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jeff550 said:
Erich said:
Any ides where this card is? It is not on the list from Beckett.

2006 DP35 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Refractors Dustin Richardson

that makes 5 cards that did not show up. beckett needs to address this issue for chris already did address the isshue with me

Add 2 to mine, but I'm sure they'll turn up.
 

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Penno said:
jeff550 said:
Erich said:
Any ides where this card is? It is not on the list from Beckett.

2006 DP35 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Refractors Dustin Richardson

that makes 5 cards that did not show up. beckett needs to address this issue for chris already did address the isshue with me

Add 2 to mine, but I'm sure they'll turn up.

now where up to seven i hope beckett just forgot to add them to the list
 

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I'll have to check the subs when I get home, but I wonder what killed the grade on the Robinson.
 

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6145597 1997 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 2 Tony Clark 9.5
6145423 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Red Tony Clark 8.5 *surface was 8
6145422 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Gold Tony Clark 9.5 *surface was 9, still trying to figure out that one
6145421 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Blue Tony Clark 8.5 *surface was 8
6145420 1999 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 2 Tony Clark 9.0
6145599 1999 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 3 Tony Clark 9.0 *surface was 8.5

Yikes. I knew the Mirror Red/Blue had refractor lines but still a little surprised on the 2 9.0s for the Legacy Collection. Guess I need to start cleaning the surfaces a little better, but I did the bet I could as I did with the last submission.

Thanks again Chris, if it wasn't for the Beckett deal, I don't think I would have a single graded card in my collection.
 

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Philip J. Fry said:
6145597 1997 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 2 Tony Clark 9.5
6145423 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Red Tony Clark 8.5 *surface was 8
6145422 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Gold Tony Clark 9.5 *surface was 9, still trying to figure out that one
6145421 1997 Pinnacle Certified Mirror Blue Tony Clark 8.5 *surface was 8
6145420 1999 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 2 Tony Clark 9.0
6145599 1999 Flair Showcase Legacy Collection Row 3 Tony Clark 9.0 *surface was 8.5

Yikes. I knew the Mirror Red/Blue had refractor lines but still a little surprised on the 2 9.0s for the Legacy Collection. Guess I need to start cleaning the surfaces a little better, but I did the bet I could as I did with the last submission.

Thanks again Chris, if it wasn't for the Beckett deal, I don't think I would have a single graded card in my collection.

Ya, surface likked me too.
 

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Xavier Avery Xfractor 9.5
Kunz Blue Ref 9.5
Fernando Martinez Gold Ref 9.5
Nick Evans 9.0

Good sub for me.... but dissapointed on that 9.0. Thought that card out of all had the best chance at a 9.5
 

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6145155 2008-09 SP Authentic Kyle Turris FW AU 8.5 Centering Corners Edges Surfaces
9.5 9 9.5 8

6145151 2008-09 SP Authentic Michael Frolik FW AU 9.0 Centering Corners Edges Surfaces
9.5 8.5 9 9.5

6145148 2008-09 SP Authentic Limited Patches Andreas Nodl 8.5 Centering Corners Edges urfaces
10 8 8.5 9



I don't even know how the Turris and Frolik are not 9.5s.....I think the patch got the grade it deserved cause I saw a small ding in the corner....but I was so sure the Turris is at least a 9.0 or above....The Surface killed the Turris!
 

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How do they determine the overall grade??

Cause for my Kyle Turris, 9.5+9+9.5+8=36 and when you divide that by 4, it's 9....
 

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Canucksfan1812 said:
How do they determine the overall grade??

Cause for my Kyle Turris, 9.5+9+9.5+8=36 and when you divide that by 4, it's 9....

How Final Grades are Determined


Here is how we do it!
The overall numerical grade is not a simple average of the four report card grades. Beckett Grading Services uses an algorithm which determines the final grade using the 4 sub grades on the front label of the card holder. The lowest overall grade is the first category to observe because it is the most obvious defect, and the lowest grade is the most heavily weighted in determining the overall grade.

Example:

Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 9
Surface = 8
Final grade = 8.5


The reason that this card received an 8.5 is that even though the Surface grade was an 8 (the lowest grade overall), the 9.5 grades on Centering and Corners were strong enough to bring it up a full point to reach the 8.5 level.

Another example:

Centering = 9.5
Corners = 9.5
Edges = 8.5
Surface = 9
Final grade = 9


Upon first glance, it may appear that this card should've received a grade different than a 9. The most this card could receive was .5 (or one-half grade) above the lowest sub-grade. The Edges were the lowest in this case, hence, the card received the overall 9 grade. Even though Centering and Corners received grades of 9.5, a key point to remember is that the minimum requirement to receive a grade of Gem Mint is to have at least three grades of 9.5 and the fourth to be no less than a 9.

Also, please note that the final grade rarely, if ever, exceeds two levels above the lowest of the four characteristic grades. For example, if a card has characteristic grades of Centering 10, Corners 6, Edges 10 and Surface 10, the final grade will be a "7" (of which is exactly two grading levels above the lowest characteristic grade).
 

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what the hell, all of mine are missing too. please let me know what happened here. Here is what I submitted

2002 #96 Upper Deck Prospect Premiers autograph B.J. Upton
2006 BSP-JU Bowman Sterling refractor autograph Justin Upton #055/199 5052467
2006 BS-CH Bowman Sterling jersey autograph Cole Hamels 3678927
2007 #123 Donruss Elite Extra Edition aspirations autograph Mike Moustakas #066/100
2007 #144 Donruss Elite Extra Edition autograph Chris Davis #244/374
2008 AU-TB Razor Metal autograph Tim Beckham
2008 AU-TB Razor Metal autograph Tim Beckham
2008 AU-MI Razor Metal autograph Michel Inoa
 

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Looks like all mine are there. How do you find out what the Sub Grades are??

I am very pleased.. Not to bad for my first time ever getting something graded.. Cant wait to get these in hand..

Thanks again Chris..


6145324 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks David Price 9.5
6145426 1990 Leaf Frank Thomas 9.5
6145382 2008 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Zach Collier AU 9.5
6145145 1998-99 Stadium Club Mike Bibby 9.5
6145323 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5
6145322 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5

6145321 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.0
6145435 2006 Bowman Heritage Signs of Greatness Cameron Maybin B 9.0
 

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jmc280zx said:
Looks like all mine are there. How do you find out what the Sub Grades are??

I am very pleased.. Not to bad for my first time ever getting something graded.. Cant wait to get these in hand..

Thanks again Chris..


6145324 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks David Price 9.5
6145426 1990 Leaf Frank Thomas 9.5
6145382 2008 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Zach Collier AU 9.5
6145145 1998-99 Stadium Club Mike Bibby 9.5
6145323 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5
6145322 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5

6145321 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.0
6145435 2006 Bowman Heritage Signs of Greatness Cameron Maybin B 9.0

first time?? u did really well
 

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jmc280zx said:
Looks like all mine are there. How do you find out what the Sub Grades are??

I am very pleased.. Not to bad for my first time ever getting something graded.. Cant wait to get these in hand..

Thanks again Chris..


6145324 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks David Price 9.5
6145426 1990 Leaf Frank Thomas 9.5
6145382 2008 Bowman Chrome Draft Prospects Zach Collier AU 9.5
6145145 1998-99 Stadium Club Mike Bibby 9.5
6145323 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5
6145322 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.5

6145321 2007 Bowman Chrome Draft Draft Picks Blue Refractors Michael Taylor 9.0
6145435 2006 Bowman Heritage Signs of Greatness Cameron Maybin B 9.0
To find out subs, go here and put in the 7 digit number at the left of the card above.

http://www.beckett.com/grading/lookup.asp?
 

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jeff550 said:
where up to 15 cards missing. stupid beckett screwed up again


i doubt it


its way too early to say that

let me get them in hand first

also, if there is something wrong its just as likely my fault as it is theirs
 

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cgilmo said:
jeff550 said:
where up to 15 cards missing. stupid beckett screwed up again


i doubt it


its way too early to say that

let me get them in hand first

also, if there is something wrong its just as likely my fault as it is theirs
did you keep a copy of the submmison form
 

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jeff550 said:
cgilmo said:
jeff550 said:
where up to 15 cards missing. stupid beckett screwed up again


i doubt it


its way too early to say that

let me get them in hand first

also, if there is something wrong its just as likely my fault as it is theirs
did you keep a copy of the submmison form

submission forms aren't used with this type of sub


the process is totally different



If there is a problem, we will make it right.
 

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cgilmo said:
jeff550 said:
cgilmo said:
jeff550 said:
where up to 15 cards missing. stupid beckett screwed up again


i doubt it


its way too early to say that

let me get them in hand first

also, if there is something wrong its just as likely my fault as it is theirs
did you keep a copy of the submmison form

submission forms aren't used with this type of sub


the process is totally different



If there is a problem, we will make it right.
chris i know you will get this right. i am just trying to make things easier for you. sence submison forms arent used do you have any type or record of the submision to prove you sent the cards in if they dont show up in the mail. heres another though maybe beckett put the missing cards with the june sub. about when do you expect to get the cards back from beckett.

thank you so much for all the work you do for the members of this site
 

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