Oh Super Sweet 90's Inserts.... #3

[Jhileman79]

Here are a few 90’s from my Yankee PC

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[bstanwood]

1994 leaf inserts almost made my head explode when they came out, that mattingly is faaaaaaaaaantastic!

 

[chippercards.com]

As for rarity those 97 pinnacle inside diamond editions are some of my favorites. How many were pulled by booger eating 8 year olds at their local Sports Authority? Super tough to find and very challenging distribution. Passively working on the set but I only have maybe 20-30 of them.


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[chris19978]

My latest pickup it’s been a while but the price was right on this.


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[chris19978]

Anyway on the print run how many do you think were released on the Select Numbers? My understanding it was supposed to be based off of the back number which for Jeter was 370 for his OBP. But I only see 9 that have been graded by PSA and Beckett. I am guessing probably 20 copies were released.


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[tidel144]

Anyway on the print run how many do you think were released on the Select Numbers? My understanding it was supposed to be based off of the back number which for Jeter was 370 for his OBP. But I only see 9 that have been graded by PSA and Beckett. I am guessing probably 20 copies were released.


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Yes - the number/statistic on the back of the card is what these were supposed to be numbered to. So your Jeter was supposed to have been /370. The numbering varies by player and statistic in the set - AVG, OBP, HRs, and Pitching Ks were the stat categories assigned to various players in the set so naturally the players with the HR statistic featured had lower print runs than the AVG/OBP/K statistics.

 

[Jhileman79]

Anyway on the print run how many do you think were released on the Select Numbers? My understanding it was supposed to be based off of the back number which for Jeter was 370 for his OBP. But I only see 9 that have been graded by PSA and Beckett. I am guessing probably 20 copies were released.


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All of them walked out the back door from Pinnacle. They were never released. That is why they were so rare before. But in the past few years the market was flooded by one collector releasing his stash.


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[nosterbor]

All of them walked out the back door from Pinnacle. They were never released. That is why they were so rare before. But in the past few years the market was flooded by one collector releasing his stash.


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Yes and asking BILLIONS!

 

[mrmopar]

I can't help but wonder what kind of long term staying power that these niche inserts hold for collectors. I know when they first started popping out of product, they were well received and got very hot in some cases (Fleer Team Leaders, Rookie Sensations, Donruss Elites, etc). The whole thing cooled down for a while. I don't recall the exact time frame, but I remember picking up some of the harder to find cards that used to be "big $$" for what I thought was too cheap. Then they started heating up again and seem to have gone up and up without hesitation ever since.

Aside from the proofs and prototypes, most of these were unnumbered and not limited relatively speaking. For example, the 92 Elites were what, 10,000 copies? I also realize that the 1/1 craze worn thin on most people as the card makers continue to spit out multiple upon multiple 1/1 cards each issue. Still, thinking people are fighting over cards with 50 and 100 print runs like they are as unique as a 1/1 is mind boggling to me, yet cards numbered to 5 and 10 copies even today can and often do under perform against 90s inserts with much higher print runs.

I am very glad Garvey is only represented in that era with a small selection of cards. I don't envy any collectors of the big name current stars of the time (Griffey, Thomas, Ripken, etc) unless you got in cheap and early.

 

[chris19978]

Yeah I know but it’s a great feeling when you achieve certain goals. If I ever get the Jeter Mirror Gold it will complete my Masterpiece. I will probe slowly picking up some of his 1997 cards I am missing. I know where a few are I can buy now. I have the 1 of 1’s on my list but they are never going to happen


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[chris19978]

I am possibly going to buy the 1997 Bowman's Best Mirror Image Atomic Refractor Inverted #MI1 Jeter card but we are a few hundred dollars off on are price what do you believe is a fair price for a BGS 9 copy? I will not post are prices offered just want to see what are people’s opinions as for a buying price.


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[Letch77]

I hear ya...1/1s don't even appeal to me. I agree with you that the 1/1 gimmick fizzled out quickly because card companies started producing hundreds of them, so they essentially lost their appeal. Not to mention that card designs of today look like they have ADHD. A 1996 Select Certified Mirror card with its simple design is much more beautiful than a 2018 Bowman Chrome Mojo Refractor which has way too much going on. It's basically like comparing Scarlett Johansson to Nikki Minaj. :lol:

 

[chris19978]

Not bad got this for under$280 and will be getting $22.00 in eBay bucks.


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[Joey_peapod]

I can't help but wonder what kind of long term staying power that these niche inserts hold for collectors. I know when they first started popping out of product, they were well received and got very hot in some cases (Fleer Team Leaders, Rookie Sensations, Donruss Elites, etc). The whole thing cooled down for a while. I don't recall the exact time frame, but I remember picking up some of the harder to find cards that used to be "big $$" for what I thought was too cheap. Then they started heating up again and seem to have gone up and up without hesitation ever since.

Aside from the proofs and prototypes, most of these were unnumbered and not limited relatively speaking. For example, the 92 Elites were what, 10,000 copies? I also realize that the 1/1 craze worn thin on most people as the card makers continue to spit out multiple upon multiple 1/1 cards each issue. Still, thinking people are fighting over cards with 50 and 100 print runs like they are as unique as a 1/1 is mind boggling to me, yet cards numbered to 5 and 10 copies even today can and often do under perform against 90s inserts with much higher print runs.

I am very glad Garvey is only represented in that era with a small selection of cards. I don't envy any collectors of the big name current stars of the time (Griffey, Thomas, Ripken, etc) unless you got in cheap and early.

I still don’t get why people don’t get why a /50 or /100 has more appeal and usually more value though usually that’s a /10-/25 with the more value part. Just because a card is stamped /10 doesn’t automatically make it rare. It’s not strictly about a print run.


I can only think of around 5-6 90s 1/1 that would outsell any anything else from the 90s. Today it’s manufactured scarcity. Mirror gold for example. There are 3 layers. Any newer year bowman chrome there are legit like 20 colors.

 

[Joey_peapod]

I can't help but wonder what kind of long term staying power that these niche inserts hold for collectors. I know when they first started popping out of product, they were well received and got very hot in some cases (Fleer Team Leaders, Rookie Sensations, Donruss Elites, etc). The whole thing cooled down for a while. I don't recall the exact time frame, but I remember picking up some of the harder to find cards that used to be "big $$" for what I thought was too cheap. Then they started heating up again and seem to have gone up and up without hesitation ever since.

Aside from the proofs and prototypes, most of these were unnumbered and not limited relatively speaking. For example, the 92 Elites were what, 10,000 copies? I also realize that the 1/1 craze worn thin on most people as the card makers continue to spit out multiple upon multiple 1/1 cards each issue. Still, thinking people are fighting over cards with 50 and 100 print runs like they are as unique as a 1/1 is mind boggling to me, yet cards numbered to 5 and 10 copies even today can and often do under perform against 90s inserts with much higher print runs.

I am very glad Garvey is only represented in that era with a small selection of cards. I don't envy any collectors of the big name current stars of the time (Griffey, Thomas, Ripken, etc) unless you got in cheap and early.

I still don’t get why people don’t get why a /50 or /100 has more appeal and usually more value though usually that’s a /10-/25 with the more value part. Just because a card is stamped /10 doesn’t automatically make it rare. It’s not strictly about a print run.


I can only think of around 5-6 90s 1/1 that would outsell any anything else from the 90s. Today it’s manufactured scarcity. Mirror gold for example. There are 3 layers. Any newer year bowman chrome there are legit like 20 colors.

 

[mrmopar]

In the end, no matter how popular a card may be, there is still only a set quantity of any given one. Whether it was 1:Billion pull from an issue printed in the Trillions (92 Donruss Maybe?) or the only copy of each card from an issue that only had a print run of 100 cards in total, it will always come down to supply and demand. Obviously in some cases, the demand for a x/50 is greater than a x/5, but I guess my point is that some of the hotter cards in the 50-100 print range are pretty bland to put it nicely. The demand in those cases seems less about the appeal of the card and more about having it (to me at least), yet the same may not apply to a card numbered to 10 because there is no hype about it.

I suppose that is what makes collecting items something many people can enjoy, because we don't all appeal to the same exact thing.

I still don’t get why people don’t get why a /50 or /100 has more appeal and usually more value though usually that’s a /10-/25 with the more value part. Just because a card is stamped /10 doesn’t automatically make it rare. It’s not strictly about a print run.


I can only think of around 5-6 90s 1/1 that would outsell any anything else from the 90s. Today it’s manufactured scarcity. Mirror gold for example. There are 3 layers. Any newer year bowman chrome there are legit like 20 colors.

 

[Brewer Andy]

In the end, no matter how popular a card may be, there is still only a set quantity of any given one. Whether it was 1:Billion pull from an issue printed in the Trillions (92 Donruss Maybe?) or the only copy of each card from an issue that only had a print run of 100 cards in total, it will always come down to supply and demand. Obviously in some cases, the demand for a x/50 is greater than a x/5, but I guess my point is that some of the hotter cards in the 50-100 print range are pretty bland to put it nicely. The demand in those cases seems less about the appeal of the card and more about having it (to me at least), yet the same may not apply to a card numbered to 10 because there is no hype about it.

I suppose that is what makes collecting items something many people can enjoy, because we don't all appeal to the same exact thing.

Agree and doing a little digging you can always find something that appeals to you personally that will make YOU feel like you’re getting a great deal because you value it more. I’m on board with your other comments, I 100% do not get the appeal of a few of the high demand cards. Quite a few cards actually that are so hideous or so lame parallel-wise that even needing it crossed off a list doesn’t make me want to pay a gross price for it. I’d legit rather not have it at all


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[chris19978]

That’s why my goal has always been to complete the 1992 to 1996 Jeter collection. I know 1997 to 1999 will never happen. Then you start talking about the newer cards you gave to have major money to even stand a chance on a big named player with 20 variations and 5 are 1 if 1 in one set. My biggest mistake was not concentrating with this early I have collected Jeter since 1996 or 1997 but I bought other players as well. If I had just stuck getting him I would probably have 90% of his 90’s collection. The best way to do this is once you pick a player grab everything new you can cause as the years go it will be harder to find and in some cases will cost you more. The last 1996 Select Certified Mirror Gold Jeter that sold under $1,000.00 was in 2010 and bought by Small Traditions and resold a few years later for $4,000 and after that it’s been over $10,000. I would like to see what a Griffey Mirror Gold would sell for now cause the last one I remember was years ago for $8,000 on eBay.


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[tidel144]

Latest BaseballCardPedia.com website updates!

Completed the editing of a top 3 favorite brand of mine: Fleer/Skybox's E-X brand, from 1995-2000. Pictures added + detailed descriptions of set, inserts, and parallels added. Specifically the Essential Credentials sections were massively overhauled and explained:

1995 E-Motion: https://goo.gl/XpZqQb
1996 E-Motion XL: https://goo.gl/6aggKk
1997 E-X2000: https://goo.gl/3BRF3D
1998 E-X2001: https://goo.gl/5Qt967
1999 E-X Century: https://goo.gl/B6P8nT
2000 E-X: https://goo.gl/Wukam8

Pages for Fleer/Skybox's other major high-end brand were updated. Major updates were made to the Masterpieces sections to highlight their hobby impact and a detailed section on the counterfeit 1998 Legacies were added:

1993 Flair: https://goo.gl/5Vm7JZ
1994 Flair: https://goo.gl/TMyxdg
1995 Flair: https://goo.gl/WhRSHv
1996 Flair: https://goo.gl/yej8Hj
1997 Flair Showcase: https://goo.gl/rCtVGq
1998 Flair Showcase: https://goo.gl/d7AoRj
1999 Flair Showcase: https://goo.gl/DeQ83d

Lastly, updates to the mid-'90s Leaf brand run up to its end from the D/L/P bankruptcy. Major updates were made to the Fractal Matrix and Fractal Materials parallel sections in the '97/98 pages for clarity and understanding. Additionally, the 1990-1993 Leaf pages were recently updated by the lead contributor at the website:

1994 Leaf: https://goo.gl/rwvagd
1995 Leaf: https://goo.gl/35zreW
1996 Leaf: https://goo.gl/bxoirU
1997 Leaf: https://goo.gl/ECGQcN
1998 Leaf: https://goo.gl/ipN5NE
1998 Fractal Materials: https://goo.gl/ze5qbz

 

[linuxabuser]

[MENTION=11259]tidel144[/MENTION] - nice work. Really benefits the community.