Mr. Mint got his

[AKT74]

I have my own opinion of him, but I am curious. Have ANY of you actually spoken to him, or dealt with him? If you have, what was it for? Did you do the deal and take the $$ or laugh at him and walk away?

Just curious, no flaming me please. I'd just like to hear a first hand experience rather than "I read it here or heard it from so-and-so".

I have dealt with him a number of times, on both sides of the deal. I have never had a bad experience. We have not come to terms on a couple deals, but that is to be expected. I never understood the dislike towards someone that I am sure most of these posters have never met, let alone had a transaction with. Yes he can be a little cocky to strangers, but you can't imagine how many time wasters he has to deal with.

Again we all have a right to our own opinions (as long as that opinion is not based on hearsay).

He attempts to be the "I pay top dollar" guy when in reality he just sells to the guys who pay top dollar and is a jerk to people he buys from.

How many times have you dealt with him?

Like I said I have done deals with him on both sides, and I don't do deals with anyone if I feel I am being short changed.

 

[bodiaz]

Once again, when someone is the best at what they do, the haters come out. Hey Jealousy! Why do people hate successful people so much? When someone is on top, the haters ALWAYS find, or make up reasons to bring them down. See: Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Bill Clinton, John McCain. We live in a jealous world!

 

[AKT74]

Once again, when someone is the best at what they do, the haters come out. Hey Jealousy! Why do people hate successful people so much? When someone is on top, the haters ALWAYS find, or make up reasons to bring them down. See: Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Bill Clinton, John McCain. We live in a jealous world!

THANK YOU!!!!!

 

[NYCrulesU]

Once again, when someone is the best at what they do, the haters come out. Hey Jealousy! Why do people hate successful people so much? When someone is on top, the haters ALWAYS find, or make up reasons to bring them down. See: Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Bill Clinton, John McCain. We live in a jealous world!

Do you post just to make yourself look like a complete idiot? or is that just a residual side effect.


It's not about haters or who's the best or jealousy. Atleast not from those of us that have actually dealt with Rosen first hand. The guy is a complete *****. A classless, arrogant piece of trash. He treats people like dirt. Yes, I've (almost) had several personal dealings with him. I would contact him with items for sale, he would lowball, I would decline, he would berate me with his typical blabber about how "his is the best offer I will ever get", "If I actually knew anything about cards I would sell to him now" and several other laughable statements that I've heard from him over the years. I absolutely loved his mini hissy fits when I wouldn't sell to him at his ridiculous prices. :lol: I always found buyers with better offers and had less drama in dealing with them.

But you keep sticking up for ********** that you know nothing about. Makes you look real intelligent. ::facepalm::

 

[A_Pharis]

Bodiaz: Did you actually even WATCH the clip where he threw the signed jersey on the floor in some motor oil?


There's a good reason why he said "Oh, I'll still give you $1000." It's because it's still worth a LOT more than $1000, especially before he ruined it.

 

[NYCrulesU]

Bodiaz: Did you actually even WATCH the clip where he threw the signed jersey on the floor in some motor oil?


There's a good reason why he said "Oh, I'll still give you $1000." It's because it's still worth a LOT more than $1000, especially before he ruined it.

Ahh, the memories that vid brought back. Memories of how he carelessly flips through someones valuables while thoughtlessly calling out a ridiculous lowball offer price. Yep, he's a pure godsend to the industry.

 

[A_Pharis]

I'm all fine and good with people making money -- THAT'S CAPITALISM! Amen, a steal is a steal after all.

But I don't consider it a legit steal to go to someone who did it so long ago that they probably have cards older than their kids that they pulled ont he day of release. Once there, you toss them a number to see if they bite and then roll on with lowball after lowball. That's not a steal to me... that's taking advantage
Thin line, and some may disagree, but that's my opinion.

 

[A_Pharis]

Oh, and the poor jersey. Man, that jersey.
Very nice piece -- has probably been locked up for years -- probably means a load to the old gentleman...
Then he sees it get tossed like yesterday's news.

 

[ballerskrip]

The guy is a piece of trash. I see him at every Chicago Sun Times show and damn does he walk around that place like he owns it. Funny thing is, that no one there gives a crap about him.

My Dad is a big coin collector and is always buying people's collections. He often deals with people that don't know much about the coins that they are selling, but he almost always ends up buying the collection one way or another. You know how? Because he gives them a good, very fair price. He has had hundreds of people turn down his offer, thinking they have a gold mine on their hands, but then the "seller" gets offers from 3-4 dealers and my Dad's offer is 30-50% higher and he ends up buying the collection. He has also had hundreds of people that he "overpaid". Did he really "overpay"? No, he paid them a fair price, but it was often 3-4-5 times more than what they expected for the collection or 3-4-5 times more than what it would taken to walk the coins out the door. My Dad often takes hours to talk people through their collections, explaining what they have, talking about different values, etc.

To me, Mr. Mint is the exact opposite of this. He wants to take advantage of anyone and everyone, period.

Skrip

 

[011873]

Couple of things:
1. Ummm, Dude, convo came straight from the promoters. What I know is what I wrote. Why do you think I asked? Looking to see if anyone else was there. Only had a minute to talk with the promoter and I was the one who brought it up.

2. Why does anyone respond to BoDiaz? For real, he just likes to fight. May this be the last post to ever mention his SN until he starts to understand he isnt a walking encylopedia.

3. I can honestly say I have NEVER..AND THE ROCK MEANS NEVER......heard anyone say anything good about Rosen. Ever. Ive always heard he lowballs everything and thinks hes king of the Hobby, as if WE ALL owe him something.

He is one hundred zillion percent in it for the money. He doesnt collect, he doesnt hold anything. In today out tomorrow and he has the balls to say what he did.

Anyone here remember how DEAD SET against grading he was? I dont mean he didnt like it, I mean he took out full page ads saying grading will ruin the hobby and that only dealers make money on grading and collectors lose.

Or how about his "tonic" which took the wax stains out of cards. This isnt the art world, restoration is a no no here.


All his ads picture him a s smiling guy yet when you meet him, hes no where near that.

 

[Donutme]

I agree ! I can honestly say I have NEVER..AND THE ROCK MEANS NEVER !!! CLASSIC !

 

[RudyGayExquisite]

I had one run-in with him a long time ago at a show in Minneapolis.

At the time, I had a PSA 10 1985 Topps Mark McGwire. It was one of only 5 graded at the time and one had recently sold for $2500+ on Ebay. I took it along, showed it to some dealers. Everyone seemed really impressed and it brought me quite alot of attention from dealers and other collectors there.

Right before we were about to leave, my friend takes the McGwire and says, I wanna see what Mr. Mint thinks of this card.
So he goes up to him, and he immediately rolls his eyes after seeing it's in a graded case. Then he offered him $150 for it. We kinda laughed about the whole situation as we walked back to our car. I sold the card a few months later for $5500+

 

[scotty21690]

Once again, when someone is the best at what they do, the haters come out. Hey Jealousy! Why do people hate successful people so much? When someone is on top, the haters ALWAYS find, or make up reasons to bring them down. See: Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire, Bill Clinton, John McCain. We live in a jealous world!

YES!!!





[youtube:18ad9rao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxQhx4t1FmE[/youtube:18ad9rao]

 

[mudflap02]

He is one hundred zillion percent in it for the money. He doesnt collect, he doesnt hold anything.

I am by no means a Mr. Mint apologist, but I don't think Rosen has ever implied that he's a collector, and there's nothing wrong with flipping cards for a living if you can make enough money doing it. Think of Mr. Mint like a used car dealership. I have had a number of cards that I absolutely loved for one reason or another, but to professionals, sentimental value means nothing. As Jack King Jr. of Jack King Chevrolet in downnnnntown Tyler used to say in his ads, "It's just steel and glass with a little bit of plastic, and we're not in love with anything." To some of us, cards mean a lot, but to others, they are just little cardboard strips with pictures of men on them, some of which can be sold to a buyer at a significantly higher price than what it cost to acquire. Don't fault the man for trying to make a living. If you want to call him a jerk with no social skills, that's fine too, just have some sort of personal experience to back your claim up. There are a few great dealers in this business, and a lot more scum-of-the-earth types. I don't know what it is that attracts this type of person to the hobby, but there are tons of 'em.

 

[blanning71]

I've seen dealers like him before and the truth is, he'll never be stopped. Much like Burge, he'll always have a clientelle to deal with. People will constantly come back to him for more and there will always be people to buy from. People that don't know what they have. While many of us sit here and say that he lowballs, many folks probably don't feel that way and are glad to get what he offers them. Its a valuable lesson I learned a LONG time ago about this hobby...........

You will only get out of it what someone will give you and sometimes if you're hard pressed, a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. Ultimately I am the only one responsible for saying "yes" or "no" to an offer made to me and I have to be educated enough to know if I'm making out to the good or if I'm being taken like an icecream cone from a fat kid.

I'm not a big fan of him, but then again I haven't ever met him in person. I'm not one to try to lowball someone on a card or piece that I am going after and if that is what he truly does, then I don't wish any positives upon him. I think that, from previous comments about his practicess, he casts some negativity towards the hobby, but there are larger fish to fry such as the forgers, patch fakers, and other crooks out there.

 

[HPC]

Ultimately I am the only one responsible for saying "yes" or "no" to an offer made to me and I have to be educated enough to know if I'm making out to the good or if I'm being taken like an icecream cone from a fat kid.

Rosen may lowball people but that, as many have said, is capitalism at it's finest....trying to buy for the lowest amount you can and resell for the highest.

If you dont know what you are selling, then you are either too ignorant to take time to research, or too lazy, and the excuse of "he was a 90 year old man" doesnt work. I know many collectors in their 70's who are on top of things and know prices for cards that were made last year.

I compare it to buying a car. You dont just pick a random car dealer and do no research before you buy a car....so why wouldnt you do research before you sell your memorabilia/cards?

Now, the problem I have is the way he treats people and their items. I've never personally met him, but, from the stories here and on BMB, and the videos, that is what makes me dislike him.

 

[smapdi]

Never met him, never seen him at a show, faintly remember seeing him on TV in the 80s and thinking he was sort of slimy but still being amazed by his inventory. But two things seem to mark out his character.

First, he was staunchly anti-slab when they were becoming prominent. Then all of a sudden he became an SGC 'spokesman.' While my own attitudes about slabbing have changed over the years, he totally about-faced when he saw the (presumably green) light. So much for 'buying the card not the slab.' In that sense, yes, capitalism and not collectorship dictates actions, but

Second, in all the times his name's come up on a message board, or at a shop or a show, conversations just like this evolve. And by that I mean some people say he's a jerk or worse, and other people defend him by saying he's simply a capitalist and all that. It's certainly possible to make money from the hobby and not be a jerk or worse. But I cannot think of a single person who came out and said,"He was very nice and cordial and really took his time to explain his offer and make me the best deal possible."

So in all this, I still don't see how he 'got his.'

 

[ChasHawk]

He is one hundred zillion percent in it for the money. He doesnt collect, he doesnt hold anything.

I am by no means a Mr. Mint apologist, but I don't think Rosen has ever implied that he's a collector, and there's nothing wrong with flipping cards for a living if you can make enough money doing it. Think of Mr. Mint like a used car dealership. I have had a number of cards that I absolutely loved for one reason or another, but to professionals, sentimental value means nothing. As Jack King Jr. of Jack King Chevrolet in downnnnntown Tyler used to say in his ads, "It's just steel and glass with a little bit of plastic, and we're not in love with anything." To some of us, cards mean a lot, but to others, they are just little cardboard strips with pictures of men on them, some of which can be sold to a buyer at a significantly higher price than what it cost to acquire. Don't fault the man for trying to make a living. If you want to call him a jerk with no social skills, that's fine too, just have some sort of personal experience to back your claim up. There are a few great dealers in this business, and a lot more scum-of-the-earth types. I don't know what it is that attracts this type of person to the hobby, but there are tons of 'em.

The celebrated baseball card dealer - who became so disenchanted with industry "greed"

 

[Rudzud]

The guy is a piece of trash. I see him at every Chicago Sun Times show and damn does he walk around that place like he owns it. Funny thing is, that no one there gives a crap about him.

My Dad is a big coin collector and is always buying people's collections. He often deals with people that don't know much about the coins that they are selling, but he almost always ends up buying the collection one way or another. You know how? Because he gives them a good, very fair price. He has had hundreds of people turn down his offer, thinking they have a gold mine on their hands, but then the "seller" gets offers from 3-4 dealers and my Dad's offer is 30-50% higher and he ends up buying the collection. He has also had hundreds of people that he "overpaid". Did he really "overpay"? No, he paid them a fair price, but it was often 3-4-5 times more than what they expected for the collection or 3-4-5 times more than what it would taken to walk the coins out the door. My Dad often takes hours to talk people through their collections, explaining what they have, talking about different values, etc.

To me, Mr. Mint is the exact opposite of this. He wants to take advantage of anyone and everyone, period.

Skrip

Well thought out post there Skrip. My father has a meager coin collection.

 

[Philip J. Fry]

I wish I had a nice 1952 Mantle so that I could start talking to Mr. Mint. I would document every email, phone call, whatever so that I could show just how much he rips people off.

Actually, I wonder if someone did that already.