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beefycheddar said:
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[quote="Joshua.Roundtree":vu4qvfrx]You guys have Josh Sale as a Top 50 Prospect? ::facepalm::

Keep drinking the Kool Aid guys....

Not a chance in the world that he is a top 50 prospect. Zip, Zero, Zilch.

skrip

Why? Raw power, good plate discipline, very young and projectable.

Brett Jackson made it and he doesn't have/project to above average power OR plate discipline.

The list was made by MLB scouts, Sale has zero pro experience where as Jackson does, he also has college, and Cape League experience. He isn't totally projection. He hit almost .300 overall last year in Minors.

You make a great point in your first sentence that I completely overlooked.

That being said, Ben Revere hit .305 in 2010 in the MiLB. I know, apples to oranges, but average isn't everything.

But thank you, for providing the reason for my ignorance in a nonchalant way. I kinda feel dumb now. ::facepalm::

Don't feel dumb, I think everyone takes these lists way too personally. The MLB Network one gets dumped on a lot, but it is legit scouts who earn their living watching baseball that make the list. Emotion and investment in cards I think weights far too heavily on here in people's reactions.[/quote:vu4qvfrx]

I agree, but the only reason I have a card is that it was a chrome auto for half of ebay value, so i bought it. Then I looked up his scouting reports and I must say, he looks like a stud (no ****).

I'm not swayed by that piddly investment. I just honestly think he's good, but like you said it's mlb scouts ranking primarily on performance so any argument for a guy like Sale is moot as it pertains to this particular list.
 

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Joshua.Roundtree said:
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[quote="Joshua.Roundtree":b1qapuo0]
bballcardkid said:
ballerskrip said:
[quote="Joshua.Roundtree":b1qapuo0]You guys have Josh Sale as a Top 50 Prospect? ::facepalm::

Keep drinking the Kool Aid guys....

Not a chance in the world that he is a top 50 prospect. Zip, Zero, Zilch.

skrip

He would definately be in mine.

And you are?

Someone who continuously makes you look like an idiot, unfortunatley for you.[/quote:b1qapuo0]

Really? Maybe you should read the posts.[/quote:b1qapuo0]

I've never seen someone who gets so butt hurt when someone else disagrees with them in my life. You offer a condescending opinion directed at JP accompanied with a face palm, I offer my opinion and then explain why your logical justification is ass backwards, then you go ape **** asking who am to offer such an opinion, and if anyone buys any of my books (if your really that interested, I could jot down some prospecting tips for you. Also, last time I checked, there isn't a Joshua.Roundtree Guide to Prospecting book floating around at my local book store yet I don't give you hell for you opinions on here). I don't get it. Is that not what happened? I hope you really don't get this bent out of shape when everyone in your life disagrees with you. Damn, that would be lonely. And please, quit stalking me, or I will continue to make you look like a moron every time you reply.
 

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Still not sure where you made me look like an idiot. I'm actually shocked this hasn't turned into a pimp Jesus Montero thread, this site sure could use another one of those. Isn't that what you are primarily here to do? Pimp your guys to sell your cards?
 

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Joshua.Roundtree said:
Still not sure where you made me look like an idiot. I'm actually shocked this hasn't turned into a pimp Jesus Montero thread, this site sure could use another one of those. Isn't that what you are primarily here to do? Pimp your guys to sell your cards?

That's your comeback? Geesh. FTW, I own cards of a few more guys than Montero. Thanks for confirming your stalking habbits though.
 

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Joshua.Roundtree said:
Still not sure where you made me look like an idiot. I'm actually shocked this hasn't turned into a pimp Jesus Montero thread, this site sure could use another one of those. Isn't that what you are primarily here to do? Pimp your guys to sell your cards?

From what I've seen, that is far from the case.

For the last handful of months, he has continuously said to buy, buy, buy Mike Trout. Was that "pimping his guys"? I would say that was advising others to "see the light" so to say. I don't see him pimping his guys on here one bit-but I don't read all the threads, either.

I have a big Montero stash-and this list doesn't worry me one bit. He will be a top 5 prospect by BA, which carries a ton more wait than this list. Either way, whatever Montero is ranked isn't going to be the driver of his stuff-it will be how he does in ST. Montero at 9, in my opinion, is a joke. But, that's just me.
 

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hail2thevictors said:
Joshua.Roundtree said:
Still not sure where you made me look like an idiot. I'm actually shocked this hasn't turned into a pimp Jesus Montero thread, this site sure could use another one of those. Isn't that what you are primarily here to do? Pimp your guys to sell your cards?

From what I've seen, that is far from the case.

For the last handful of months, he has continuously said to buy, buy, buy Mike Trout. Was that "pimping his guys"? I would say that was advising others to "see the light" so to say. I don't see him pimping his guys on here one bit-but I don't read all the threads, either.

I have a big Montero stash-and this list doesn't worry me one bit. He will be a top 5 prospect by BA, which carries a ton more wait than this list. Either way, whatever Montero is ranked isn't going to be the driver of his stuff-it will be how he does in ST. Montero at 9, in my opinion, is a joke. But, that's just me.

I agree with everything you just wrote.

Roundtree, what a dumb thing to say man. I'm sorry, but your main point there of "bbck pimps prospects to sell cards" revolved around some sort of falsehood you talked yourself into believing. Hail knows it, I know it, everyone knows it. If bball didnt make you look stupid, you just did it to yourself. Just give up bro.
 

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Wow, some people in here really need to grow up.

Some of us think Josh Sale is a top 50 prospect others don't (me included). GET OVER IT! If we all agreed on who the best prospects are, then there wouldn't be any money to be made.

BBcardkid, you are coming off extremely smug, and are not coming off the way you might like. There is also no such Bbbcardkid prospect handbook either. Take your own advice. We all swing and miss, buy early/late, sell early/late, and miss out completely. Some are better than others, some just flat out have more money than others, etc.

Let's just keep it civil, have fun, and respectfully disagree.

skrip
 

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ballerskrip said:
Wow, some people in here really need to grow up.

Some of us think Josh Sale is a top 50 prospect others don't (me included). GET OVER IT! If we all agreed on who the best prospects are, then there wouldn't be any money to be made.

BBcardkid, you are coming off extremely smug, and are not coming off the way you might like. There is also no such Bbbcardkid prospect handbook either. Take your own advice. We all swing and miss, buy early/late, sell early/late, and miss out completely. Some are better than others, some just flat out have more money than others, etc.

Let's just keep it civil, have fun, and respectfully disagree.

skrip

Smug? I didn't say zilch, zero, nada to someone else acting like I know it all. I didn't completely dump on someone else's opinion either, simply offered my own.

Whatever, I didn't know my analysis on this board was so controversial, arrogant, and unliked. If that's the case, I'll just remain quiet for now and let all of the experts participate in these topics. Time to go dark.
 

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Walk into the light, Tyler! 8-)

Keep talking, in other words.
 

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Geez, it's baseball cards. Nobody on here is on that top 50 list, and defending their own name. Who cares if a player isn't where you think he should be. THEY get paid to make their list, and it will be quite different from the BA list. Either way, arguing over slot placement is just a waste of time.
 

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According to Mayo, Wilmer Flores was # 58 and Miguel Sano was # 60, for those interested.
 

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Jaypers said:
According to Mayo, Wilmer Flores was # 58 and Miguel Sano was # 60, for those interested.


People can be pissed off about Sano, but this is the true crime. There are some that could very easily argue that Flores because of his age, level, and skills pertaining to his age was a top 20 guy last season.
 

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bballcardkid said:
ballerskrip said:
Wow, some people in here really need to grow up.

Some of us think Josh Sale is a top 50 prospect others don't (me included). GET OVER IT! If we all agreed on who the best prospects are, then there wouldn't be any money to be made.

BBcardkid, you are coming off extremely smug, and are not coming off the way you might like. There is also no such Bbbcardkid prospect handbook either. Take your own advice. We all swing and miss, buy early/late, sell early/late, and miss out completely. Some are better than others, some just flat out have more money than others, etc.

Let's just keep it civil, have fun, and respectfully disagree.

skrip

Smug? I didn't say zilch, zero, nada to someone else acting like I know it all. I didn't completely dump on someone else's opinion either, simply offered my own.

Whatever, I didn't know my analysis on this board was so controversial, arrogant, and unliked. If that's the case, I'll just remain quiet for now and let all of the experts participate in these topics. Time to go dark.

Don't go dark. I like the back and forth, and you have solid opinions. I just thought that whole thing with Joshua was a little much. Keep bringing it strong bro.....
 

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Trout, Harper, Lamb, Ackersley and some others do appear to be the real deal. Even low ranking Hicks has plenty of major league tallent!!! Some others, Im not so sure of.
 

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