Now that the hype is over.... (RAZOR)

[BowmanChromeAddict]

Well, I know of a handfull of people that have broken multiple cases, so some stuff needs to be sold to get some investment back. Those said people are also buying the guys they like, just like the prospectors they are (myself included).

I broke one case, and I really plan to hold a few guys I really like. I busted the case to support Razor and to give wax a shot after 4 years. Mt last cases were 2004 BCDP, 2 of them.

See the second part of what you said I can understand but the first is a bit weird. Did these people buy over their heads? Why would they take much less now when in a year or 3 they may be worth much more?

I busted 10 cases. I paid for them with a credit card, you can call that over my head or whatever, but I believed in this product. Either way, I have to recoup money to pay the credit card bill, so I have to sell. I'm doing quite well so far and believe I'm in great position to keep some cards (Gose, Hewitt, and 1 Hosmer Double Black Auto /5), buy some that I want, and pay off the CC. Some prices are lower than I'd like, but all I needed to do was get an average of $6 per auto assuming zero value out of anything else and I'm actually getting decent prices out of my Black /200. I still need to sell base sets or singles...should have moved them right away, but as Phil Mason knows, I'm lazy like that (or stupid or a little of both). I went the route of BIN with Best Offer and since that tends to drag out the process, the market is no longer flooded and I'm finding that offer prices are increasing and still coming in steadily.

 

[abe1]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

 

[Pete14Rose]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Excellent post.

 

[cgilmo]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

They are short staffed, obviously. And Brian was pulling double duty running edgeman and razor. With Edgeman going away, he should have more resources to pump into razor. I have talked to him about his website before, and he says there is one in development. I imagine they would outsource it, as they don't have the manpower with the talent to do a nice website.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Ironic. One of my first posts about Razor was criticizing their website because, at the time, I was interested in putting up thousands of dollars for cases of their product but couldn't find any info on their product.

 

[justinmandawg]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Ironic. One of my first posts about Razor was criticizing their website because, at the time, I was interested in putting up thousands of dollars for cases of their product but couldn't find any info on their product.

That's not ironic.

 

[Wes]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

I'm gonna go with short staffed. There are only four of them and I believe they are going to make an entirely new website at some point.

 

[abe1]

Chris, thanks for the quick reply. Makes sense (the short-staffed answer). The danger though is real: If it drags on too long it may cause people to lose faith in the company- outside the card biz, I run across a site that goes too long without updating and I wonder if they’re still in business. That’s obviously not accurate in this case, nor the mistaken message an upstart wants to send, particularly in this economy. Far be it for me to tell someone else how to run their business, but the simplest update to the current site with a current dateline might be a good idea.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Ironic. One of my first posts about Razor was criticizing their website because, at the time, I was interested in putting up thousands of dollars for cases of their product but couldn't find any info on their product.

No, it's not ironic.

Can you explain to me why you always want to point out something you supposedly said first? Do you need the recognition and ego-stroke that bad?

Golf clap.

 

[cgilmo]

Chris, thanks for the quick reply. Makes sense (the short-staffed answer). The danger though is real: If it drags on too long it may cause people to lose faith in the company- outside the card biz, I run across a site that goes too long without updating and I wonder if they’re still in business. That’s obviously not accurate in this case, nor the mistaken message an upstart wants to send, particularly in this economy. Far be it for me to tell someone else how to run their business, but the simplest update to the current site with a current dateline might be a good idea.

These type of questions need to be asked. I cannot say that it is not a concern of mine as well. I try to know as much about what goes on there as I can, if you have any questions feel free to ask.

 

[bballcardkid]

I would like to buy some Razor right now but here are the reasons I'm not...

1.) I'm on a tight budget
2.) The money I do have, is going towards other projects that I believe will be more profitable within the next 8 months.
3.) Well, that's it

 

[Bob Loblaw]

You can dismiss me as a troller because this is my first post, or assume an anti-Razor bias, but I think this is a fair question…

In (nearly) 2009, isn’t it important to have a web presence?

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/ hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Ironic. One of my first posts about Razor was criticizing their website because, at the time, I was interested in putting up thousands of dollars for cases of their product but couldn't find any info on their product.

No, it's not ironic.

Can you explain to me why you always want to point out something you supposedly said first? Do you need the recognition and ego-stroke that bad?

Golf clap.

The personal insults and attacks aren't needed, Adam.

I said three months ago that they have a lousy web presence. Three months later, the product is released, and the OP believes they still have a lousy web presence. The more things change.....

 

[cgilmo]

It's still not ironic.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

It's still not ironic.

Like rain on your wedding day.

 

[cgilmo]

It's still not ironic.

Like rain on your wedding day.

That isn't ironic either, just unfortunate.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

It's still not ironic.

Like rain on your wedding day.

That isn't ironic either, just unfortunate.

I'm aware.

The irony I spoke of is that I was immediately labeled a "razorbasher" when I posted how important a web presence was, and that Razor's was lacking three months ago, while in this case, the OP is not.

Such is life on the FCB.

...and before anyone says anything else, as I posted a dozen msgs ago, I plan on grabbing a case as soon as live.com is operational again.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

http://www.razorcollectibles.com/[/url] hasn’t been updated since 10.9.08

Let’s say I was somebody who wasn’t a FCB member but was interested in prospecting and wanted to find out more about a new product?

This seems like an obvious hole in the Razor marketing plan. Short-staffed? This isn’t where I’d cut corners. Or is it a budget issue?

For Razor to succeed – and your investment in their cards to pay off on a long-term scale- they’re going to have to better establish the brand outside FCB. Seems like a having a reasonably updated website might be a start.

Anyone that talks to Brian know the deal?

Ironic. One of my first posts about Razor was criticizing their website because, at the time, I was interested in putting up thousands of dollars for cases of their product but couldn't find any info on their product.

No, it's not ironic.

Can you explain to me why you always want to point out something you supposedly said first? Do you need the recognition and ego-stroke that bad?

Golf clap.

The personal insults and attacks aren't needed, Adam.

I said three months ago that they have a lousy web presence. Three months later, the product is released, and the OP believes they still have a lousy web presence. The more things change.....[/quote:h4acsc67]

Personal insults and attacks? What???

I merely asked you a question. If you find any insults/attacks, then you are really out of your mind.

 

[NECpilgrims8]

[quote="Jeff N.":qwed2nxq]

It's still not ironic.

Like rain on your wedding day.

That isn't ironic either, just unfortunate.

I'm aware.

The irony I spoke of is that I was immediately labeled a "razorbasher" when I posted how important a web presence was, and that Razor's was lacking three months ago, while in this case, the OP is not.

Such is life on the FCB.

...and before anyone says anything else, as I posted a dozen msgs ago, I plan on grabbing a case as soon as live.com is operational again.[/quote:qwed2nxq]

Still, it's not ironic.

Woe is Jeff. So misunderstood. Noone remembers his posts. So neglected on the FCB.

Happy?

 

[rookierolodex]

It's still not ironic.

Like rain on your wedding day.

:lol: :lol:
I think everyone jumps to conclusion when a post is made either way towards Razor. There are obvious people on here who Over Defend Razor, and vice versa, I for one just dont like the product design so thats a big reason why I didnt buy any and I will always be a chrome/sterling guy first, then everything else. But I enjoy reading the posts and seeing both sides go at it, very funny IMO, and Jeff great line :lol:

 

[justinmandawg]

no need for name calling from the guy calling another "shadow"