is a whole range of values for anyone to appreciate. So a certain 2006 card sells for less than a certain 2007 card. So what? There would also be a lot of 2007 cards that sell for less than a given 2006 card. That same player will likely have some kind of card in 2016 that sells for more than the 2007.
And yes, collectors care about the values of their collections. No one likes paying $100 for something one day and seeing it be valued at $1 the next. If the card market ever really did completely crash, everyone would take a hit, if only theoretically. But TRUE collectors would be so stoked to see all the cards they ever wanted so cheap they'd get over their pain in a hurry. I know I would.
This is a tired topic. There's nothing we, the collectors, can do about it. But we, the people who buy and sell rookies cards, long ago figured out that a player's first-year cards are rookie cards, and those from later years simply aren't. Going back to Nomar (92TTr vs. anything later), McGwire (85T vs 87 cards), and Mantle (his 52T card is often labeled a "rookie" card when it clearly isn't by any reasonable definition), the early card is the rookie card. Hell, Lou Piniella was labeled a "rookie" in the 1964, 1968 and 1969 sets, plus his "logo RC" in 1970 with the Topps All-Rookie Team trophy. But would anything but the 64T be considered a rookie?
Furthermore, there is a clear separation these days between what is labeled an RC or not and what things sell for. There are so many cards produced these days that there is a whole range of values for anyone to appreciate. So a certain 2006 card sells for less than a certain 2007 card. So what? There would also be a lot of 2007 cards that sell for less than a given 2006 card. That same player will likely have some kind of card in 2016 that sells for more than the 2007.
And yes, collectors care about the values of their collections. No one likes paying $100 for something one day and seeing it be valued at $1 the next. If the card market ever really did completely crash, everyone would take a hit, if only theoretically. But TRUE collectors would be so stoked to see all the cards they ever wanted so cheap they'd get over their pain in a hurry. I know I would.
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predatorkj said:
Because he doesn't know me or what I enjoy.
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sportscardtheory said:
How do you know? :lol:
I just thought by what he typed that he was giving his own personal opinion based on his own thoughts and experience.Nothing more.I don't think he meant to dteremine for sure anything about you.
As for being able to collect and sell for years...the only way that works for me is if I am selling something I truly picked up to sell in the first place.I do not buy things for my PC to turn around and sell later.My wife has specific instructions should I pass but other than that...I am not looking to move any of it.Nor would I.I don't see the sense in collecting something you actually enjoy just to turn around and get rid of it later.In my mind...why buy it at all?Now if I have a business where I buy things that I intend to sell later on...thats different to me.When I sell things I like to have no personal attachment whatsoever to the item.
