One of these cards sports a fake patch... but which one?

[cgilmo]

http://cgi.ebay.com/06-National-Treasur ... 2ea888e9ed

 

[Groat]

The Lewis patch looks like it's lesser quality to me. That would be my sole reason for choosing it over the other, assuming that one has to be real.

 

[Card Magnet]

The MJD has no stitching marks where the patch meets the jersey, but the Marcades does. I vote that the MJD is fake.

 

[deceptikon1978]

I'm no expert, but you can clearly tell they are not the same. I am gonna say the MJD is fake. It just looks like it came off a hat or something.

 

[jeff550]

The MJD has no stitching marks where the patch meets the jersey, but the Marcades does. I vote that the MJD is fake.

i voted the mjd is real becuase it had the white but i didnt notice that there was no stiching. so i change my vote

 

[trademhigh]

So, which one was it gilmore?

 

[wheeler281]

Hey Fellas they are all real. That was a subset in 06 treasures. In fact Worley had that lewis at one point

Here is a pic of my Holmes from that year

1/1

Here is a link to a ton more that year

http://www.freewebs.com/jdworley/06nattreas11.htm

 

[trademhigh]

Hey Fellas they are all real.

That's what I was thinking at first! I figured since there wasn't a poll option for it, then they both must be fake. But, how can you be certain both are real? Someone could have easily taken a marginal patch out and inserted one of those.

 

[wheeler281]

casue they each had a team logo done. I will try to find the checklist see if I have one laying around

 

[cartersprings]

I voted the Lewis as being fake, based on the material and how big the patch would be. Look at how wide the head is on the Lewis compared to the MJD. I could be wrong.

Also, the MJD states it's "game-used" whereas the Lewis says "event-used". Could the Lewis be from a different style or a throwback (not that the Jags have many years)?

 

[wheeler281]

nope(did you guys check jdworleys link) Treasures in 06 used game worn for a handful of rookies and event used for the rest. Holmes, Leon Washington, Ajhawk(I think hawk might have been event worn) MJD all game used. There were others too but do not know them all

Here is Worleys link again
http://www.freewebs.com/jdworley/06nattreas11.htm

and a close up of Holmes game worn

 

[mstng99tim]

Well, assuming that Gilmo knows for sure that one is fake, the fake one HAS TO BE the MJD. The Lewis is the exact same card that Worley has on his page, and I would imagine looking at his collection that he bought them all as soon as they showed up on ebay.

 

[wheeler281]

edit just checked the checklist . MJD did have a logo produced

2006 Playoff National Treasures (Football) DownLoad
Rookie Jumbo Prime Materials Platinum
# Person Seq.
101
Anthony Fasano Dallas Cowboys

Anthony Fasano
TE-
1
102 Bobby Carpenter Dallas Cowboys

Bobby Carpenter
LB-
1
103
D'Brickashaw Ferguson

D'Brickashaw Ferguson
OFL- New York Jets
1
104 Jay Cutler
QB- Denver Broncos

Jay Cutler
1
105 Joe Klopfenstein St. Louis Rams

Joe Klopfenstein
TE-
1
106 John David Washington
RB-

John David Washington St. Louis Rams

John David Washington
1
107 Joseph Addai Indianapolis Colts

Joseph Addai
RB-

Joseph Addai
1
108
Laurence Maroney
RB- New England Patriots

Laurence Maroney
1
109
Mario Williams
DE-

Mario Williams Houston Texans
1
110
Mathias Kiwanuka New York Giants

Mathias Kiwanuka
DE-
1
111
Matt Leinart
QB- Arizona Cardinals
1
112
Santonio Holmes

Santonio Holmes
WR- Pittsburgh Steelers
1
113
Sinorice Moss
WR- New York Giants
1
114
Tye Hill
CB- St. Louis Rams

1
115
Vince Young
QB-

Vince Young Tennessee Titans
1
116
Brandon Marshall
WR- Denver Broncos
1
117 Brandon Williams San Francisco 49ers

Brandon Williams
WR-
1
118
Brian Calhoun
RB- Detroit Lions
1
119
Omar Jacobs
QB- Pittsburgh Steelers
1
120 AJ Hawk Green Bay Packers

AJ Hawk
LB-

AJ Hawk
1
121
Chad Jackson
WR- New England Patriots
1
122 DeAngelo Williams

DeAngelo Williams
RB- Carolina Panthers

1
123
Demetrius Williams

Demetrius Williams
WR- Baltimore Ravens
1
124
Derek Hagan
WR-

Derek Hagan Miami Dolphins
1
125 Jason Avant
WR- Philadelphia Eagles

1
126
Jerious Norwood
RB- Atlanta Falcons
1
127
Kellen Clemens New York Jets

Kellen Clemens
QB-
1
128 LenDale White
RB- Tennessee Titans

1
129
Leon Washington
RB-

Leon Washington New York Jets
1
130
Marcedes Lewis
TE- Jacksonville Jaguars
1
131 Maurice Jones-Drew
RB-

Maurice Jones-Drew Jacksonville Jaguars
1
132 Maurice Stovall

Maurice Stovall
WR- Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1
133
Michael Huff
S- Oakland Raiders

Michael Huff
1
134 Michael Robinson
RB- San Francisco 49ers

1
135
Tarvaris Jackson
QB- Minnesota Vikings

Tarvaris Jackson
1
136
1
137
Vernon Davis
TE- San Francisco 49ers

Vernon Davis
1
138
Charlie Whitehurst
QB-

Charlie Whitehurst San Diego Chargers
1
139 Brad Smith

Brad Smith
WR- New York Jets
1
140 Bruce Gradkowski Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Bruce Gradkowski

Bruce Gradkowski
QB-
1
141
Hank Baskett Philadelphia Eagles

Hank Baskett
WR-
1
142
Mike Bell
RB- Denver Broncos

1
143
Reggie Bush
RB- New Orleans Saints

Reggie Bush
1
144 Devin Hester
CB-

Devin Hester Chicago Bears
1
145
Jerome Harrison
RB- Cleveland Browns
1
146
Brodie Croyle Kansas City Chiefs

Brodie Croyle
QB-
1

 

[Viking4Alpha]

Here's the thing, unless there is a "before and after picture" of either card, they are both:

C.) Real and fake. You cannot prove otherwise. 2007 Treasures started the Kodak ink authentication process. This did not exist in 2006.

BTW- I used to own the Devin Hester 1/1 in that subset. It also had a logo patch.

 

[wheeler281]

checklist provided platinum foil being the key on both indicate type.

 

[Brad]

The Marcedes may be pack pulled, but that is not a legit logo. Look at the MJD and google Jaguars logo. Notice how the MJD and the ones on google have a black line above the mouth, while the Marcedes does not.

 

[wheeler281]

lol whatever my god man. Worley bought that mercedes orignally in 06 during a box break on the old beckett. Let alone the checklist matches for both LMAO

 

[trademhigh]

The Marcedes may be pack pulled, but that is not a legit logo. Look at the MJD and google Jaguars logo. Notice how the MJD and the ones on google have a black line above the mouth, while the Marcedes does not.

Disclaimer: I voted for the MJD (sorry, I wrote the wrong on here) being fake (though I wasn't certain).

Is the logo the exact same for both home and away? I mean, I'd figure it would be, but it is possible it isn't. The Lewis Logo has a white background, while the Jones-Drew has a green background.

 

[Brad]

lol whatever my god man. Worley bought that mercedes orignally in 06 during a box break on the old beckett. Let alone the checklist matches for both LMAO

I never said the card was not legit (ie not in pack pulled condition). I am saying the logo in it not legit. Here it is. Look at the red circles.

 

[wheeler281]

The Marcedes may be pack pulled, but that is not a legit logo. Look at the MJD and google Jaguars logo. Notice how the MJD and the ones on google have a black line above the mouth, while the Marcedes does not.

Disclaimer: I voted for the Lewis being fake (though I wasn't certain).

Is the logo the exact same for both home and away? I mean, I'd figure it would be, but it is possible it isn't. The Lewis Logo has a white background, while the Jones-Drew has a green background.

no clue what they used for the event ones. scns scew colors as well. Why I like digitals
Brad show me whatever the card is the one issued worn during event so who knows what they wore. The card is legit as isssued by Donruss and pulled by a Beckett member LOL Thus why one is event and not game worn proving why that is not issued game worn

I have Holmes event worns that are sewn logos and not the real game worn like one I used to have below but are worded event worn like the one below not an actual game worn jersey logo but event worn

Notice sewn patch not the normal one like the Holmes above.

Regardless the answer to the ops pool is niether