Now that the hype is over.... (RAZOR)

[Leaf]

The big difference that I notice is the disappearance of Brian (as he was on here nearly everday) now that his product is out & he's sold what he's needed to sell, he no longer comes around; & I'm sure some will say that he was "chased off" but I'm not buying that....(I'm wondering when his reappearance will be for the upcoming product)...I hope he doesn't go the way of the other company's head honcho's & say forget you guy's, now that he's gained some hobby recognition (or even worse, if he rent's out some of the "exclusive's" to the competitor's) :?

Im still here... was at disney for 1 week with family and now im working on something BIG!.... Ill be on the boards more this week... promise.... BG

 

[justinmandawg]

The big difference that I notice is the disappearance of Brian (as he was on here nearly everday) now that his product is out & he's sold what he's needed to sell, he no longer comes around; & I'm sure some will say that he was "chased off" but I'm not buying that....(I'm wondering when his reappearance will be for the upcoming product)...I hope he doesn't go the way of the other company's head honcho's & say forget you guy's, now that he's gained some hobby recognition (or even worse, if he rent's out some of the "exclusive's" to the competitor's) :?

Im still here... was at disney for 1 week with family and now im working on something BIG!.... Ill be on the boards more this week... promise.... BG

A family is no excuse.

signed

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[HoustonTeams4Me]

The big difference that I notice is the disappearance of Brian (as he was on here nearly everday) now that his product is out & he's sold what he's needed to sell, he no longer comes around; & I'm sure some will say that he was "chased off" but I'm not buying that....(I'm wondering when his reappearance will be for the upcoming product)...I hope he doesn't go the way of the other company's head honcho's & say forget you guy's, now that he's gained some hobby recognition (or even worse, if he rent's out some of the "exclusive's" to the competitor's) :?

Im still here... was at disney for 1 week with family and now im working on something BIG!.... Ill be on the boards more this week... promise.... BG

A family is no excuse.

signed

********

:lol: Good one! Encore...

 

[HoustonTeams4Me]

The big difference that I notice is the disappearance of Brian (as he was on here nearly everday) now that his product is out & he's sold what he's needed to sell, he no longer comes around; & I'm sure some will say that he was "chased off" but I'm not buying that....(I'm wondering when his reappearance will be for the upcoming product)...I hope he doesn't go the way of the other company's head honcho's & say forget you guy's, now that he's gained some hobby recognition (or even worse, if he rent's out some of the "exclusive's" to the competitor's) :?

Im still here... was at disney for 1 week with family and now im working on something BIG!.... Ill be on the boards more this week... promise.... BG

That's awesome Brian, I hope you guy's had fun as it is a great place to bring the family! I had expressed what I did because I was hoping that you hadn't gone "uppity" on us :lol: ... Your presence here has brought about confidence in the product (at least for me) & after release I hadn't seen ya near as much as before, so I posted my thoughts & fear's (this is a message board); sorry if it was misconstrued or taken the wrong way! Keep up the good work & we'll keep buying your product!

 

[Wes]

At first, it seemed like Razor was just another Tristar, but after seeing some of the breaks these cards are actually selling pretty well. I think that if Razor does not overload their products with the same guys, they will make it. I have bought 2 Posey Razor Autos now and I am happy with them. I just buy singles of Razor as I have not done any packs, but for prospecting purposes, this is a good set. I have to tip my hat to you Brian! Don't overload and you will be good!

Kind of a weird thing to say. First you say you don't want to see repeats yet you buy cards of one of the guys who is in every product out.

 

[Wes]

I wouldn't say I bashed it but I certainly did not support it so to say. Feel the same way. My postion has always been that I wished Razor was never created so that I could get my Alvarez draft auto. :twisted:

Could you imagine how great this years draft set would be if you add Alvarez, Hicks, Matusz, Hosmer and Smoak to the base checklist...Ugh...I get annoyed just thinking about how great it could have been...

That's a big what if. I would guess that many of those names you mentioned would have been held for 09 B W/C and 09 BC.

 

[BGSRCGUY]

Im thinking of buying some Destin Hood. The buy in prices are pretty low, chipping does worry me a tad bit.

 

[matfanofold]

Just a few things...

1. I'm glad RAZOR is still being bought and sold. One of my fears for the product was that thoes who bought in would never recoup anything and end up holding a bunch of worthless junk. This is clearly not what is happening and I am glad to see all the optimisim of this products future value/status in the hobby.

2. It still seems to be pretty clear cut between thoes who bought in and thoes who did not. It will be interesting, to say the least, as to where this product/name goes in the future.

3. Allthough the value of these seems to be low at this point, the fact remains they are nice on card auto's of promising young talent with a limited print run. This alone almost assures a return in the future.

4. I, as well as most I assume, still wish Brian and RAZOR the best. I only wish RAZOR will put out a product I can sink my teeth in to. However, with the prospect theme and recent business endevours, I doubt it will happen.

Thanks Brian for chiming in. I know how busy one can get when dealing with volume business and a family. Although I am yet to purchace or promote your product, I hope you continue your sucess and deliver to thoes who crave what you are cooking!

Thanks, Ron.

 

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These cases will be double what they presold at by the end of this season (09). I bought 0 cases. I will put 100 usd on it if anyone is interested in making that wager.

I may be willing to make this wager. What was the presell amount. If it is close to the current case price, I will definitely make this bet.

cost was 750 / case.

Yeah presell is a little low...I would go by the blowout price at this time.....If it is double(their price) by the date you specify, I will make this friendly wager. Let me know, this is definitely an interesting bet. I know it is not your original bet, but it still is a good bet.

 

[justinmandawg]

These cases will be double what they presold at by the end of this season (09). I bought 0 cases. I will put 100 usd on it if anyone is interested in making that wager.

I may be willing to make this wager. What was the presell amount. If it is close to the current case price, I will definitely make this bet.

cost was 750 / case.

Yeah presell is a little low...I would go by the blowout price at this time.....If it is double(their price) by the date you specify, I will make this friendly wager. Let me know, this is definitely an interesting bet. I know it is not your original bet, but it still is a good bet.

How about double whatever current ebay sales (last 7 days). Blowout will charge insane amounts which aren't relevant unless there are sales. Chris pressures prices all the time whether they are legit or not.

 

[matfanofold]

These cases will be double what they presold at by the end of this season (09). I bought 0 cases. I will put 100 usd on it if anyone is interested in making that wager.

I may be willing to make this wager. What was the presell amount. If it is close to the current case price, I will definitely make this bet.

cost was 750 / case.

Yeah presell is a little low...I would go by the blowout price at this time.....If it is double(their price) by the date you specify, I will make this friendly wager. Let me know, this is definitely an interesting bet. I know it is not your original bet, but it still is a good bet.

Allthough I do not gamble, I think its a safe bet that RAZOR cases will not be $1500+ in 1 year from now.

 

[azbaseballfan]

I am very impressed with the quality of the cards. They look alot better in person, as opposed to scanned.

I think they will have great return considuring that these cards will be there only ones on the market when they hit the MLB. I would buy into razor but I don't really have the money to do it.

 

[kentuckyderby]

These cases will be double what they presold at by the end of this season (09). I bought 0 cases. I will put 100 usd on it if anyone is interested in making that wager.

I may be willing to make this wager. What was the presell amount. If it is close to the current case price, I will definitely make this bet.

cost was 750 / case.

Yeah presell is a little low...I would go by the blowout price at this time.....If it is double(their price) by the date you specify, I will make this friendly wager. Let me know, this is definitely an interesting bet. I know it is not your original bet, but it still is a good bet.

How about double whatever current ebay sales (last 7 days). Blowout will charge insane amounts which aren't relevant unless there are sales. Chris pressures prices all the time whether they are legit or not.

One recentlyended for 650 (100 less than the 750 deal Razor was giving to the distrib)

Making a bet on 2X the 650 wouldn't be ideal since it is less than the initial 750

About average case cost on eBay during first week was 820 (I am not factoring in any of the live.com stuff since that wouldn't be fair to the bet either)

 

[justinmandawg]

[quote="justinmandawg":2sxwnq7p]These cases will be double what they presold at by the end of this season (09). I bought 0 cases. I will put 100 usd on it if anyone is interested in making that wager.

I may be willing to make this wager. What was the presell amount. If it is close to the current case price, I will definitely make this bet.

cost was 750 / case.

Yeah presell is a little low...I would go by the blowout price at this time.....If it is double(their price) by the date you specify, I will make this friendly wager. Let me know, this is definitely an interesting bet. I know it is not your original bet, but it still is a good bet.

How about double whatever current ebay sales (last 7 days). Blowout will charge insane amounts which aren't relevant unless there are sales. Chris pressures prices all the time whether they are legit or not.

One recentlyended for 650 (100 less than the 750 deal Razor was giving to the distrib)

Making a bet on 2X the 650 wouldn't be ideal since it is less than the initial 750

About average case cost on eBay during first week was 820 (I am not factoring in any of the live.com stuff since that wouldn't be fair to the bet either)[/quote:2sxwnq7p]

It's also as relevant as blowout's price. The bet is being made now and not the first week of release.

 

[kentuckyderby]

The last 3 cases that sold on Ebay went for 679, 635, 810.

I am not in on the bet at the moment so it doesn't matter to me which # is used in the "Razor cases will be doubled a year from now" bet

Personally, I think using any # less than 750 (what Razor charged to the distrib) is ridiculous if the point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. Shouldn't really base the bet on sales that were at a loss. (anything less than 750)

So......Is this the bet? --------In December 2009, will a case sell for over $1,500? (assuming no live.com discounts or any other discounts involved)

If they do sell for over 1500, I will be jumping for joy next Christmas since I haven't sold any of my singles yet and plan on sitting on them since it is a buyer's market right now and don't want to sell the higher-priced singles yet.

 

[justinmandawg]

The last 3 cases that sold on Ebay went for 679, 635, 810.

I am not in on the bet at the moment so it doesn't matter to me which # is used in the "Razor cases will be doubled a year from now" bet

Personally, I think using any # less than 750 (what Razor charged to the distrib) is ridiculous if the point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. Shouldn't really base the bet on sales that were at a loss. (anything less than 750)

So......Is this the bet? --------In December 2009, will a case sell for over $1,500? (assuming no live.com discounts or any other discounts involved)

If they do sell for over 1500, I will be jumping for joy next Christmas since I haven't sold any of my singles yet and plan on sitting on them since it is a buyer's market right now and don't want to sell the higher-priced singles yet.

The point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. The point of an investment is to buy as cheap and sell as high as possible. If prices were higher than they currently are it wouldn't prove or disprove anything.

I'd do 1500 a case as a price I think they will reach. I believe they will go higher but I'm not as sure as the price increases.

I'm holding anything razor that I bust in the near future.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

The last 3 cases that sold on Ebay went for 679, 635, 810.

I am not in on the bet at the moment so it doesn't matter to me which # is used in the "Razor cases will be doubled a year from now" bet

Personally, I think using any # less than 750 (what Razor charged to the distrib) is ridiculous if the point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. Shouldn't really base the bet on sales that were at a loss. (anything less than 750)

So......Is this the bet? --------In December 2009, will a case sell for over $1,500? (assuming no live.com discounts or any other discounts involved)

If they do sell for over 1500, I will be jumping for joy next Christmas since I haven't sold any of my singles yet and plan on sitting on them since it is a buyer's market right now and don't want to sell the higher-priced singles yet.

The point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. The point of an investment is to buy as cheap and sell as high as possible. If prices were higher than they currently are it wouldn't prove or disprove anything.

I'd do 1500 a case as a price I think they will reach. I believe they will go higher but I'm not as sure as the price increases.

I'm holding anything razor that I bust in the near future.

I think Razor's popularity had a lot to do with the live.com discount. I think a lot of people bought Razor boxes/cases -- and I plan on doing so should it ever come back -- with the live discount, at a substantial below cost price, with a minimal investment risk. I wonder what the market would have been like if cases were costing $800-850 rather than $550-600 after the live discount.

 

[Wes]

The last 3 cases that sold on Ebay went for 679, 635, 810.

I am not in on the bet at the moment so it doesn't matter to me which # is used in the "Razor cases will be doubled a year from now" bet

Personally, I think using any # less than 750 (what Razor charged to the distrib) is ridiculous if the point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. Shouldn't really base the bet on sales that were at a loss. (anything less than 750)

So......Is this the bet? --------In December 2009, will a case sell for over $1,500? (assuming no live.com discounts or any other discounts involved)

If they do sell for over 1500, I will be jumping for joy next Christmas since I haven't sold any of my singles yet and plan on sitting on them since it is a buyer's market right now and don't want to sell the higher-priced singles yet.

The point of the bet is to prove that Razor is a good investment. The point of an investment is to buy as cheap and sell as high as possible. If prices were higher than they currently are it wouldn't prove or disprove anything.

I'd do 1500 a case as a price I think they will reach. I believe they will go higher but I'm not as sure as the price increases.

I'm holding anything razor that I bust in the near future.

I think Razor's popularity had a lot to do with the live.com discount. I think a lot of people bought Razor boxes/cases -- and I plan on doing so should it ever come back -- with the live discount, at a substantial below cost price, with a minimal investment risk. I wonder what the market would have been like if cases were costing $800-850 rather than $550-600 after the live discount.

I wouldn't have bought my case without the Live.com discount. Then again I wouldn't have bought 5 cases of draft without it either.

 

[tide12champrings]

I can't wait until Spring!!!!

 

[kentuckyderby]

I agree Jeff
That's why I think any bet about Razor going for 1500+ cannot includea future live.com discount in Dec 2009
(the discount screws up the point of the bet)

One case recently sold for 810...will cases hit 1620 in 12 months? That would be interesting.