Mike Newman Top 30 Prospects

[Huffamaniac]

That was my first thought when I saw him make the lsit

Is anyone else sick of seeing Fernando Martinez on these lists?

And the guy is still only like 22!

 

[jbone17]

I think Montero is a better hitter than Posey and people dig hitters over better defense. Posey is a monster, but Jesus is a Yankee prospect as well. I dig both of them.

I'll agree montero is a better hitter, but not by much. Posey had a very impressive season, and was able to maintain taht average and power at AAA.

His defense (and defensive tools) are way better than Monteros, not even close, thus overall I think he's a stronger CATCHING Prospect. If purely based on hitting/offense- I would put Montero over posey, but not by much.

Yes sir. I know for a fact that Posey has better D than Jesus. That is why I purely said offense lol. :lol:

 

[Wes]

Is anyone else sick of seeing Fernando Martinez on these lists?

And the guy is still only like 22!

I was just about to say that. I would take every other guy in this top 30 over him.

 

[All The Hype]

i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

I'll take Montero or Santana over Posey any day of the week. Posey may be the best athlete and maybe the best defensive catcher of the three, but he has the weakest bat of the three by quite a bit. And at a position like catcher where being able to hit makes you FAR more valuable, the bats of the other two make them better prospects, even if they aren't as solid defensively.

 

[All The Hype]

Logan Morrison at 29 is a joke, guy is easily top 20 and probably top 10. I think pretty highly of Matt Moore so I think he should be a little higher as well, but we'll see how he does this year. Rondon is too high and I don't think Chapman belongs on the list at this point in time.

 

[Brett Keith]

i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

Have no problem with Santana over Posey, he's the only catcher I see ahead of him on this list.

Chris Carter is the only one on the list that has a legit shot at 40 HR in the bigs? Not Stanton? Montero? Alvarez? Smoak?

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors.

Disagree with you there. He's got power, he's got plate discipline, but not much defense or a throwing arm. And can't run. Top 10 prospects should possess these skills.

I personally think they ranked him just right.

If this is the case then Taylor should be in the top 15.

EXACTLY! I'm glad I read through the entire thread before posting as my post would've looked like I was copying your's (as I read JP's response I immediately thought: "Well Taylor has power, plate discipline, has a great throwing arm & is outstanding in terms of defense in the OF, & has good speed on the basepath's!"- This is why Taylor should be #1 over Carter on BA's list, that is, if they evaluated Taylor in the same light as they do thier "favorite's").

In term's of this list, while I respect other's opinion's when discussin prospect's, I immediately discounted this list as someone who was trying to create discussion (alot of these site's list's will look "off" because they want to inspire discussion & response to thier piece).

 

[Wes]

Logan Morrison at 29 is a joke, guy is easily top 20 and probably top 10. I think pretty highly of Matt Moore so I think he should be a little higher as well, but we'll see how he does this year. Rondon is too high and I don't think Chapman belongs on the list at this point in time.

How does Chapman not belong on the list? If there were a draft of all prospects there is no question he's in the top 30.

 

[darocker80]

i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

Have no problem with Santana over Posey, he's the only catcher I see ahead of him on this list.

Chris Carter is the only one on the list that has a legit shot at 40 HR in the bigs? Not Stanton? Montero? Alvarez? Smoak?

Maybe Stanton, that's it, but doesn't have the greatest plate disipline. Alvarez I am not completley sold on. Maybe 30-35?

 

[Brett Keith]

i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

Have no problem with Santana over Posey, he's the only catcher I see ahead of him on this list.

Chris Carter is the only one on the list that has a legit shot at 40 HR in the bigs? Not Stanton? Montero? Alvarez? Smoak?

Maybe Stanton, that's it, but doesn't have the greatest plate disipline. Alvarez I am not completley sold on. Maybe 30-35?

He doesn't have the greatest plate discipline? Neither does Carter

Stanton and Carter both hit 39 HR's in '08, both hit 28 last season. In '08 Stanton had a K/BB ratio of 153/58 in 125 games, Carter 156/77 in 137 games. Last season, Stanton 144/59 in 129 games, Carter 133/85 in 138 games. Stanton has done all of this being three years younger, in his first two full seasons, both as a teenager.

 

[jbone17]

[quote="Brett Keith":17f8geyc]

i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

Have no problem with Santana over Posey, he's the only catcher I see ahead of him on this list.

Chris Carter is the only one on the list that has a legit shot at 40 HR in the bigs? Not Stanton? Montero? Alvarez? Smoak?

Maybe Stanton, that's it, but doesn't have the greatest plate disipline. Alvarez I am not completley sold on. Maybe 30-35?

He doesn't have the greatest plate discipline? Neither does Carter

Stanton and Carter both hit 39 HR's in '08, both hit 28 last season. In '08 Stanton had a K/BB ratio of 153/58 in 125 games, Carter 156/77 in 137 games. Last season, Stanton 144/59 in 129 games, Carter 133/85 in 138 games. Stanton has done all of this being three years younger, in his first two full seasons, both as a teenager.[/quote:17f8geyc]

If Stanton fills out more, he will whoop Carter no problem.

 

[darocker80]

[quote="Brett Keith":24gb0dux]

[quote="darocker80":24gb0dux]i can't take this list seriously....and strasburg not at #1....

Heyward has proven himself though. You are saying that Stras should be number one? They have it right.

F-mart at 16....posey not the top catcher? 2 catchers in front, when almost every other prospecting site says he's the best OVERALL catcher.

no Chris Carter in the top 10 is an absolute joke, he is the only one on the list that legitly has a chance of 40 Hr in the majors, Jhoulys Chacin is solid, but not top 30 solid and doesn't have nasty stuff. Michael Taylor no where to be seen?
Desmond jennings is very good, but I would put Stanton over him.

I do like Chapmans place though. Middle of the pack.

Have no problem with Santana over Posey, he's the only catcher I see ahead of him on this list.

Chris Carter is the only one on the list that has a legit shot at 40 HR in the bigs? Not Stanton? Montero? Alvarez? Smoak?

Maybe Stanton, that's it, but doesn't have the greatest plate disipline. Alvarez I am not completley sold on. Maybe 30-35?

He doesn't have the greatest plate discipline? Neither does Carter

Stanton and Carter both hit 39 HR's in '08, both hit 28 last season. In '08 Stanton had a K/BB ratio of 153/58 in 125 games, Carter 156/77 in 137 games. Last season, Stanton 144/59 in 129 games, Carter 133/85 in 138 games. Stanton has done all of this being three years younger, in his first two full seasons, both as a teenager.[/quote:24gb0dux]

If Stanton fills out more, he will whoop Carter no problem. [/quote:24gb0dux]
CArter has a better BA, OBP and OPS