pack/cards thread....

[Bornagaincollector]

Too me yes he is.

Well, I suppose that ends the argument.

I really can't say either are absolutely, positively, not HOFers...I just don't think either are shoe-ins.

Personally, I'd like to see a lot of the forgotten positions entered into the HOF before margin guys like Simms and Warner get in.

Simms won 2 super bowls has 33,000 + passing yards NFL, Superbowl and Probowl MVP

Yah, we're dealing with the same stats here...

I just place a lot more weight on their supporting cast.

By the way, I forgot to mention this but to the guy that said Warner #2 behind Montana -- Otto Graham. The End. Best *Winner* of all time.

Other then LT and Pepper Johnson the Giants didn't really have anyone.

Carl Banks wasn't too bad himself.