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disengager said:
As someone who likes pitching duels and low scoring games, the start of the season has not been pretty. :cry:
+1.

How awesome would it be to see prime Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens battling it out with 20K games each!
 

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darocker80 said:
disengager said:
As someone who likes pitching duels and low scoring games, the start of the season has not been pretty. :cry:
+1.

How awesome would it be to see prime Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens battling it out with 20K games each!

How awesome would it be to see Chris Young and Tim Lincecum battling it out without Fred Lewis ruining what was setup to be a good pitching duel?
 

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disengager said:
darocker80 said:
disengager said:
As someone who likes pitching duels and low scoring games, the start of the season has not been pretty. :cry:
+1.

How awesome would it be to see prime Randy Johnson and Roger Clemens battling it out with 20K games each!

How awesome would it be to see Chris Young and Tim Lincecum battling it out without Fred Lewis ruining what was setup to be a good pitching duel?
Don't remind me, obviously that fourth run definatley was his fault, but those other three could've been prevented...
 

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Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
 

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predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!
 

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darocker80 said:
predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!


Well the stros are prone to slow starts but for anyone watching the games over the past couple of days...they have been dominated.I mean seriously B#tch slapped.Its pretty bad.With the kind of team we have this should not be happening.I know people say they get off to a slow start and all and the season is 162 games but come on!At least show some signs of life.Right now they are flopping around like a fish.
 

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predatorkj said:
darocker80 said:
predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!


Well the stros are prone to slow starts but for anyone watching the games over the past couple of days...they have been dominated.I mean seriously B#tch slapped.Its pretty bad.With the kind of team we have this should not be happening.I know people say they get off to a slow start and all and the season is 162 games but come on!At least show some signs of life.Right now they are flopping around like a fish.
Giants are like 2-5 :(
 

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While many good pitchers are struggling I am happy that Gil and Zack have been dealing so far for KC.Kyle Davies was solid in his first start too.I hope he can follow that up today.
 

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predatorkj said:
darocker80 said:
predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!


Well the stros are prone to slow starts but for anyone watching the games over the past couple of days...they have been dominated.I mean seriously B#tch slapped.Its pretty bad.With the kind of team we have this should not be happening.I know people say they get off to a slow start and all and the season is 162 games but come on!At least show some signs of life.Right now they are flopping around like a fish.

and you expected the astros to be good....haha
 

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disengager said:
As someone who likes pitching duels and low scoring games, the start of the season has not been pretty. :cry:

I suggest you watch D-backs games. It's almost a guarantee they will score 1 and only give up 2, so a nice low scoring game.
 

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KOBEARODLT said:
predatorkj said:
darocker80 said:
predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!


Well the stros are prone to slow starts but for anyone watching the games over the past couple of days...they have been dominated.I mean seriously B#tch slapped.Its pretty bad.With the kind of team we have this should not be happening.I know people say they get off to a slow start and all and the season is 162 games but come on!At least show some signs of life.Right now they are flopping around like a fish.

and you expected the astros to be good....haha


Our pitching...not so much.But Wandy is pretty darn sharp as long as he does not lose his cool.With Pudge behind the plate and him being a fellow Spanish speaker...I feel that Wandy will be better this year.I just don't think Q or Brad knew how to handle him.As for Oswalt...he has lost his touch.Hopefully he regains it.Moheler should be better than he is doing now.He was decently solid last season.Hampton is a coin flip but hey...its better than Backe.

As for hitting...here is where I would expect them to be good.Kaz is a good lead off guy and good defensively.Bourn can create hell on the bases provided he can get on which he has been better doing so so far.Pence is a coin flip but he is not making adjustments.Once he can...he'll be a perrenial all star.Pudge is on the downswing of his career but he is still a better offensive catcher than we have had for quite some time now.Berkman and Lee are no joke and I think Berkman is one of the best hitter in the NL behind Pujols of course.Lee needs to step it up defensively and offensively.Blum is Blum.Keppinger has been better than expected.And Miggy is doing better than expected both offensively and defensively.Between him and Kaz they have put together some very amazing plays already.Its also why the astros middle infield had so few errors last year(although Kaz was out for a good portion of the season).

My point is we are or should be a lot better than our record indicates.It just seems like some people have their head up their behinds.
 

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predatorkj said:
KOBEARODLT said:
predatorkj said:
darocker80 said:
predatorkj said:
Brian Moheler has sucked ass.Supposedly he has a knee injury now?Roy Hasn't been all that good and neither was Hampton.Wandy is like our best pitcher right now.Granted its early but you'd at least figure Roy would be okay.But I just haven't noticed his command.Its like he is struggling.I don't care how many games he won last year either...he still struggled.And our offense sucks!Hell Michael Bourn is doing better than I thought he would and so is Miggy and Kaz but people like Berkman and Lee stink the place up.Pitchers have also figured out all you have to do to strike Hunter Pence out is throw him something in the dirt and he is sure to swing.Terrible terrible start for the astros!
Totally understand with Roy. I have him on my fantasy team :(

hopefully him and lincecum pick it up next start!


Well the stros are prone to slow starts but for anyone watching the games over the past couple of days...they have been dominated.I mean seriously B#tch slapped.Its pretty bad.With the kind of team we have this should not be happening.I know people say they get off to a slow start and all and the season is 162 games but come on!At least show some signs of life.Right now they are flopping around like a fish.

and you expected the astros to be good....haha


Our pitching...not so much.But Wandy is pretty darn sharp as long as he does not lose his cool.With Pudge behind the plate and him being a fellow Spanish speaker...I feel that Wandy will be better this year.I just don't think Q or Brad knew how to handle him.As for Oswalt...he has lost his touch.Hopefully he regains it.Moheler should be better than he is doing now.He was decently solid last season.Hampton is a coin flip but hey...its better than Backe.

As for hitting...here is where I would expect them to be good.Kaz is a good lead off guy and good defensively.Bourn can create hell on the bases provided he can get on which he has been better doing so so far.Pence is a coin flip but he is not making adjustments.Once he can...he'll be a perrenial all star.Pudge is on the downswing of his career but he is still a better offensive catcher than we have had for quite some time now.Berkman and Lee are no joke and I think Berkman is one of the best hitter in the NL behind Pujols of course.Lee needs to step it up defensively and offensively.Blum is Blum.Keppinger has been better than expected.And Miggy is doing better than expected both offensively and defensively.Between him and Kaz they have put together some very amazing plays already.Its also why the astros middle infield had so few errors last year(although Kaz was out for a good portion of the season).

My point is we are or should be a lot better than our record indicates.It just seems like some people have their head up their behinds.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. I've seen a few 'Stros games on TV and their base running has been worse than my 12 year old's team .... just awful.

I'm going to tomorrow's game at PNC, hoping for a fresh start.

Last time I saw Hampton pitch was in the Astrodome; he was good back then :lol:
 

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