lrcards Out of Business?

[Watt]

I guess I should have learned the first time after the 2008 BDP debacle.. but I purchased a case of 09' Jumbo Topps. He tells me:
hi
these should of shipped today or thursday - however we have just been informed the delivery track from topps to our dist was in an accident -
this will delay the shipment- we were hoping to get an update late today - we now will be updated thursday will keep you posted


His site now says: Due to changes in business conditions we are unable to accept new orders at this time. At this time we are working on filling existing orders or refunding money


And he's no longer registered on ebay, and Paypal said he was unable to respond to a dispute so I had to automatically file a claim... I wonder how many people are getting screwed because of this?


EDIT: Very strange, I went to check the item page and the listing was removed even though Ebay's policy says the item will stay on My Ebay for 60 days...

 

[All The Hype]

I doubt anyone is getting "screwed"...even if he is out of business, he will still refund the money if he cannot complete the orders.

 

[Watt]

Well I said that because paypal wouldn't let him answer in a dispute and automatically made me file a claim, unless that automatically happens if you have a certain amount of cases filed against you? I'm really not sure.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

I doubt anyone is getting "screwed"...even if he is out of business, he will still refund the money if he cannot complete the orders.

Never assume you will be refunded when a business goes down. Never.

One thing to assume is that their a creditors far more important than a consumer...and they have far more power than the average consumer.

This is an ugly time, and it will get uglier.

 

[All The Hype]

I doubt anyone is getting "screwed"...even if he is out of business, he will still refund the money if he cannot complete the orders.

Never assume you will be refunded when a business goes down. Never.

One thing to assume is that their a creditors far more important than a consumer...and they have far more power than the average consumer.

This is an ugly time, and it will get uglier.

Then take the guy to court and sue his ass off. Just because you go out of business doesn't mean you get to steal money from people which is what that would be if he neither completed the transaction nor refunded the money.

In my personal experience with lrcards, he communicated well and seemed to care at least a little bit that I was satisfied with the transaction.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

[quote="ALL_THE_HYPE":2gh7wsdu]I doubt anyone is getting "screwed"...even if he is out of business, he will still refund the money if he cannot complete the orders.

Never assume you will be refunded when a business goes down. Never.

One thing to assume is that their a creditors far more important than a consumer...and they have far more power than the average consumer.

This is an ugly time, and it will get uglier.

Then take the guy to court and sue his ass off. Just because you go out of business doesn't mean you get to steal money from people which is what that would be if he neither completed the transaction nor refunded the money.

In my personal experience with lrcards, he communicated well and seemed to care at least a little bit that I was satisfied with the transaction.[/quote:2gh7wsdu]
Relax. My point is not to assume anything, while you are assuming that the OP's money is safe.

The fact remains, we don't know, and therefore I will always go on the side of caution and logic.

And going out of business doesn't mean you are "stealing" if you don't pay people back. We have no idea of the situation, for all we know, his bank could have seized the business and changed the locks. It's very possible. Few businesses just "up and close" in the middle of transactions for reasons of their own creation.

We have no idea...so don't assume "he will still refund the money if he cannot complete the orders."

 

[xcantgobackx]

I hope he's not out of business. I've had nothing but positive transactions with him in the past.

 

[Wes]

This is a bummer - I've bought many a case from Larry and his customer service was always top notch. Seemed like a nice guy.

 

[Watt]

I didn't even realize... the price of Jumbo Cases is now $150 more than what I paid for this one. So that really doesn't help.

 

[theplasticman]

This is a bummer - I've bought many a case from Larry and his customer service was always top notch. Seemed like a nice guy.

same here

 

[F-Topps]

Didnt see that coming...LOL

 

[mrmem]

For what its worth my distributors aslo advised me that there a problem with a Topps truck being in an accident as none of the dirtributors here in the NY area received there cases. Which probably adds to the prices of cases being as high as they are right now,

 

[allstarauction]

I have always had top notch service from LRCards... Sad to see the economy tearing down businesses like it is...

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Of note, a poor economy never tears down a well run company.

Poor management, bad business models and a lack of preparedness cause companies to close down in a poor economy.

 

[allstarauction]

Of note, a poor economy never tears down a well run company.

Poor management, bad business models and a lack of preparedness cause companies to close down in a poor economy.

Don't agree at all with the statement but its not the place to debate it.

 

[200lbhockeyplayer]

Of note, a poor economy never tears down a well run company.

Poor management, bad business models and a lack of preparedness cause companies to close down in a poor economy.

Don't agree at all with the statement but its not the place to debate it.

I'd love to see one example showing a well run, well managed and well prepared company that failed due to a poor economy.

Not asking for a list...one will suffice.

 

[[email protected]]

Of note, a poor economy never tears down a well run company.

Poor management, bad business models and a lack of preparedness cause companies to close down in a poor economy.

Don't agree at all with the statement but its not the place to debate it.

I'd love to see one example showing a well run, well managed and well prepared company that failed due to a poor economy.

Not asking for a list...one will suffice.

I would be willing to say that their were companies that fit your criteria, that failed in a good economy.

 

[KandKCards]

Of note, a poor economy never tears down a well run company.

Poor management, bad business models and a lack of preparedness cause companies to close down in a poor economy.

Don't agree at all with the statement but its not the place to debate it.

I'd love to see one example showing a well run, well managed and well prepared company that failed due to a poor economy.

Not asking for a list...one will suffice.

I would be willing to say that their were companies that fit your criteria, that failed in a good economy.

I would agree.
Starbucks is generally known as a well run company, and although they haven't failed, they have gotten slammed in the past year and a half or so.
There is no such thing is a perfectly run company. Lrcards, if he goes out, is DEFINITELY the fault of the economy and not himself.

 

[bigpops65]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents: I have four cases on order from Larry that I placed last week and were supposed to arrive by tomorrow (Tuesday). I got an email late Friday saying that they couldn't accept new customers and were going to either refund money or complete the orders that were placed. I responded to that email and haven't heard back.

I am also disappointed because I went with Larry, now the other people I can get 09 Topps from are significantly higher.

 

[card-treasury]

Starbucks is "known" as a well-run company, but they are closing stores everyday at an alarming rate and are also being sued by everyone, including their own employees.

For the lrcards debacle, I warned everyone of this last year with Larry. I hope the people that read my thread believed me and listened to what I said. I feel bad for those you who did not see that thread, and I hope you are reimbursed. For those you who ignored me and thought you knew better, I still hope you get your money back.

I never "bad-mouth" anyone. If I have something negative to say about someone, I keep it to myself. In the lrcards instance, I made a post to warn others so they were not in this situation.

I got my money back only after cops went to Larry's house for me.

I used Larry exclusively for all of my case purchases (over 200 cases) from 1999 through 2006. I always raved about him and his service. Then the bottom fell out. By the way, when the cops went to Larry's house to retrieve my money, his house was for sale. Take it for what it's worth.

That was either last year or two years ago.