Most useless product of the year?

[cgilmo]

but in a limited community such as this you're going to have hard feelings from member's aimed towards the mod's whom "came up" in the community with them & now are "moderating" them. D

Really good point.

Most of the guys we have moderating, have never moderated a forum before.

Expect a learning curve.

 

[predatorkj]

Well, after all of the great debating in these past 3 page's my choice has been made! :lol: But seriously, given the limited option's & it being 10 choice's that were decided by the OP, I will have to say that the most useless product of the year "from Blanning's list" is: UDX...
As for the heated "discussion" I think moderator's are great & needed for a community like this, but in a limited community such as this you're going to have hard feelings from member's aimed towards the mod's whom "came up" in the community with them & now are "moderating" them. Just my 2-cents, I personally don't give a rat's arse as I enjoy killing time here (if you guy's tell me "no-no" then it's your world, I'm just a visitor...this is a "free" site that offers its member's some great tool's that can be used at our disposal & I've enjoyed taking advatage of them- I'm just getting the hang of the "transaction board's" which are AWESOME).. Anyhow, you guy's seem to be moderating in moderation which is cool with me!

Thats a good point. I guess I just get tired of being attacked by the MOD MoB everytime I say something they don't completely agree or call them out on something. It can never just be a discussion. It has to turn into a "Feel free to leave" , "Nobody is forcing you to be here", or "Its the rules. Deal with it." thread. Who moderates the MOD's?

Ok...you have gone on a rant for a few pages now and its starting to dig a hole for you.Now I can see why some of the mods acted like they did on the old board.Hopefully Gilmore will just ignore this as an isolated incident and not become like them.

I personally have nothing vested in this site but my time spent here.I don't know Gilmore or anybody here for that matter at all.We are not buddy buddy.I don't always see eye to eye with every decision he makes.But guess what?I am married to a woman that I don't always see eye to eye with either but for the most part I do agree with a lot of things with her.So for me to come across another person that I don't always see eye to eye with but can agree with a lot and see they are actually a respectable person means something to me.I don't kiss his rear end and like I said...I have no personal stake here other than my invested time talking here.But the last few weeks I have totally seen him getting his chops busted on several topics.Its getting beyond old.In fact its downright stupid.Just because you don't see eye to eye does not mean you have to be a smart allec about it.

You said this site would be nothing without the community yet you would look down upon and have disdain for the very people who helped this community reform from the old beckett.Have some respect.


Like I said...I have no vested interest and I am not kissing anyone's rear end but I would hazard a guess that there is a reason you have been told what you have been told.I also think it has little to do with anyone or anything but your very own actions and words around here.So I can kind of see where the mods are coming from.Yes this is a place for freedom but you constantly calling out the mods and trying to spark a fire with them and trying to throw a monkey wrench in things and rebel only leads to the conclusion you are in fact breaking rule #1.You may not think it or see it but you are.Try not to ruin this place for all of us.If you don't like it ....leave.Yeah...you may not like that answer but hey...logically...why would you stick around if you didn't like it?That says something right there.

 

[blanning71]

Wow, just wow. I can't believe how some people feel on here. I was planning on writing up an article regarding how companies seem to be watering down the market with less attractive products these days and I didn't realize this was going to become a holy war against mods or members. I simply took some information I had gathered and put it to a poll.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

Wow, just wow. I can't believe how some people feel on here. I was planning on writing up an article regarding how companies seem to be watering down the market with less attractive products these days and I didn't realize this was going to become a holy war against mods or members. I simply took some information I had gathered and put it to a poll.

While I agree having that argument in this thread is ridiculous some mods are complete tools.
Back to the topic poll
Upper Deck X
Upper Deck First Pitch (I cant even remember how base ud looked :? )

 

[tonsofcommons]

I voted for UD Documentary & Donruss Sports Legends

Ud Documentary- While this is a neat concept, the design was horrible with no player name AT ALL on the front.

Sports Legends- I just don't like pullng John Westmuller cards as my inserts, that's all!

 

[bballcardkid]

Companies should be limited to 4 products per year. It would be awesome!!

 

[Therion]

Companies should be limited to 4 products per year. It would be awesome!!

1 entry level set
1 low level set
1 mid level set
1 high level set

I like it, but the quality would have to be spectacular. Nobody is going to put up with 1995 Fleer ever again.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

Companies should be limited to 4 products per year. It would be awesome!!

1 entry level set
1 low level set
1 mid level set
1 high level set

I like it, but the quality would have to be spectacular. Nobody is going to put up with 1995 Fleer ever again.

Thats a sharp card

 

[EmeraldRain]

I'm more curious as to why so many think UD X is useless. I can understand the argument for First Pitch, it's base UD without foil but for a young kid with a couple dollars it'll get him some cards. Almost the same with Opening Day, same design as the base set but cheap.

I'm assuming we'd see.. lack of prospects, lack of big name autos, it's not Bowman Chrome, lack of big gu cards, it's not Razor.. I think I answered my own question.

 

[KC37]

I went with the Heritage. Mostly because it SHOULDN'T be useless, but it is.

I didn't buy any UDX, but I thought the same as some others here - it was a nice nod to 90s collecting. I thought it would be embraced better than it was.

 

[Billy Packer]

Companies should be limited to 4 products per year. It would be awesome!!

1 entry level set
1 low level set
1 mid level set
1 high level set

I like it, but the quality would have to be spectacular. Nobody is going to put up with 1995 Fleer ever again.

I'd add one retired player/HOF'er type set to this list as well.

 

[cgilmo]

I'm more curious as to why so many think UD X is useless. I can understand the argument for First Pitch, it's base UD without foil but for a young kid with a couple dollars it'll get him some cards. Almost the same with Opening Day, same design as the base set but cheap.

I'm assuming we'd see.. lack of prospects, lack of big name autos, it's not Bowman Chrome, lack of big gu cards, it's not Razor.. I think I answered my own question.

because it provides little value to the people busting it.

 

[EmeraldRain]

I'm more curious as to why so many think UD X is useless. I can understand the argument for First Pitch, it's base UD without foil but for a young kid with a couple dollars it'll get him some cards. Almost the same with Opening Day, same design as the base set but cheap.

I'm assuming we'd see.. lack of prospects, lack of big name autos, it's not Bowman Chrome, lack of big gu cards, it's not Razor.. I think I answered my own question.

because it provides little value to the people busting it.

I find that busting bowman chrome or sterling gives little value to me.. the cards of players who haven't done jack squat on a MLB level, they might as well be cards of the local tire mechanic or walmart worker.

Value is in the eye of the beholder.. clearly.

So then should all of the low end base issue type sets be done away with completely? Since the majority(at least on this board) no longer has interset in base cards, and low end parallels, the roots of what got us to where we are today. Because it doesn't cost $50+ a pack and have cut autos of hof'ers or cut up jersey/patch cards of hof'ers or big name prospects it's useless?

Like I said, I can understand saying Opening Day or First pitch is useless as it's an exact duplicate of another set, but UD X mirrors nothing else. To say it's useless simply because prospectors or gu patch lovers get nothing from the product is pure stupid imho. While Bowman, Razer etc. provide nothing for me and I feel they are useless, they do provide for a niche of the hobby and aren't entirely useless overall. Sets that mirror other sets do nothing for anyone and are truely useless.

 

[predatorkj]

I'm more curious as to why so many think UD X is useless. I can understand the argument for First Pitch, it's base UD without foil but for a young kid with a couple dollars it'll get him some cards. Almost the same with Opening Day, same design as the base set but cheap.

I'm assuming we'd see.. lack of prospects, lack of big name autos, it's not Bowman Chrome, lack of big gu cards, it's not Razor.. I think I answered my own question.

because it provides little value to the people busting it.

I find that busting bowman chrome or sterling gives little value to me.. the cards of players who haven't done jack squat on a MLB level, they might as well be cards of the local tire mechanic or walmart worker.

Value is in the eye of the beholder.. clearly.

So then should all of the low end base issue type sets be done away with completely? Since the majority(at least on this board) no longer has interset in base cards, and low end parallels, the roots of what got us to where we are today. Because it doesn't cost $50+ a pack and have cut autos of hof'ers or cut up jersey/patch cards of hof'ers or big name prospects it's useless?

Like I said, I can understand saying Opening Day or First pitch is useless as it's an exact duplicate of another set, but UD X mirrors nothing else. To say it's useless simply because prospectors or gu patch lovers get nothing from the product is pure stupid imho. While Bowman, Razer etc. provide nothing for me and I feel they are useless, they do provide for a niche of the hobby and aren't entirely useless overall. Sets that mirror other sets do nothing for anyone and are truely useless.

I am glad at least a few like the UD x stuff.I love the x-ponetial inserts.Especially the x-4's.Those are sweet looking and of course I love the die cut paralle's as well.

 

[ChasHawk]

Honestly, I think I could cast a vote for every product on the list. The only one I bought a box of was Co-Signers, and it was the worst box I opened all year. It even prompted me to write a letter to Topps. You can read about the whole thing if you like here: http://halloffamehawk.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/2008-topps-co-signersugghhh/

 

[predatorkj]

Honestly, I think I could cast a vote for every product on the list. The only one I bought a box of was Co-Signers, and it was the worst box I opened all year. It even prompted me to write a letter to Topps. You can read about the whole thing if you like here: http://halloffamehawk.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/2008-topps-co-signersugghhh/

Good points in that letter!

 

[bc81758]

I'm more curious as to why so many think UD X is useless. I can understand the argument for First Pitch, it's base UD without foil but for a young kid with a couple dollars it'll get him some cards. Almost the same with Opening Day, same design as the base set but cheap.

I'm assuming we'd see.. lack of prospects, lack of big name autos, it's not Bowman Chrome, lack of big gu cards, it's not Razor.. I think I answered my own question.

because it provides little value to the people busting it.

Depends on who is opening the products listed. Keep in mind, not everyone here is trying to flip product for profit and not everyone is a prospector.

There are plenty of parents who try to get cards for their kids for either their birthday or the holiday season and dont know the 1st thing about prospecting nor do they want to spend more than say $20. Getting a box of say UD 1st pitch or Topps Opening Day to a parent for only $20 means a ton of cards for the kid or to give out to the kid's friends for their birthday or holiday celebration. Given the state of the economy these days, high end sets may not sell as well as they used to.

 

[MattinglyAlexander]

lol, UDX was junk! However, I do like the Xponetial cards...1,2,3,4. You don't like them, I'll take 'em.