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jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol
 

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cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol

Hey i am just letting you know that I bought a Gold Ref Auto a little after release for 135 and then sold it like a month ago for 400. No but your right he is a good player but I do not think he should be as hyped as he is. There are plenty of prospects that are better.
 

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Snider was the No. 14 overall pick in 2006 who made the Major Leagues at 20 - not an unreasonable path for Trout's career to take.

cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol
 

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Trout should be hyped but not as much as he is. But he is doing good in the class he is at right now. Wouldn't surprise me to see him in AA by the end of the season. Also if you like trout give jay austin a look. Similar to trout his AVG isn't that high. He actually has more SB's and HR's than trout too.

Austin isn't on the same level as Trout. Not even near it actually. Between two levels, Mike has the same amount of HR's and steals as Austin, so that argument is moot. Austin stunk it up in A ball as an 18/19 year old, whereas Trout destroyed the league at 18.

And to the poster thinking Mike will lose half his speed, I don't think there is any chance of that happening. Out of curiosity though, what do you base that thought on?
Jay Austin is very very similar. He's also very toolsy. Give him time he is only 19. I'm not saying austin is better its just that for the price point austin is at he is worth picking up. since he is similar to trout.

Oh boy ::facepalm::
 

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cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol

Snider a nobody? He put up great numbers '06-'07 at Trouts age (better than trout). Trouts uber over-hyped right now. He'll eventually lose steam if the power numbers don't increase (which they could). Right now is the time to sell Trout. All feel bad we didn't invest? lol..your gonna feel bad if ya don't dump some of his stuff before it eventually drops. I would take Travis Snider over Trout.
 

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AKA Coastal said:
cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol

Snider a nobody? He put up great numbers '06-'07 at Trouts age (better than trout). Trouts uber over-hyped right now. He'll eventually lose steam if the power numbers don't increase (which they could). Right now is the time to sell Trout. All feel bad we didn't invest? lol..your gonna feel bad if ya don't dump some of his stuff before it eventually drops. I would take Travis Snider over Trout.

His power needs to go up if he wants to be nearly as good as Snider.
 

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cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol

Listen, I bought in cheap too. Yes, I still have a ref auto incoming in trade, but I also agree that he is WAY overhyped. Yes, I'm glad I can use that excessive hype to make money, but he is overhyped.

To add one thing though: Is he overhyped for the ceiling he has? No. Is he overhyped for his current performance? Probably, yes. THAT's why I say yes.
 

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AKA Coastal said:
cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol

Snider a nobody? He put up great numbers '06-'07 at Trouts age (better than trout). Trouts uber over-hyped right now. He'll eventually lose steam if the power numbers don't increase (which they could). Right now is the time to sell Trout. All feel bad we didn't invest? lol..your gonna feel bad if ya don't dump some of his stuff before it eventually drops. I would take Travis Snider over Trout.
This. Snider is going to be a beast once Cito is gone and he gets consistent playing time. Injuries have really hampered him, but he is only 22 and has done pretty well in his return this year.
 

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Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)
 

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darocker80 said:
Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)

It will not get any easier. His numbers have dropped in every category except his HR rate (1:13.5games to 1:10games), then again it is the CAL with thin air and band box fields so forget the "see his power is coming on". Some said his base stealing was a game changer (not any more). So many on here say because he is young not to worry, then again most of them have a invested interest in him so they need to say that. I would side with time is on his side because of his age (I only have 2 cards :) ) and the Angels just need to relax and not rush him, they have plenty of time to bring him up... plenty. Let him fight through aA and say if he can replicate the damage he did in A ball. Even if he can that is still not the sign that he is "all that" because it is the CAL. Next year maybe AA then you will get an idea what he really is made of.
 

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loftlife said:
darocker80 said:
Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)

It will not get any easier. His numbers have dropped in every category except his HR rate (1:13.5games to 1:10games), then again it is the CAL with thin air and band box fields so forget the "see his power is coming on". Some said his base stealing was a game changer (not any more). So many on here say because he is young not to worry, then again most of them have a invested interest in him so they need to say that. I would side with time is on his side because of his age (I only have 2 cards :) ) and the Angels just need to relax and not rush him, they have plenty of time to bring him up... plenty. Let him fight through aA and say if he can replicate the damage he did in A ball. Even if he can that is still not the sign that he is "all that" because it is the CAL. Next year maybe AA then you will get an idea what he really is made of.

How is his speed NOT a game changer? Because he only has 4 steals so far in High A? That's terrible reasoning if that is what you're basing your logic on. How often do you see players get doubles on ground balls up the middle? Well, Mike did that just yesterday. He is one of the youngest players in the league, and is holding his own quite well to this point I'd say. Wait until he fully adjusts and gets hot, then you'll be seeing the .330+ average come right back.
 

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How quickly people forget. He struggled quite a bit more noticeably this past April in Low A. Then, someone lit a fire under him.

The fire will return.
 

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cjb9421 said:
jrinne said:
After watching Trout play in the MWL I would compare him to Travis Snider.


YUCK ::facepalm::

-Trout is 18 maybe 19 years old people and look what he has already shown.

-How can you compare him to Travis Snider, he's a nobody.

-Over hyped??? Who else is there to talk about? You all just feel bad you didnt invest at the right time so you all have to try and "cool" him down lol
biased.
 

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jondawg04 said:
loftlife said:
darocker80 said:
Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)

It will not get any easier. His numbers have dropped in every category except his HR rate (1:13.5games to 1:10games), then again it is the CAL with thin air and band box fields so forget the "see his power is coming on". Some said his base stealing was a game changer (not any more). So many on here say because he is young not to worry, then again most of them have a invested interest in him so they need to say that. I would side with time is on his side because of his age (I only have 2 cards :) ) and the Angels just need to relax and not rush him, they have plenty of time to bring him up... plenty. Let him fight through aA and say if he can replicate the damage he did in A ball. Even if he can that is still not the sign that he is "all that" because it is the CAL. Next year maybe AA then you will get an idea what he really is made of.

How is his speed NOT a game changer? Because he only has 4 steals so far in High A? That's terrible reasoning if that is what you're basing your logic on. How often do you see players get doubles on ground balls up the middle? Well, Mike did that just yesterday. He is one of the youngest players in the league, and is holding his own quite well to this point I'd say. Wait until he fully adjusts and gets hot, then you'll be seeing the .330+ average come right back.


How is that terrible reasoning? Like saying his 4SB and 3CS is something to rave about? What he did in A ball no longer matters, does it? What he did in A ball will not factor into anything except prospecting. Trout is being graded on what he is doing now, and that determines where and how fast he moves up in the ranks, just like any other player. With that said his base stealing as of now is far from game changing... simple fact. Can he turn it around? Oh hell yeah... he can also not get any better or get worse.

Time will tell... it always does.

BTW, I hope his avg does pop back up and he gets even hotter then he was in aA, I would like to move the only 2 autos I have of him for a tidy profit :)
 

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loftlife said:
jondawg04 said:
loftlife said:
darocker80 said:
Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)

It will not get any easier. His numbers have dropped in every category except his HR rate (1:13.5games to 1:10games), then again it is the CAL with thin air and band box fields so forget the "see his power is coming on". Some said his base stealing was a game changer (not any more). So many on here say because he is young not to worry, then again most of them have a invested interest in him so they need to say that. I would side with time is on his side because of his age (I only have 2 cards :) ) and the Angels just need to relax and not rush him, they have plenty of time to bring him up... plenty. Let him fight through aA and say if he can replicate the damage he did in A ball. Even if he can that is still not the sign that he is "all that" because it is the CAL. Next year maybe AA then you will get an idea what he really is made of.

How is his speed NOT a game changer? Because he only has 4 steals so far in High A? That's terrible reasoning if that is what you're basing your logic on. How often do you see players get doubles on ground balls up the middle? Well, Mike did that just yesterday. He is one of the youngest players in the league, and is holding his own quite well to this point I'd say. Wait until he fully adjusts and gets hot, then you'll be seeing the .330+ average come right back.


How is that terrible reasoning? Like saying his 4SB and 3CS is something to rave about? What he did in A ball no longer matters, does it? What he did in A ball will not factor into anything except prospecting. Trout is being graded on what he is doing now, and that determines where and how fast he moves up in the ranks, just like any other player. With that said his base stealing as of now is far from game changing... simple fact. Can he turn it around? Oh hell yeah... he can also not get any better or get worse.

Time will tell... it always does.

BTW, I hope his avg does pop back up and he gets even hotter then he was in aA, I would like to move the only 2 autos I have of him for a tidy profit :)

well, he just turned 19 today and is doing fairly well against competition which is 3-4 years older in most cases. even if you wiped out his low A performance, hitting .291 as a 19 year old in high A is nothing to scoff at.
 

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loftlife said:
jondawg04 said:
loftlife said:
darocker80 said:
Mike Trout is very talented, but top 5 best prospect, i dont think so imo. Would love to see how he does at the next level (possibly late call up or next year?)

It will not get any easier. His numbers have dropped in every category except his HR rate (1:13.5games to 1:10games), then again it is the CAL with thin air and band box fields so forget the "see his power is coming on". Some said his base stealing was a game changer (not any more). So many on here say because he is young not to worry, then again most of them have a invested interest in him so they need to say that. I would side with time is on his side because of his age (I only have 2 cards :) ) and the Angels just need to relax and not rush him, they have plenty of time to bring him up... plenty. Let him fight through aA and say if he can replicate the damage he did in A ball. Even if he can that is still not the sign that he is "all that" because it is the CAL. Next year maybe AA then you will get an idea what he really is made of.

How is his speed NOT a game changer? Because he only has 4 steals so far in High A? That's terrible reasoning if that is what you're basing your logic on. How often do you see players get doubles on ground balls up the middle? Well, Mike did that just yesterday. He is one of the youngest players in the league, and is holding his own quite well to this point I'd say. Wait until he fully adjusts and gets hot, then you'll be seeing the .330+ average come right back.


How is that terrible reasoning? Like saying his 4SB and 3CS is something to rave about? What he did in A ball no longer matters, does it? What he did in A ball will not factor into anything except prospecting. Trout is being graded on what he is doing now, and that determines where and how fast he moves up in the ranks, just like any other player. With that said his base stealing as of now is far from game changing... simple fact. Can he turn it around? Oh hell yeah... he can also not get any better or get worse.

Time will tell... it always does.

BTW, I hope his avg does pop back up and he gets even hotter then he was in aA, I would like to move the only 2 autos I have of him for a tidy profit :)

You must be new to this. What he has done in the past greatly affects his status as a prospect. And why is everyone jumping off the cliff? I don't see anything wrong with Trout, unless I'm completely blind. He's batting .291 even despite a sub par July. That makes sense, let's throw in the towel on a teenager who has amassed a wopping 21 games in high A and is batting .291. The sample size is so small that Trout could raise his "mediocre" batting average up to .320-.330 in one game :benson: I sense a vendetta a brewin.

To answer the question, uh, no.
 

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Wow. Some of you guys are so incredibly fickle.

First off, comparing the kid to Travis Snider, is interesting. Whoever said Snider is a nobody and the comparison is idiotic is an absolute moron. Careers can take an infinite number of paths but let's not forget that Snider was the 6th best prospect coming into 2009 and 11th in 2008? Snider ALMOST has a season under his belt. The Blue Jays called him up in 2008 and the kid has 140 Games and 504 plate appearances. Rasmus got that the first year he was called up and it took Carlos Gonzalez a little over a year. Let's not call Snider a nobody because the Blue Jays don't know how to handle prospects.

When you say stuff like that, you make yourself look like you haven't read baseball america or followed box scores for more than a few months.

When it comes to Mike Trout, he's PLAYED 21 GAMES AT HIGH A! Do you know the statistical variation and margin of error that you're dealing with in 21 GAMES? To have 95% confidence in his .291 average, you'd have to have something like .191 to .391. Yes, I'm 95% confident that Mike Trout is somewhere between a .180 and .391 hitter.

When people say absolutely moron stuff, it makes me think that they're either

A) Wanting to BUY Trout and bitching on message boards hoping to lower the price a couple bucks

or

B) Completely ignorant

I really hope it's A and you're just being a dick.
 

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