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Perhaps the WORST umping behind the plate EVER
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ballerskrip
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I thought he was good for the first 4-5 innings.....
I stopped watching. Let me know guess, you think the Yankees are getting squeezed and the Twins pitchers are not?
I stopped watching. Let me know guess, you think the Yankees are getting squeezed and the Twins pitchers are not?
Jays_Cards
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ballerskrip said:
The ump has a bad zone, but he is consistent to both teams. I dont think there is much room to complain from either side.
mredsox89
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Both teams are getting "screwed" by the ump. The left side of his strike zone is about 6-10 inches too wide. Both teams are subject to this, so at least its consistent ::facepalm::
cartersprings
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ballerskrip said:
He's had a very wide strike zone for both sides tonight.
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JEA2880
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Ever since the ump took one off his foot he's been horrendous. Personally, I think the Yankees are getting it considerably worse, and that's coming from a Mets fan (so clearly no bias!)...
mredsox89
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JEA2880 said:
meh, i think he's calling it the same both ways, but the Twins pitchers are pitching to his strikezone more than the yankee pitchers are. I think that makes sense, at least to me, lol.
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Jays_Cards said:
It doesn't matter what the strike zone is as long as the ump is consistent. That's what's happening tonight.
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andyduke86 said:
That is exactly what I said
andyduke86
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Jays_Cards said:
That is exactly what I said
[/quote:39zrmnjk]Which is why it is quoted! Totally agree.
rymflaherty
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I think it's only magnified by the fact that TBS has their pitch zone on every pitch....I know it's just a representation of the strike zone, but I think having it there for every pitch is only showing how inconsistent some of these umpires are.
mredsox89
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rymflaherty said:
Agreed. Did MLB ever go further with the system that judges the umpires? I haven't heard about it in a few years.
pujolsjunkie
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Wow, you're right, this ump is horrible. He just threw that guy out for forgetting the avacados.
mredsox89
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pujolsjunkie said:
I'm so sick of that commercial. It has definitely hit double digits already for me
nborton
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rymflaherty said:
That thing isn't really accurate. It doesn't change at all depending on the hitter's strike zone. I think it's making people mad more than anything.
schmidtfan20
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what is this consistant crap? There is a defined strike zone and it changes on every hitter. Its the post
season, pitchers know how to hit the corners of the plate, if they aren't getting the calls then that is
crap. This isn't rocket science. Do your job or move over for someone with two working eyes!
Kevin
season, pitchers know how to hit the corners of the plate, if they aren't getting the calls then that is
crap. This isn't rocket science. Do your job or move over for someone with two working eyes!
Kevin
1995BBRefractorGuy
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It never ceases to amaze me how enormous of a strike zone Josh Beckett gets every game, there was a bunch of 'foot off the plate' strikes tonight but I've seen it worse in Red Sox games throughout the year... at least the announcers were calling it out and not ignoring it.
ballerskrip
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the definition of a strike.....When was the last time you saw a strike called above the belt? IT IS PART OF THE STRIKE ZONE....
Definition
The top of the strike zone is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants. The bottom of the strike zone is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap. The right and left boundaries of the strike zone correspond to the edges of home plate. A pitch that touches the outer boundary of the zone is as much a strike as a pitch that is thrown right down the center. A pitch at which the batter does not swing and which does not pass through the strike zone is called a ball. Unofficially, the de facto enforced strike zone may be different at any different level.
Without further official guidance to supplement the Strike Zone definition in the MLB Official Rules, the following two decidedly un-official declarations may capture the two opposing extremes of allowable interpretation for a "Pitch-Not-Struck" to qualify as a strike under the rules:
(1) No such pitch shall be a strike unless an entire diameter of the ball—including stitched seams—has passed inside the area formed by all strike zone boundaries as defined in the official rules. [Favors Batter]
(2) Each such pitch shall be a strike if any portion—no matter how small, including stitched seams—or all of the ball has intersected or passed inside any strike zone boundary as defined in the official rules. [Favors Pitcher]
A batter who accumulates three strikes in a single batting appearance has struck out and is ruled out (with the exception of an uncaught third strike); a batter who accumulates four balls in a single appearance has drawn a base on balls (or walk) and is awarded advancement to first base. In very early iterations of the rules during the 19th century, it took up to 9 balls for a batter to earn a walk; however, to make up for this, the batter could request the ball to be pitched high, low, or medium.[citation needed]
Definition
The top of the strike zone is a horizontal line at the midpoint between the top of the batter's shoulders and the top of the uniform pants. The bottom of the strike zone is a line at the hollow beneath the kneecap. The right and left boundaries of the strike zone correspond to the edges of home plate. A pitch that touches the outer boundary of the zone is as much a strike as a pitch that is thrown right down the center. A pitch at which the batter does not swing and which does not pass through the strike zone is called a ball. Unofficially, the de facto enforced strike zone may be different at any different level.
Without further official guidance to supplement the Strike Zone definition in the MLB Official Rules, the following two decidedly un-official declarations may capture the two opposing extremes of allowable interpretation for a "Pitch-Not-Struck" to qualify as a strike under the rules:
(1) No such pitch shall be a strike unless an entire diameter of the ball—including stitched seams—has passed inside the area formed by all strike zone boundaries as defined in the official rules. [Favors Batter]
(2) Each such pitch shall be a strike if any portion—no matter how small, including stitched seams—or all of the ball has intersected or passed inside any strike zone boundary as defined in the official rules. [Favors Pitcher]
A batter who accumulates three strikes in a single batting appearance has struck out and is ruled out (with the exception of an uncaught third strike); a batter who accumulates four balls in a single appearance has drawn a base on balls (or walk) and is awarded advancement to first base. In very early iterations of the rules during the 19th century, it took up to 9 balls for a batter to earn a walk; however, to make up for this, the batter could request the ball to be pitched high, low, or medium.[citation needed]
nborton
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ballerskrip said:
That should place the top of the strike zone right about at the bottom of the sternum. They word it in such an odd way. Why not just say the middle of the torso? It makes so much more sense than saying the the midpoint between the top of the shoulders and the top of the pants. More than anything, I think the left to right strike zone is what's inconsistent.
However, I totally ignore that stupid TBS strike zone thing. It doesn't change for the hitter's strike zone at all. The thing just isn't accurate. I really think if it wasn't there we may not even have a thread on this.
