Nothing to do w/ Baseball, very interesting-Shame on Panini

[Ndepaul99]

Funny thing is, this isnt the first time panini has screwed the pooch, a few months ago a guy by the name of "mswift69" on the blowout boards got a bunch of replacements for his 09/10 certified redemptions, and was given the sam bradford mirror black logo patch auto 1/1 (arguably the product "hit") as a replacement, blowout deleted the actual thread here is all i could find:

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/foot ... r-you.html

really really shady business practices by panini.

 

[cgilmo]

Are we supposed to take his word for what Panini promised him?

 

[Lancemountain]

Are we supposed to take his word for what Panini promised him?

He really has no reason to lie. And the fact that they *thought* that they were hooking him up seems to back his story up, no?

 

[nyc3]

Are we supposed to take his word for what Panini promised him?

I am right with you cgilmo, something is rotten here. Sorry I just don't buy something here, just cant put my finger on it yet. Like I said I have a feeling its what he wanted to hear and less what was said. I also have a feeling its because its the case his "girl" got him it stung more. I have seen people go bananas when they get a gift from someone and it has zero good hits and they ont want to tell them. Imagine that times a million as she is over your back saying "is that one good?" :lol:

 

[nyc3]

Are we supposed to take his word for what Panini promised him?

He really has no reason to lie. And the fact that they *thought* that they were hooking him up seems to back his story up, no?

What? He has every reason to lie. All we know is that he was sent 2 boxes. For all we know they told him they would hook him up with those 2 and thats it. Now he makes a stink on BO and whamo, his way is had.

 

[predatorkj]

Well exactly how is he having his way NYC? From what the dude said, he had gottena case devoid of anything. Then, they agree to send him a replacement case of the newer product since they had nothing to send him from the old product(the one he originally purchased). which is odd in itself. He doesn't(that I recall) mention when this case was originally purchased so if it was anywhere within 6 months or so, they damn well should have had stuff out of that product to send him.

And if you spend the money to get a case, doesn't that entitle you to a case hit? So he wasn't wrong for wanting what normally comes with a case. Then they send him two boxes worth of crappy hits. I'm not even sure if any of them would be considered a case hit. I'm sure there is somebody here who could provide that info.

If I purchased an entire case and got no hits, I would want a fresh case unopened. I'd gladly send the cards I have back(on my own dime even). You buy a case, you're buying it for the chance to pull nice hits. These guys screwed him badly by taking that away from him. It's bad enough when you get shorted a hit out of 1 or 2 boxes. Who the hell buys a case and doesn't want a say so in what they get as a replacement. Would you buy a case of topps product and tell them...oh...ok just send me a bunch of random replacements? Hell no. You'd end up with a stck of Ian Desmond autos.

 

[nyc3]

Well exactly how is he having his way NYC? From what the dude said, he had gottena case devoid of anything. Then, they agree to send him a replacement case of the newer product since they had nothing to send him from the old product(the one he originally purchased). which is odd in itself. He doesn't(that I recall) mention when this case was originally purchased so if it was anywhere within 6 months or so, they damn well should have had stuff out of that product to send him.

And if you spend the money to get a case, doesn't that entitle you to a case hit? So he wasn't wrong for wanting what normally comes with a case. Then they send him two boxes worth of crappy hits. I'm not even sure if any of them would be considered a case hit. I'm sure there is somebody here who could provide that info.

If I purchased an entire case and got no hits, I would want a fresh case unopened. I'd gladly send the cards I have back(on my own dime even). You buy a case, you're buying it for the chance to pull nice hits. These guys screwed him badly by taking that away from him. It's bad enough when you get shorted a hit out of 1 or 2 boxes. Who the hell buys a case and doesn't want a say so in what they get as a replacement. Would you buy a case of topps product and tell them...oh...ok just send me a bunch of random replacements? Hell no. You'd end up with a stck of Ian Desmond autos.

I agree with most of what you said. Only problem is I dont think someone shorted a hit on a box should get 1 crappy hit and someone who buys a case gets a fresh case. They should like EVERYONE else get the same crappy hits and a case hit as they where supposed to. If they choose to hook him up, that's understandable. But to get a whole new case is silly when for one box they sent you trash. Doing this will only encourage a scam artist to open a case, reseal with no hits and whamo free case time!

And would I want a new case if my case had zero hits? You bet your rear. Now would I get this? No, thats where it gets unfair and very dangerous if they start allowing this.

 

[HPC]

You buy a case, you're buying it for the chance to pull nice hits.

This is just it.

I wouldnt have sent him anything unless he was shorted case hits which are guaranteed. Anything else is, just as you said, a chance. but, as NYC pointed out, there is no backstory to the whole thing that I can find which says what he did and didnt receive.

It is also impropper, IMO, to send the guy the preview box as well.

 

[auburn35]

I don’t know what if anything the person was missing from their original case, but the way I understand the situation is that he was asked by Panini to return his entire “bad” shorted case in exchange for a completely new case. Panini no longer had any of last year’s NT product to offer in exchange, so they offered a full case of this year’s NT product, once it became available.
Having no reason not to believe his story, receiving two previously opened (picked through) preview boxes as a replacement for the full 4 box case that was returned is just wrong and with any luck, it’s a mistake that will be corrected.

 

[morgoth]

I think Panini is wrong in this situation and I believe the guys story.

If you read the posts there are a lot of people posting that remember him posting his case hits from last years bust and what was missing.

He also stated that Panini after reviewing the information he supplied agreed that his case was missing the proper hits and had him send everything back for a case from next years product due to having none of that year left.

I don't see what's so odd about this story. I think these manufacturers can track what cases had what hits in them and know when there is a dud case out there.

I also believe that they make dud cases on purpose as a calculated risk improving their profit margin by making more cases without having to add more case hits.

The odd part to me is that they would send a preview lot out that is easily traced due to the serial numbering. Its like they really didn't care about this issue.

 

[predatorkj]

I think these manufacturers can track what cases had what hits in them and know when there is a dud case out there.
I also believe that they make dud cases on purpose as a calculated risk improving their profit margin by making more cases without having to add more case hits.

You may be onto something there.


As for my point, look, all I am saying is when you buy a box or two, you spend some money. But when you buy a case, you're making a hell of a committment. I'd tend to think they'd take better care of the customers buying cases of their product than they would joe schmo who walked into the shop on a Wendsday and buys a random box. That is how this hobby goes isn't it? You pay $80 at retail for 4 blasters of any product and your chances of pulling anything good are still jack. Yet you go spend that same $80 at a brick and mortar and now all of a sudden you're guaranteed something? How the hell is this any different? The more money you spend the more likely you are to be taken care of. That's all.

 

[Lancemountain]

But to get a whole new case is silly when for one box they sent you trash.

wtf are you talking about. The guy had a case that had no hits, he emailed panini and they agreed to fix the issue according to the guy's wishes.

They didn't fix the issue, they sent him preview cards, and half as much as expected.

I dont think someone shorted a hit on a box should get 1 crappy hit and someone who buys a case gets a fresh case

No offense here, but you don't own the company, who are you to decide what he is due?

It seems like you are more aggravated by Panini sending him the replacement at all more than what was actually sent.