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Cy Young's 511 wins is the safest record in baseball.

Agreed.

Others such as 2 grand slams in one inning, or 2 back to back no hitters, although very impressive statistic anomalies, are still achievable. Just starting 511 games as a modern pitcher throughout your career is pretty much reserved only for the elite with regards to consistency and longevity. To WIN them ALL is just left of impossible.
 

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Rickey's 130 steals in a season and 1406 for career. Ryan's 7 No-No's. Van der Meer's consecutive No-No's. Cy's wins/losses/complete games. Shutouts (can't remember pitcher). Wins in a season 57? or maybe that was complete games? Tons of old pitching records are untouchable. Pitchers pitch was too much before the bigs now days. Back then they didn't pitch from 9 years old thru every single level and thru the minors for a few years. Feller came right out of high school and I'm sure the others did too. Guys are lucky to pitch as long as they do considering the mileage their arms have on them.
Actually, they all threw even MORE back then, all the way through the 70s and 80s.
 

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Agreed.

Others such as 2 grand slams in one inning, or 2 back to back no hitters, although very impressive statistic anomalies, are still achievable. Just starting 511 games as a modern pitcher throughout your career is pretty much reserved only for the elite with regards to consistency and longevity. To WIN them ALL is just left of impossible.
You really think someone could throw 3 no-hitters in a row?
 

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13 people have hit two grand slams in one game, so it's not like someone will never do it again but it's nearly impossible to think someone would "break" it by hitting three in one inning lol

Otherewise, I've also been a part of a bunch of these threads and the ones that I think will never be beat and are pretty much going to be #1 forever are all the records from way way way back in the day from pictures, like completed games, wins, etc. The game has just changed, simple enough.

Other fun ones though are like Cal's record or Joe D.'s record - impressive and hard to think someone will beat them but fun to see if anyone will catch them!

Anyways, love the debate... could even start a poll for which people think is the lead pipe lock for never to be broken.
 

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Imagine if someone actually did break tatis' record by hitting three grand slams the same inning against THE SAME PITCHER!

What would that pitchers era be?

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Imagine if someone actually did break tatis' record by hitting three grand slams the same inning against THE SAME PITCHER!

What would that pitchers era be?

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There would have to be some incredibly ridiculous circumstances for a team to bat around three times in the same inning, let alone for the pitcher to be left in.
 

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Rickey's 130 steals in a season

I wouldn't call this safe. If Billy Hamilton learns how to hit singles his ability to swipe second and third is unparalleled since Rickey played. If he can be a .300+ singles hitter and Cincy lets him run he could have a shot at this.
 

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I wouldn't call this safe. If Billy Hamilton learns how to hit singles his ability to swipe second and third is unparalleled since Rickey played. If he can be a .300+ singles hitter and Cincy lets him run he could have a shot at this.

Part of what makes this nearly impossible is the emphasis now on reducing the time the pitcher takes to deliver the ball, and therefore curtail the running game.

When Rickey was doing it, pitchers still had a windup.

P.S. I also think this has added to pitcher injuries.
 

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Majors > Minors. Most since 80's in Majors is about 80 or so.

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Majors > Minors. Most since 80's in Majors is about 80 or so.

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Still think it's beatable long-term. Some of these are almost impossible lol. Like 800 complete games? I mean. Seriously?! Lol


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You really think someone could throw 3 no-hitters in a row?

Very unlikely, but more of a chance than 511 Wins. There is a 0 percent chance of 511 wins in modern baseball, so all you need to do is figure the odds of throwing a no-hitter in the current environment. Doing it three starts in a row will make the odds astronomically low, but it will still be greater than zero.

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these 2 are most impressive IMO

1920 Babe Ruth with 54 HRs out homered every other team in baseball except one... 14/15 (Philadelphia NL had 64)

1932 Joe Sewell in 576 plate appearances struck out only 3 times whole season... he also hit 11 HRs that year...

honorable mention
1950 Yogi Berra (a Catcher) hit 28 HRs while only striking out 12 times that season... he had 6 years with more HRs than SOs
(only been done 2 times in last 55+ years or so... Bonds and Brett, 1 time ea.)
 

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-Walter Johnson's record of 110 complete game shut-outs.
-Satchel Paige's age record. At age 59, he was the oldest Major Leaguer to pitch in a game.
-Ripken's 2,632 consecutive games played.
-Yogi Berra's record of 10 World Series Championships.
-Dimaggio's consecutive hitting streak of 56 games.
-Joe Nuxhall who was the youngest pitcher ever to play in the majors. 15 years; 316 days.
 

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Those are hilarious! Didn't dunn or Reynolds strike out more in a double header than Sewell did entire career :p

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It'd be interesting to change the question to be something like what record achieved in the modern era will never be broken? I mean some never ever ever will be broken but it's because the game has changed. I mean obviously no one will get like 1000 complete games or whatever :lol:
 

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Still think it's beatable long-term. Some of these are almost impossible lol. Like 800 complete games? I mean. Seriously?! Lol


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OK, season may be obtainable, but to get the career record, they will have to average 75 steals a year for an entire 25 year career! Rickey was insane on the paths. He took Brock's record and absolutely destroyed it. If he would have had 1 more steal, giving him 1407 for a career, he would have bested Brock by exactly 50% (he stole 468 more than Brock and half of 938 is 469)! That to me is mind blowing! Beating a record by almost half!
 

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OK, season may be obtainable, but to get the career record, they will have to average 75 steals a year for an entire 25 year career! Rickey was insane on the paths. He took Brock's record and absolutely destroyed it. If he would have had 1 more steal, giving him 1407 for a career, he would have bested Brock by exactly 50% (he stole 468 more than Brock and half of 938 is 469)! That to me is mind blowing! Beating a record by almost half!

I think the season record is out of reach too, unless pitchers go back to actually having a windup.

There is a HUGE emphasis the last 10+ years on getting the ball to home plate as quickly as possible.

(I think this has also contributed greatly to arm injuries)
 

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