Muhammad Ali Info - REAL CHECKLIST AND INFO

[Ty Hope]

Someone's case is going to be LOADED! :shock:

 

[Leaf]

There are 100 cuts and 50 on card
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[SeattleSports]

There are 100 cuts and 50 on card
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I hope you're mistaken... You cut the Ali autographs by 25% and this is the first we hear of this? That is absolutely ridiculous.

400 1/1 plates
50 on-card 1 of 1 fight used
150 cut signature cards
plus fight used unsigned
plus event worn
This brings total estimated count to 10 event used and 2 others (plates/on-card/cut/fight used) per case.

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150 cuts and 50 on card 1/1 fight used... plus fight used unsigned...

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Looks like a fun rip. How many total Ali autos are there? Who are going to be the "filler" auto's?

150 cuts and 50 ON-CARD 1/1 FIGHT USED (1970 OSCAR BONAVENA FIGHT)
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How many autographs per case?

24 total autos per case..
Ali autographs are in addition and fall every other case.
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[beefycheddar]

IBCarnage.....

 

[Ty Hope]

Oh for the love of God... Here we go again... (grabs popcorn)

 

[Erich]

IBCarnage.....

Quote of the day

 

[beefycheddar]

IBCarnage.....

Quote of the day

I'm going to say now this deserves some answers from Leaf, but let's keep it civil.

 

[SeattleSports]

Someone please tell me if i'm out of line but I think this is ridiculous,

I've been ordering this product based on the assumption that Ali autos were 1 in every other case as Leaf clearly stated. Now 25% of the Ali autos are gone and the odds of pulling an Ali auto jump from 1:24 boxes to 1:32 boxes, that is a significant change.

 

[Ty Hope]

Someone please tell me if i'm out of line but I think this is ridiculous,

I've been ordering this product based on the assumption that Ali autos were 1 in every other case as Leaf clearly stated. Now 25% of the Ali autos are gone and the odds of pulling an Ali auto jump from 1:24 boxes to 1:32 boxes, that is a significant change.

You are completely in the right to question this. I had a bunch of boxes pre-ordered, but backed out due to the sticker issue. This is something MUCH worse if true. Leaf better have a good response for this or they are about to be shat all over.

 

[Krusin]

busted 1 box this morning, not too bad

Ali EU /60
both on card auto's
Ali Opponets auto no # Earnie Shavers
Ali Opponets auto #25 Joe Frazier

 

[Mahoody]

Someone please tell me if i'm out of line but I think this is ridiculous,

I've been ordering this product based on the assumption that Ali autos were 1 in every other case as Leaf clearly stated. Now 25% of the Ali autos are gone and the odds of pulling an Ali auto jump from 1:24 boxes to 1:32 boxes, that is a significant change.

You are completely in the right to question this. I had a bunch of boxes pre-ordered, but backed out due to the sticker issue. This is something MUCH worse if true. Leaf better have a good response for this or they are about to be shat all over.

Better start holding onto your wrappers ::facepalm::

 

[Buynhisellnlow]

Someone please tell me if i'm out of line but I think this is ridiculous,

I've been ordering this product based on the assumption that Ali autos were 1 in every other case as Leaf clearly stated. Now 25% of the Ali autos are gone and the odds of pulling an Ali auto jump from 1:24 boxes to 1:32 boxes, that is a significant change.

No, you're not out of line at all. I ordered my cases (have four of them coming in) based on the premise that there were 200 Ali Autos being inserted into this product and thus, ~one Ali Auto every other case on average based on Brian's earlier statements. The number of Ali Autos being reduced by 25% is definitely unacceptable and to make it worse, there wasn't even a statement from Leaf notifying buyers of this change.

I've been a fan of Leaf practices and what I perceived to be above standard business transparency for its consumers but this is not acceptable to me. I may not be busting these cases after all.

 

[P_Manning 18]

There are 100 cuts and 50 on card
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I hope you're mistaken... You cut the Ali autographs by 25% and this is the first we hear of this? That is absolutely ridiculous.

400 1/1 plates
50 on-card 1 of 1 fight used
150 cut signature cards
plus fight used unsigned
plus event worn
This brings total estimated count to 10 event used and 2 others (plates/on-card/cut/fight used) per case.

[quote:3ivhynn4]

150 cuts and 50 on card 1/1 fight used... plus fight used unsigned...

Bg

Looks like a fun rip. How many total Ali autos are there? Who are going to be the "filler" auto's?

150 cuts and 50 ON-CARD 1/1 FIGHT USED (1970 OSCAR BONAVENA FIGHT)
BG

How many autographs per case?

24 total autos per case..
Ali autographs are in addition and fall every other case.
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::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: ::facepalm::

Soon people will won't trust anything you say. Quoted 4 times saying the same thing... but now upon release we hear a 25% cut in Ali Autos... the one thing driving this product. Unless you think its the Bruce Jenner and Sticker autos that will drive the sales. But you sold out of your product stating one thing... and later change it. Not good.... Not good at all.

 

[George_Calfas]

This needs to be fixed ASAP

 

[P_Manning 18]

I was labeled as a "hater" and "beating a dead horse" and the same could be said about kentuckeyderby when we brought up a few different instances when BG would say one thing... and something totally different happened.... Some trivial... some huge.

Trivial - President Cuts being in the bag ..in side the packs... but the bag was sitting on top.

Huge - Razor Metal being different from Razor Signature.... but it was just the same cards... in Metal form.

 

[matchpenalty]

Save those wrappers. I see a second chance offer in works.

For those that have busted this stuff, is their any odds on the boxes for pulling an Ali auto?

With less Ali autos they become bigger pulls even more now. So instead of 1-24 shot at Ali ink it's more like 1-30 boxes. Not drastic change, but still enough that Leaf should make some type of second chance wrapper bit. Like Topps has been doing with Bowman stuff.

 

[Leaf]

I just checked the sell sheets and website. There was no mention of a quantity of cuts.

I am embarrassed to say I mistyped on this site only. No where else was this mistake made. All other correspondence either said 100 cuts or listed no quantity.

I do apologize for the error, however it was certainly unintentional. This has always been a 20 card set numbered to 5.

The error was only on FCB...

I will be doing a giveaway ONLY for FCB members in an effort to "make it up"...please keep receipts for your purchases... Details to follow...

While I know the hatred will run wild,
I assure you the error was a fat fingered typing too fast error (which meant to say 150 total autographs including 50 on-card and 100 cuts).

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[justinmandawg]

399 cases/150 cards
2.66 cases/card
1:32 boxes

 

[George_Calfas]

Save those wrappers. I see a second chance offer in works.

For those that have busted this stuff, is their any odds on the boxes for pulling an Ali auto?

With less Ali autos they become bigger pulls even more now. So instead of 1-24 shot at Ali ink it's more like 1-30 boxes. Not drastic change, but still enough that Leaf should make some type of second chance wrapper bit. Like Topps has been doing with Bowman stuff.

Fact is people paid for cases with the assumption there was 200 Ali Autos not 150.

 

[George_Calfas]

:grouphug: