Major eBay auction seller selling a fake patch?

[mlbsalltimegreats]

I believe prewar has the same clout at probstien so more than likely not going to get taken down, these big seller rule ebay.

 

[A_Pharis]

PSA grades/authenticates the card - not necessarily the material. It'd be nice, but I can see how it'd be nearly impossible for them to verify material on every card.

 

[Matsuicollector]

This is their "Auction Integrity" section on their listing

"Auction integrity is our #1 priority. Collectors deserve an auction forum they can trust. The sportscard hobby hinges on the honesty and integrity of the seller. Too often we hear of fraud and other manipulation that serves to undermine the integrity of our hobby. Bidders deserve better, where bidding is 100% legitimate and uninfluenced by manipulations such as fraudulent (shill) bidding by the auction house, consignors, friends of consignors, friends of the auction house, or anyone else who participates insincerely with the sole intention of manipulating the sale price. We do NOT permit shill bidding of any kind and actively police our auctions to prevent such acts from occurring. If we learn that a bidder is questionable, we take action in the form of canceling the bid and blocking a bidder from participating in future auctions. To preserve the integrity of the bidding process, we believe that eBay is the best forum to host auctions due to the privacy of the eBay platform. Unlike proprietary auction software, eBay's platform is equally transparent to both the buyer and the seller. We don't know the value of a bidder's max bid, nor do our consignors, or anyone else. We've spent the last 15 years on eBay (since 1998) working to garner the trust of collectors and the hobby at large. Rest assured that you can trust our service and can participate in our auctions with the confidence that integrity is our #1 priority."

I know it's in relation to shill bidding, but I would think their "honesty" and "integrity" would apply to all aspects of their sales. Either "FAKE" should be listed in the title and rewritten throughout the auction description, or the auction should be taken down as the card itself is fraudulent.

 

[TNP777]

What the heck. I sent PWCC a note.

Hello there. I'm sure you know by now that this card is being discussed on multiple hobby forums. I have seen that your response to one person was, "We have to agree with PSA as they have authenticated the card. Please bid cautiously if you doubt the card. Thank you very much."

Please reconsider your stance. PSA only grades the card, not the authenticity of the relic in the card. You've been in business long enough to know that. If that's not enough for you, all you have to do is read the back of the card. It says, "On the front of this card is an over-sized relic from PANTS (emphasis mine) worn by Bernie Williams..."

How many patches are worn on pants in the major leagues? You and I both know that the answer is 0.

Your Auction Integrity statement reads in part, "The sportscard hobby hinges on the honesty and integrity of the seller. Too often we hear of fraud and other manipulation that serves to undermine the integrity of our hobby. Bidders deserve better..."

Thank you.

 

[SlackRabbit]

What the heck. I sent PWCC a note.

i did as well. here is the response i got:

Hello,

This card is a fake, please bid accordingly.

Best Regards,

PWCC Auctions, LLC
3 Monroe Parkway Suite P, #601
Lake Oswego, OR 97035
eBay id: prewarcardcollector
website: www.pwccauctions.com
phone: 510-725-XXXX

 

[TNP777]

Looks like the auction has been pulled - item no longer available.

 

[SlackRabbit]

Looks like the auction has been pulled - item no longer available.

guess he got tired of being questioned. chalk one up for the good guys!