My Top 50 midseason Prospect List

[jbone17]

Other then Barry Bonds, i cannot think of another hitter that went to college before having a HOF baseball career.

fair enough. i guess i should have stipulated that someone who is 23+ that hasnt made themselves an everyday MLBer by that age, has a very small shot at mega-stardom

does that mean that money CANNOT be made on them? of course not

RYAN HOWARD IS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL AND A FUTURE FIRST BALLOT HOFER

- .....

Not a chance.

 

[cgilmo]

Other then Barry Bonds, i cannot think of another hitter that went to college before having a HOF baseball career.

fair enough. i guess i should have stipulated that someone who is 23+ that hasnt made themselves an everyday MLBer by that age, has a very small shot at mega-stardom

does that mean that money CANNOT be made on them? of course not

RYAN HOWARD IS THE BEST PLAYER IN BASEBALL AND A FUTURE FIRST BALLOT HOFER

- .....

Not a chance.

FCB has a running Ryan Howard gag

 

[shayscards79]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

 

[cgilmo]

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[JoshHamilton]

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Awesome, can you add a G.O.A.T. to those pics?

 

[hail2thevictors]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

 

[hail2thevictors]

So, I'm not sure why you even brought the HOF into this discussion. Goldschmidt could be a darn good player, and never sniff the HOF.

because those that do the prospecting are not into "darn good" players. the hobby isnt too keen on them either.

All exaggerating aside, come on man.

Prospectors are into making money. I am a prospector, and I am definitely into "darn good" players. If I could only prospect future HOF's, well that would be a pretty short list of players. I understand, the traditional collectors hate prospectors-it's like the older brother getting ticked because the younger brother gets more attention. I don't care for people talking about collecting 90's inserts-but with that said, I understand there are different people on here.

For prospectors, it doesn't matter how great a player is 3, 4, or 10 years down the road. It matters how much hype a guy gets, how well he debuts, etc-people don't prospect by hanging onto a guys cards until he retires.

 

[All The Hype]

Nice list, thanks for posting.

While I agree with a lot of your rankings and enjoyed the comments, here is the one I'm going to contest:

15) Jacob Turner- I like Turner, but he has shown this year that he may not have a #1 starter ceiling, but could be a good #2 starter. A much better prospect than Porcello was.

I'm not going to argue the ranking because 10-17 is where I think he belongs. I will argue the comment though:

First of all, I don't think he has shown that he does NOT have #1 potential. He just turned 20 years old a month ago and he is pitching in Double-A. That makes him one of the youngest players in the league, and he has put up all-star caliber numbers with a 2.94 ERA and only .220 batting average against him.

As long as he's in the same organization as Justin Verlander, of course he won't be a #1 starter, but that doesn't mean that he can't be as good as a #1; and his numbers have shown us that he can be very good against older competition.

Secondly, Turner is not as good of a prospect as Rick Porcello was. Remember that even if Porcello is pitching like an average, or above average Major League pitcher, that doesn't mean that he wasn't a big-time prospect who also was tagged as a future ace (which he still could become, as he is only 22 years old). That doesn't mean Turner won't ultimately be better than Porcello was, but he is not a better prospect than Porcello was, let alone a "much better" prospect.


Other than this (as a Tiger fan I couldn't pass up the opportunity to talk about this particular ranking), nice list. Of course there are others that I'd personally move around (cough Harper above Trout cough), but overall it was a great read.

 

[ljw29]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

He goes to the shoe store more often

 

[hail2thevictors]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

He goes to the shoe store more often

:lol: :lol:

But in all seriousness-to Shay's and mwash-how exactly does Machado have more polish?

 

[mwashuc06]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

He goes to the shoe store more often

:lol: :lol:

But in all seriousness-to Shay's and mwash-how exactly does Machado have more polish?

He has a much better chance of reaching his ceiling than Harper...

 

[Weimer]

That doesn't really answer the question, though.

 

[thefasterblade]

Paul Goldschmidt is just Mat Gamel.

 

[phillyfan0417]

This list is exactly like every other list that gets posted on here. It has a bias and is based on the assessments of experts taken by those who arent experts. I tend to read what the experts says because in general, they get to watch the players, talk to team scouts and also eachother.

These lists tend to be in line with what the person generally posts.


Regardless, still a decent list.

 

[ctbinvestments]

Nice list! Thanks for sharing.

Also, I completely agree with your ranking of Goldschmidt. People in the hobby are too caught up in his minor league stats (or deeply invested in him). There are concerns about the bat speed and some scouts think he's merely a mistake-pitch hitter and a platoon bat.

To compare him to Stanton is ludicrous. For one, Goldy will be damn near 24 if he hits 40 homers this year. Stanton was 18 when he hit 39 homers.

Think about that for a second.

Goldschmidt has mashed everywhere he has been.

So, he went to college can't really devalue him for that.

Other then Barry Bonds, i cannot think of another hitter that went to college before having a HOF baseball career.

by the age of 24, most HOFers have had a few years service in the majors

Off the top of my head...Craig Biggio & Frank Thomas went to college. Berkman has a chance at the HOF and so does Ryan Howard. I don't see, however, any chance that Ryan Howard is a for sure 1st ballot HOF...He'll be lucky to get in. A sub .280 career hitter (and falling) and not even 300 career home runs yet at the age of 31. Assuming he hits 45 this year, he has to hope for 7 more years 40+ Home Runs to even have a shot at 600 for his career. He'll probably get around 500, maybe a little more but that will not be 1st ballot HOF numbers with a .265 career batting average by then. Just my opinion but you can't really compare the whole "college" HOF thing now because most of the good high school players get a $$$million$$$ reasons not to go to college. Back in the 70's-80's players actually chose to go to skip school to play..not because of the money.

 

[sheetskout]

Paul Molitor? Dave Winfield?

Some of the statements in this thread are absolutely ridiculous...

 

[WJCIII]

[quote="mwashuc06":3gajfgyh]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

He goes to the shoe store more often

:lol: :lol:

But in all seriousness-to Shay's and mwash-how exactly does Machado have more polish?

He has a much better chance of reaching his ceiling than Harper...[/quote:3gajfgyh]

You have to understand, this guy has been against Harper since day 1 so comments that reflect negatively on him are to be expected. Harper has out performed Machado in every way, shape, and form.

 

[ThoseBackPages]

Paul Molitor? Dave Winfield?

Some of the statements in this thread are absolutely ridiculous...

Both debuted in the majors at age 21, not 24

 

[All The Hype]

This list is exactly like every other list that gets posted on here. It has a bias and is based on the assessments of experts taken by those who arent experts. I tend to read what the experts says because in general, they get to watch the players, talk to team scouts and also eachother.

These lists tend to be in line with what the person generally posts.


Regardless, still a decent list.

Nevertheless I think they are still fun to read. They also generate interesting discussion.

I wouldn't base my prospecting buying off a list posted by anyone on any message board, but I think the discussion can be both valuable and fun by bringing new ideas forward from different perspectives.

 

[Joshua.Roundtree]

[quote="mwashuc06":2obtuix7]

5) Manny Machado- Maybe end up being more a sure thing than Harper due to polish.

Agreed 100 percent.

I like the list, although I disagree with the Pomeranz assessment.

Where did this idea that Machado has more "polish" than Harper come from?

He goes to the shoe store more often

:lol: :lol:

But in all seriousness-to Shay's and mwash-how exactly does Machado have more polish?

He has a much better chance of reaching his ceiling than Harper...[/quote:2obtuix7]

This is just plain wrong....that is talking out of your butt like usual.