Paypal refunded my purchase from the SCAMARTIST thefivemajor

[mudflap02]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

 

[AKA Coastal]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

Anyone still have the pic? I missed it. I was on vacation.

 

[A_Pharis]

I can read just fine. I also am very patient in trying to jump into something. Once again, relax on the pot stirring.

Thanked. People are trying to stir the pot with the "aha, I was right nyeah nyeah!" attitudes. Read back - it was conceded that the guy is a scammer, but I don't think at any point was it said he wasn't.

One thing to remember is the old idiom - "Hindsight is 40/40".

It sure is easy as hell to look back and say "OMG We were getting toasted when we should have been thanked", when it'd be different had you been opening that card out of the mail today. Especially when you're toasting the fact that it's not the guy's credibility that was being defended -- it was the attitude that a few of the buyer's took when they should accept the fact that a little of the fault is theirs.

If you can't see that ... well then, that's just you, and it shouldn't change. It's just not the way everyone else functions.

 

[mudflap02]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

Anyone still have the pic? I missed it. I was on vacation.

 

[All In Cards]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

Anyone still have the pic? I missed it. I was on vacation.

Its still in his sig

 

[mudflap02]

Not sure if he put it there or if the mods did.

 

[miguelcabrera]

ha i actually could see those being paper cutouts

 

[moxacaine]

nvm i found what i need.

 

[Russ S.]

ha i actually could see those being paper cutouts

HA. Wonder where you got that idea. :benson:

 

[miguelcabrera]

ha i actually could see those being paper cutouts

HA. Wonder where you got that idea. :benson:

other people in the thread :benson:

 

[Mark McGwire Museum]

The two on the left are the same

 

[deceptikon1978]

The two on the left are the same

I'm thinking that too, just hard to tell for sure.

 

[mudflap02]

There's really no way to tell from that pic, probably his intention.

 

[Mark McGwire Museum]

There's really no way to tell from that pic, probably his intention.

I agree, he took it from that distance so you couldn't tell. I'm 99% sure those 2 on the left are the same though. It's sure doesn't make it obvious because of the distance, but there are a ton of pen strokes that are exact, and none that are different.

 

[miguelcabrera]

any word from thefivemajors himself?

 

[TomMurry]

Not sure what the intent of the5majors was in this, and I believe that this was planned, but what I CAN say is that the cards/printouts are all DIFFERENT. This doesnt mean he didnt take scans from here or ebay and crop them or whatever, but they are all different. Heres a scan:

Look at the "g" in each that I numbered...they are all unrelated.

1-straight line g not touching sock
2-curved bottom g touching sock
3-short g w/ looped bottom away from sock
4-looped bottom g close to sock
5-looped bottom g passing through the sock

Again, this just serves that these "photos" are all of different cards.
Yes, I'm bored, but hoping this might lead somewhere. I'm guessing he knows people that have these and put them in the picture or he tried to sell off more than he actually had.

I wish all of you that bought into this much success getting your money back.
Tom

 

[chowell3fan]

From the very start of this fiasco, I, like Chris mentioned earlier, saw the case from both sides.

Adam (imo) wasn't defending thefivemajors per se, but defending the notion that the word "thief" should not have been used ten minutes into the transaction. Adam has opinions as we all do, and I respect the fact that he stated them, and then was man enough to come into this thread and stand up and say "i did this from the get go".

danimal and others, i saw it from your side too. It wasn't a $5 transaction, it was a $500 transaction. That's a couple car payments for most of us (except mudflap, that's half a payment on his Hummer ) and as soon as I saw the warning sides, I would have had the SAME reaction. (minus the word thief at the outset) In the course of the days after the unravelling of the scheme, it got more and more heated, and by every rights, it SHOULD have. Real money being lost, and emotions running high. I dont blame any of the buyers in the least for being angry in posts.

That all said, I am happy that at least one person got a refund, and I hope that danimal et all will start to get theirs as well. THe thing that I have noticed at FCB, as opposed to other sites, is that the owners and mods WILL do everything in their power to get things done. I like that, we should all like that.

Danimal, (and the others non-refunded) good luck with everything, I hope it all works out. It's not the first time a scam has been done, it wont be the last, and being one of the MANY people on these types of sites that have been victim to them, it sucks, and i don't blame you for the instant anger one bit.

 

[trademhigh]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

Anyone still have the pic? I missed it. I was on vacation.

Maybe I'm looking into this too much, but it looks like they could easily be paper cutouts. The two cards on the left side look as if they are bending sort of like a cutout piece of paper would if it's partially elevated on one side. Again, I'm probably just looking into the picture too much.

 

[bmc398]

I'm still a little curious about the pic of 5 autos that thefivemajors posted to defend himself. They were definitely five different items based on the autographs that we could see. I still think its weird that none of them were in penny sleeves or toploaders. Were they just printouts as someone on the other thread said they might be, was it a photoshop, or did he actually have 5 strasburg autos in hand?

Anyone still have the pic? I missed it. I was on vacation.

Maybe I'm looking into this too much, but it looks like they could easily be paper cutouts. The two cards on the left side look as if they are bending sort of like a cutout piece of paper would if it's partially elevated on one side. Again, I'm probably just looking into the picture too much.

It looks like the top right corners of the 2 cards on the right are folding up like a piece of paper would.

I was the one (or one of the ones) who was blasted for suggesting that it could be faked. Why take the pic from that far back? People were quick to rush to the defense of 5majors vs. think through it rationally. At that point 5majors didn't really deserve the benefit of the doubt since he had already had some funny business with the pics from eBay. Just saying....people were in a hurry to jump to conclusions instead of think critically.

While I thought he was a phony...I never came out and said it. My support of Danimal was just to say hey....his concearns may be valid, the pics don't really prove jack. Doesn't excuse the personal info dig up.

 

[danimal]

Wouldn't the auto stamp shine or have some reflective look to it if those were the real deal? Anyone have an auto and camera to test it- flash v. no flash to see if it shines/reflects?