OT- Well, it finally happened to me..

[pujolsthomefan33]

pete and tk - i do appreciate your opinions and input, but we definitely see things differently on this subject.

Fair enough---but you do realize that this would have been 100% non issue if even by sending it in the PWE and just gone to the post office and paid for the .58 cent hand canceled/non-machineable service...


TK

 

[dodgerchromie]

pete and tk - i do appreciate your opinions and input, but we definitely see things differently on this subject.

Fair enough---but you do realize that this would have been 100% non issue if even by sending it in the PWE and just gone to the post office and paid for the .58 cent hand canceled/non-machineable service...


TK

I had no idea they even offered that service. :x

 

[MojoDan]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.


TK

Could you share please? Thank you!

+1

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.


TK

Could you share please? Thank you!

Yes I will, I will make a post about it tonight with the 3 places I have bought from that all have bubble mailers that will work at .62 cents for 1 card. Also, I do all of this at the post office and get everything metered so there is no room for discussion....once a postal employee meters it, it is done. It is the thickness that is making the difference.

You have all seen the little cardboard things with a slot in it they use to check....that is the difference between .62 and $1.17. The envelopes I use for 1 card will fit through the slot, 2 cards or more, and it is upcharged. DO NOT LET THE POSTAL EMPLOYEE TELL YOU DIFFERENT--I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH ON THIS!!!!!

I am work now and dont have time to get all the info, but I will gladly pull it all together tonight and let you know where I buy from. It breaks down between 5-10 cents a bubble mailer depending how big of bulk you buy in.


TK

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

pete and tk - i do appreciate your opinions and input, but we definitely see things differently on this subject.

Fair enough---but you do realize that this would have been 100% non issue if even by sending it in the PWE and just gone to the post office and paid for the .58 cent hand canceled/non-machineable service...


TK

I had no idea that they even offered that service. :x

yes, when sending things through the mail, you have two options....standard .42 cent stamp, goes through the machines, yada yada yada...

the other option is to go in and pay for a .58 cent stamp and the employee will hand cancel it and mark in non-machineable and you are done.

The 15 cent price difference is the cost of handling and the fact that they are going somewhat outside of their normal procedure. And they do have .58 cent stamps in books you can buy and even mark yourself, but I would still take them inside and hand to someone so they know for sure not to machine them.


TK

 

[IndyManning18]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.


TK

Could you share please? Thank you!

Yes I will, I will make a post about it tonight with the 3 places I have bought from that all have bubble mailers that will work at .62 cents for 1 card. Also, I do all of this at the post office and get everything metered so there is no room for discussion....once a postal employee meters it, it is done. It is the thickness that is making the difference.

You have all seen the little cardboard things with a slot in it they use to check....that is the difference between .62 and $1.17. The envelopes I use for 1 card will fit through the slot, 2 cards or more, and it is upcharged. DO NOT LET THE POSTAL EMPLOYEE TELL YOU DIFFERENT--I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH ON THIS!!!!!

I am work now and dont have time to get all the info, but I will gladly pull it all together tonight and let you know where I buy from. It breaks down between 5-10 cents a bubble mailer depending how big of bulk you buy in.


TK

TK, do not these thin bubble mailers go through the same machine that letters run through??
It is my understanding that they do. Plus, it has to be of a certain thickness to put DC.

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.


TK

Could you share please? Thank you!

Yes I will, I will make a post about it tonight with the 3 places I have bought from that all have bubble mailers that will work at .62 cents for 1 card. Also, I do all of this at the post office and get everything metered so there is no room for discussion....once a postal employee meters it, it is done. It is the thickness that is making the difference.

You have all seen the little cardboard things with a slot in it they use to check....that is the difference between .62 and $1.17. The envelopes I use for 1 card will fit through the slot, 2 cards or more, and it is upcharged. DO NOT LET THE POSTAL EMPLOYEE TELL YOU DIFFERENT--I HAVE DONE MY RESEARCH ON THIS!!!!!

I am work now and dont have time to get all the info, but I will gladly pull it all together tonight and let you know where I buy from. It breaks down between 5-10 cents a bubble mailer depending how big of bulk you buy in.


TK

TK, do not these thin bubble mailers go through the same machine that letters run through??
It is my understanding that they do. Plus, it has to be of a certain thickness to put DC.

No, as long as they are hand metered by a postal employee they do not go through any machines.......and the .62 cent cost is actually for the non-machineable service.

You are 100% correct for the DC---the upcharge has to be used for the Delivery Confirmation because the bubble mailer must be at least 3/4" thick......

This is why I only send out cards that I have sold under $10 or small BV trades that I would not use a DC# on as .62---but at the volume I sell little stuff at, it is a HUGE savings for me.


TK

 

[BunchOBull]

100% FALSE---it depends on what the thickness of the bubble mailers you are using are. I send out Hundreds of bubble mailers a month at .62 cents each with a meter sticker from a postage employee and have had ZERO come back or get charged incorrect postage.

You guys need to be aware that the bubble mailers bought at wally world etc., are almost double the thickness of bubble mailers that can be bought in bulk from E-Supply outlets that design bubble mailers specifically for curtailing shipping costs.

Maybe research some other brands before you try and call me out on my statements.

TK

While this is all fine, well, and good...I can't ship with delivery confirmation on bubblemailer that is less than 3/4" in thickness. I refuse to do that.

 

[bballcardkid]

Yah, seriously. It really cracks me up when people state they can still mail their bubble mailers for .62.

The minimum price is $1.17! If you are mailing your bubble mailers for .62, you are making your customers pay .55 when they get the package from you.

Why would you even attempt to send in a PWE......and I see that it cost .84 cents....bubble mailer with one card in it should be about .62......

That doesnt make much sense.


TK

Wow I wish I lived on your planet, or in your country, or whatever...

My post office can do it at $.62. Get a small 5x7 bubble mailer, put the card in the penny sleeve, top loader, tape the edge, put it in, and send it as a small envelope. At $1.17, you are sending the card as a large package or envelope, which isn't necessarily the case with a 5x7, however if you want delivery confirmation on the package, you have to send via large package or envelope. The delivery confirmation feature is not available when sending small envelopes.

 

[Philip J. Fry]

look what i just saw on the COMC site!

 

[dodgerchromie]

look what i just saw on the COMC site!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

i think he was just excited about the LOST premier tonight.

 

[pujolsthomefan33]

100% FALSE---it depends on what the thickness of the bubble mailers you are using are. I send out Hundreds of bubble mailers a month at .62 cents each with a meter sticker from a postage employee and have had ZERO come back or get charged incorrect postage.

You guys need to be aware that the bubble mailers bought at wally world etc., are almost double the thickness of bubble mailers that can be bought in bulk from E-Supply outlets that design bubble mailers specifically for curtailing shipping costs.

Maybe research some other brands before you try and call me out on my statements.

TK

While this is all fine, well, and good...I can't ship with delivery confirmation on bubblemailer that is less than 3/4" in thickness. I refuse to do that.

You are correct, if you send with DC#, then this does not apply. I am only referring to shipments that DO NOT have or require a DC#. As with the OP or for me on small items of $10 or less...etc.


TK

 

[jcmint]

Please stop using tape. Tape is not necessary and drives buyers nuts, Team bags work well in place of tape.

Yah, seriously. It really cracks me up when people state they can still mail their bubble mailers for .62.

The minimum price is $1.17! If you are mailing your bubble mailers for .62, you are making your customers pay .55 when they get the package from you.

Why would you even attempt to send in a PWE......and I see that it cost .84 cents....bubble mailer with one card in it should be about .62......

That doesnt make much sense.


TK

Wow I wish I lived on your planet, or in your country, or whatever...

My post office can do it at $.62. Get a small 5x7 bubble mailer, put the card in the penny sleeve, top loader, tape the edge, put it in, and send it as a small envelope. At $1.17, you are sending the card as a large package or envelope, which isn't necessarily the case with a 5x7, however if you want delivery confirmation on the package, you have to send via large package or envelope. The delivery confirmation feature is not available when sending small envelopes.

 

[predatorkj]

That's what you get for using a PWE. By now, most everyone should know better.

It's my fault that the post office wrongly handled my package? I know it is a risk and a possibility that it will get damaged, but, "That's what you get for using a PWE."

Statements like that really baffle me..

Yes, my opinion is that it is your fault. I am sure you are well aware of the horror stories that occur when using PWE's. You tried to beat the odds and failed. Anyone knows what will happen more times than not when using a PWE. Why even try? It's just not worth it, even for a low end deal. Making sure the item is packaged securely and safely is the sellers responsibility. A PWE is not safe and certainly not secure.

It's great to see that you take responsibility in offering a refund. Not saying you wouldn't have, you have a good rep. That's not the issue. The issue is we ALL know what will happen with a PWE. Using one is just asking for damage and loss.

No way around it.

Okay...I'd have to butt heads with ya on this one.First off...I send checks in the mail.So things like baseball cards are inconsequential.They should be fine if I am supposed to trust a $1,000 check in the mail right?Or should I buy a bubble mailer for my bill payments too?

I also don't buy that a toploader can get any more caught in the machinery than a regular envelope with paper in it.I think Hive17 showed us a some stuff he saw at the postal sorting place and it looks like just about anything could get caught in that catastrophe of a jumbled mess of machinery.

And one other comment...I have received probably about 300+ pwe's from my buying days on naxcom.Never had one thing wrong with the card.Ever.So to say that anything sent via pwe will undoubtedly be ruined or lost is kind of absurd if your standing in my shoes.I have experience to back that up.

 

[predatorkj]

That's what you get for using a PWE. By now, most everyone should know better.

It's my fault that the post office wrongly handled my package? I know it is a risk and a possibility that it will get damaged, but, "That's what you get for using a PWE."

Statements like that really baffle me..

I respect you as a board member and we have done deals and never had issues, but what baffles me is how, after all the countless posts about PWE, and knowing that the envelope the way you sent it has to go through countless machines, would you even consdier sending a card that way....Even a 88 Topps Common-----bottom line, it is your fault because the post office has seperate charges for NON-MACHINEABLE items such as a PWE with a baseball card in a toploader.....which is even less than what it would cost to put 2 stamps on it.....

I think the correct message here is that you are sorry and it happened to you because you got lazy and didnt want to go to a post office and pay for a .58 cent stamp and have it stamped as Non-Machineable and hand canceled on the spot.....


JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.

2) If you must use a PWE for some reason, at least go and get it hand canceled and marked non-machineable for .58 cents so it doesnt go through the machines.......


TK

What your saying is like me telling you that if you get into an accident out on the freeway then its your fault because you know accidents happen on the freeway.And yes...you could even say you have seen a bunch of them.Are you going to stop using the freeway and buy a tank to drive around the backroads in?Its the post office's fault plain and simple.Its their fault for not making sure the package was handled properly.If the packages are going to get screwed up...why even offer the service?Its the postal worker's job to make sure it gets there in one piece.Man...I seriously need to get one of these really cool jobs where you can not do your actual job and still work there and get paid.Must be freaking awesome! :lol:

 

[Pete14Rose]

That's what you get for using a PWE. By now, most everyone should know better.

It's my fault that the post office wrongly handled my package? I know it is a risk and a possibility that it will get damaged, but, "That's what you get for using a PWE."

Statements like that really baffle me..

I respect you as a board member and we have done deals and never had issues, but what baffles me is how, after all the countless posts about PWE, and knowing that the envelope the way you sent it has to go through countless machines, would you even consdier sending a card that way....Even a 88 Topps Common-----bottom line, it is your fault because the post office has seperate charges for NON-MACHINEABLE items such as a PWE with a baseball card in a toploader.....which is even less than what it would cost to put 2 stamps on it.....

I think the correct message here is that you are sorry and it happened to you because you got lazy and didnt want to go to a post office and pay for a .58 cent stamp and have it stamped as Non-Machineable and hand canceled on the spot.....


JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.

2) If you must use a PWE for some reason, at least go and get it hand canceled and marked non-machineable for .58 cents so it doesnt go through the machines.......


TK

What your saying is like me telling you that if you get into an accident out on the freeway then its your fault because you know accidents happen on the freeway.And yes...you could even say you have seen a bunch of them.Are you going to stop using the freeway and buy a tank to drive around the backroads in?Its the post office's fault plain and simple.Its their fault for not making sure the package was handled properly.If the packages are going to get screwed up...why even offer the service?Its the postal worker's job to make sure it gets there in one piece.Man...I seriously need to get one of these really cool jobs where you can not do your actual job and still work there and get paid.Must be freaking awesome! :lol:

Some people just like to argue Have fun.

 

[predatorkj]

That's what you get for using a PWE. By now, most everyone should know better.

It's my fault that the post office wrongly handled my package? I know it is a risk and a possibility that it will get damaged, but, "That's what you get for using a PWE."

Statements like that really baffle me..

I respect you as a board member and we have done deals and never had issues, but what baffles me is how, after all the countless posts about PWE, and knowing that the envelope the way you sent it has to go through countless machines, would you even consdier sending a card that way....Even a 88 Topps Common-----bottom line, it is your fault because the post office has seperate charges for NON-MACHINEABLE items such as a PWE with a baseball card in a toploader.....which is even less than what it would cost to put 2 stamps on it.....

I think the correct message here is that you are sorry and it happened to you because you got lazy and didnt want to go to a post office and pay for a .58 cent stamp and have it stamped as Non-Machineable and hand canceled on the spot.....


JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS---
1) In the right bubble mailer shipping 1 card is in fact .62 cents....will gladly let everyone in on where I buy my bubble mailers from.

2) If you must use a PWE for some reason, at least go and get it hand canceled and marked non-machineable for .58 cents so it doesnt go through the machines.......


TK

What your saying is like me telling you that if you get into an accident out on the freeway then its your fault because you know accidents happen on the freeway.And yes...you could even say you have seen a bunch of them.Are you going to stop using the freeway and buy a tank to drive around the backroads in?Its the post office's fault plain and simple.Its their fault for not making sure the package was handled properly.If the packages are going to get screwed up...why even offer the service?Its the postal worker's job to make sure it gets there in one piece.Man...I seriously need to get one of these really cool jobs where you can not do your actual job and still work there and get paid.Must be freaking awesome! :lol:

Some people just like to argue Have fun.

Not really but surely you can get my point?Or is it too far fetched for ya?I like to debate.Not argue.I argue with my wife.Last time I checked...me and you...we aren't married.I don't expect that to change any time soon either!

 

[predatorkj]

Let me clarify my post a little more so everybody doesn't think I am trying to be too much of a troll.

The way I see it...the post office is charged with handling a lot of important information and money every single day.I would like to think that about 100% of everything I send will be just fine.I like to hold them to that.While I do appreciate the fact accidents happen...I also appreciate the fact that that should not affect my ability to mail something off and get it delivered.Nor should my confidence be shaken so badly that I won't do anything by mail.This is basically how I feel about it.

The way everybody goes on around here...its almost like you all have accepted the fact that the post office screws up everything and you just shouldn't use their normal method of sending things in the mail.I for one feel thats not fair to anyone who has to ever pay to ship anything.Once they pay...they should be rewarded with the service they paid for.Otherwise...why pay for it or provide it at all?

 

[dodgerchromie]

Let me clarify my post a little more so everybody doesn't think I am trying to be too much of a troll.

The way I see it...the post office is charged with handling a lot of important information and money every single day.I would like to think that about 100% of everything I send will be just fine.I like to hold them to that.While I do appreciate the fact accidents happen...I also appreciate the fact that that should not affect my ability to mail something off and get it delivered.Nor should my confidence be shaken so badly that I won't do anything by mail.This is basically how I feel about it.

The way everybody goes on around here...its almost like you all have accepted the fact that the post office screws up everything and you just shouldn't use their normal method of sending things in the mail.I for one feel thats not fair to anyone who has to ever pay to ship anything.Once they pay...they should be rewarded with the service they paid for.Otherwise...why pay for it or provide it at all?

nicely said sir, exactly my point.

 

[Guest]

Starting a thread admitting you send out in PWE envelopes and being upset that it's destroyed is a very bad idea around here.