NBA Free Agent Tracker/Talk

[Canocollector#1]

Thought I would make a thread. Did not see one.

Free agents who have agreed to a deal-
Drew Gooden- Bucks 5 yrs 32 million
Darko Milicic- T'Wolves 4 yrs 20 million

 

[AmishDave]

TWolves rumored to sign their 2nd round pick in '08. Some big center that played w/Josh Childress' team (Patheticlinkos) or something like that.

Praying they sign David Lee and Gay and dump Jefferson (although I LOVE Jefferson ...)

 

[Canocollector#1]

TWolves rumored to sign their 2nd round pick in '08. Some big center that played w/Josh Childress' team (Patheticlinkos) or something like that.

Praying they sign David Lee and Gay and dump Jefferson (although I LOVE Jefferson ...)

Supposedly he is going to accept the Grizzlies offer.

 

[rymflaherty]

Guess I'm rooting for the Bulls to get Lebron - though if that scenario happens I really am going to kick myself for not having guts to order season tickets at a lower price last month.

The deal Atlanta offered Johnson is just ridiculous.....I guess kudos to him for that kind of payday, but no way in hell I'd ever give him close to $20 million a year.

Kudos also to Memphis for offering Gay a long term deal. Thought they may just let him go....as it seems they undermine themselves and almost purposefully suck. Now finally competitive and with a decent young team, good to see they are at least trying to build and keep that group together.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

Worst off moves so far? Wolves & Wolves.

 

[Jastermereel]

I think Paul Pierce is braindead for opting out of his deal. I'm assuming he has an arrangement with the Celtics already, because he's worth nowhere near $21 mill. If I were the Celtics I'd say, "Uh, thanks!" and make a move on one of the big guys.

 

[Canocollector#1]

Wade leaning towards Chicago? :shock:

 

[rymflaherty]

I think Paul Pierce is braindead for opting out of his deal. I'm assuming he has an arrangement with the Celtics already, because he's worth nowhere near $21 mill. If I were the Celtics I'd say, "Uh, thanks!" and make a move on one of the big guys.

It's not about that, it's about securing a long-term deal now. Those extra years make up for a small loss in salary next year. Other than it being a risk (injury, sharp decline) to play out next year on the deal, there also is the fact that there is a chance there may not even be a 2011-12 season, and even if there is there is no way he'd be able to get as good a deal under the new CBA they will come up with.


And yeah - I'm totally shocked by the Wade thing as well. Beyond shocked to come home and see that.....I honestly didn't even know why the Bulls were bothering to talk to him yesterday. I know most would probably think this view is stupid.....but I'm a Bulls fan who has never been that intrigued by bringing in Wade. He and Rose are so similar, I just believe that if you are constructing a "team" there are better ways to go.

 

[Card Magnet]

According to a Yahoo Sports report, Wade spent Friday afternoon meeting with the Chicago Bulls for the second time in two days.

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

Amare Stoudemire to the Knicks 5 years/100 million

 

[kdailey4315]

A few opinions.
1. Rudy Gay is NOT a max contract player.
2. If it was really about the money LeBron Wade and Bosh would all decide to go to the same team for a reasonable salary and win ring after ring.
3. To play Devils Advocate Lebron should go to NJ. They can make him a BILLIONAIRE and when they build the stadium in Brooklyn will overtake the Knicks. LeBron + what should be a dominating front court of Lopez and Favors should be a force to be reckoned with.
4. I hate Don Nelson and his coaching style. Not free agent related but I just don't like the man. If his game plan worked he would have at least 1 ring in 40 years of coaching.

 

[Anthony K.]

A few opinions.
1. Rudy Gay is NOT a max contract player.
2. If it was really about the money LeBron Wade and Bosh would all decide to go to the same team for a reasonable salary and win ring after ring.
3. To play Devils Advocate Lebron should go to NJ. They can make him a BILLIONAIRE and when they build the stadium in Brooklyn will overtake the Knicks. LeBron + what should be a dominating front court of Lopez and Favors should be a force to be reckoned with.
4. I hate Don Nelson and his coaching style. Not free agent related but I just don't like the man. If his game plan worked he would have at least 1 ring in 40 years of coaching.

1. I completely agree. One dimensional shooter who will stop caring once he signs his max deal.
2. This sounds good on paper, but is there really enough of the ball to go around for three superstars on one team?
3. I've liked him to go there IF he couldn't get Bosh in Chicago, because they have the best overall roster, in my opinion, to make him a champion.
4. But look what he brought us: Manute Bol shooting 3's, Run TMC, "Nellie Ball", shoot first, shoot second and defend last teams and Don Nelson Jr.

 

[matfanofold]

I think Paul Pierce is braindead for opting out of his deal. I'm assuming he has an arrangement with the Celtics already, because he's worth nowhere near $21 mill. If I were the Celtics I'd say, "Uh, thanks!" and make a move on one of the big guys.

The thing is, do you want to make 21 million next year, or get a new 4 year deal worth 60 million?

Personally, I would take the 21 million if I were him and retire after that. I just can not see him as usefull for 4 more years. It was pretty hard to watch him play most of this year.

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

It was pretty hard watching most of the Celtics play during the regular season. Pierce still did play better than Joe Johnson in the playoffs, and look at the money Johnson is going to get. Pierce was actually smart for opting out though, with the questions on where the salary cap and contract limits will be after the CBA runs out. I think the new contract works well for him and the team.

I agree with everyone else that Gay is not a max deal guy. Neither is Stoudemire or Johnson.

It's entirely possible we could see a starting 5 of Rose, Wade, Lebron, Bosh, and Noah. Two of them sign and the third is in a sign and trade for Bosh with Deng being the big piece. Remember, there were questions about if there was enough of the ball to go around with Piece/Allen/Garnett. I think with the right guys the team and winning become more important than getting their shots. I think this group could do it. Noah doesn't need or want the ball, and Rose would still put up numbers (look at Rondo with the C's and Rose is better at offense).

 

[rymflaherty]

Wasn't Gay offered 5 yr 80 mil? So that was the max then they could have offered?
Honestly I'd rather have Gay at that deal then the deals being offered to Johnson, Amar'e.....maybe even Bosh.
Thought Gay could have been a Pippen-esque player on a contender, plus he still has some upside.


Guess after a night the Wade to Chicago thing has begun to grow on me. Especially since I think they'd go after Boozer/Lee if Wade signs (maybe not enough cash for Bosh) , So it's tough to complain if you have a starting 5 of
Rose - Wade- Deng - Boozer/Lee- Noah

 

[Canocollector#1]

Wasn't Gay offered 5 yr 80 mil? So that was the max then they could have offered?
Honestly I'd rather have Gay at that deal then the deals being offered to Johnson, Amar'e.....maybe even Bosh.
Thought Gay could have been a Pippen-esque player on a contender, plus he still has some upside.


Guess after a night the Wade to Chicago thing has begun to grow on me. Especially since I think they'd go after Boozer/Lee if Wade signs (maybe not enough cash for Bosh) , So it's tough to complain if you have a starting 5 of
Rose - Wade- Deng - Boozer/Lee- Noah

If that happens, LeBron is now either going to the Cavs or Nets. He won't go to the heat if Wade is gone.

 

[Anthony K.]

It was pretty hard watching most of the Celtics play during the regular season. Pierce still did play better than Joe Johnson in the playoffs, and look at the money Johnson is going to get. Pierce was actually smart for opting out though, with the questions on where the salary cap and contract limits will be after the CBA runs out. I think the new contract works well for him and the team.

I agree with everyone else that Gay is not a max deal guy. Neither is Stoudemire or Johnson.

It's entirely possible we could see a starting 5 of Rose, Wade, Lebron, Bosh, and Noah. Two of them sign and the third is in a sign and trade for Bosh with Deng being the big piece. Remember, there were questions about if there was enough of the ball to go around with Piece/Allen/Garnett. I think with the right guys the team and winning become more important than getting their shots. I think this group could do it. Noah doesn't need or want the ball, and Rose would still put up numbers (look at Rondo with the C's and Rose is better at offense).

Yes, but for the Celts that was three aging stars who wanted a ring before they were useless. Not 3 in their prime superstars joining a 4th superstar to make a super team.

I hadn't really thought about it, but I agree that Stoudemire isn't a max guy either. A power forward who gives you a 20-6 is great....when's he's not your #1 guy. If I was Stoudemire, I would take less than max and go somewhere to be a #2 guy. Not sure where he could go to do that now, since the big 3 may all go to Chi-Town together.

If Wade falls through though (really, he is the player most likely to NOT sign in Chicago, in my opinion), Stoudemire needs to run to South Beach as QUICKLY as possible.

 

[rymflaherty]

^
Don't forget with Amar'e there is the injury concern too. I know he has come back and been fine thus far, but to me that with everything else you mentioned (plus he played in a system that optimized his talents) would keep me from offering something like the Knicks have.

The more I think about it the more it makes no sense to me that the Knicks have offered him that contract.....I heard reports that they have to do something, they have to give the fans something to look forward to, yadda yadda......but how does that make any sense? The Knicks would be letting go a PF in Lee that averages 20 ppg 11 reb and bringing in a more expensive PF Amar'e that averages 22 ppg and 7 reb. That is supposed to make Knick fans happy?
WTF? :lol:

 

[Tomlinson21RB]

It was pretty hard watching most of the Celtics play during the regular season. Pierce still did play better than Joe Johnson in the playoffs, and look at the money Johnson is going to get. Pierce was actually smart for opting out though, with the questions on where the salary cap and contract limits will be after the CBA runs out. I think the new contract works well for him and the team.

I agree with everyone else that Gay is not a max deal guy. Neither is Stoudemire or Johnson.

It's entirely possible we could see a starting 5 of Rose, Wade, Lebron, Bosh, and Noah. Two of them sign and the third is in a sign and trade for Bosh with Deng being the big piece. Remember, there were questions about if there was enough of the ball to go around with Piece/Allen/Garnett. I think with the right guys the team and winning become more important than getting their shots. I think this group could do it. Noah doesn't need or want the ball, and Rose would still put up numbers (look at Rondo with the C's and Rose is better at offense).

Yes, but for the Celts that was three aging stars who wanted a ring before they were useless. Not 3 in their prime superstars joining a 4th superstar to make a super team.

I hadn't really thought about it, but I agree that Stoudemire isn't a max guy either. A power forward who gives you a 20-6 is great....when's he's not your #1 guy. If I was Stoudemire, I would take less than max and go somewhere to be a #2 guy. Not sure where he could go to do that now, since the big 3 may all go to Chi-Town together.

If Wade falls through though (really, he is the player most likely to NOT sign in Chicago, in my opinion), Stoudemire needs to run to South Beach as QUICKLY as possible.

I was reading today that Wade is getting split custody for his kids, and guess where they live... Chicago.

Just something to think about. Wade does seem to really like his kids too, unlike some of the deadbeat dads in the NBA that have kids across the country and don't care.

Yea the Celtics stars were in a different time in their careers, but there are different factors going on here. The three are legitimately good friends off the court. Wade has had a taste of winning, and I'm sure he wants to get back. Bosh hasn't been on a winning team yet, so he might sacrifice to win. Lebron has done everything on the court except win a title after getting to the Eastern Conference Championship and Finals and losing. It would take some adjusting, but I think those three could do it.

 

[Daltonb1219]

Dirk Nowitzki and Dallas agreed on a 4 year deal worth at least $80 Million. Says my text from espn