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mwheeler27

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razorent said:
kentuckyderby said:
razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

I'm calling BS on this one. Did you pull that Heyward Superfractor auction too just to shut everyone up? :? You realize comments like this will only bring on more complainers so you do more stuff just to shut them up.

Brian, I commend you for trying new stuff all the time. I have collected some of your past products like few other have. The fact is that I would still be collecting your products if there didn't seem to always be some sort of controversy with your products. I can't believe things just keep happening.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to detail before announcing releases. It's just a friendly suggestion, I promise. It almost seems as if you can't let the cat out of the bag quick enough, and then you get caught doing something you shouldn't. I understand mistakes happen, but they seem to keep happening with you and your products.

I'm hoping you take this post as constructive criticism because I promise that's 100% my intention. Dot your "I"s, cross your "T"s, eliminate mistakes, and take criticism better, and you will probably enjoy more collectors wanting your products. I love some of your ideas. I just need to feel comfortable about your products and company before I start buying again.

Good luck to you and your future endeavors,

Matt
 

nbailey

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Apr 2, 2010
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200lbhockeyplayer said:
nbailey said:
Will there be any Jordan Lyles autographs in this product? Maybe one of those fancy prismatic jobs?
I've got a "fancy prismatic job" in my collection...I dig it.

That's awesome. I am pretty sure that Razor has a few more of these that went unsold, but I missed the listing and have been waiting for them to list more Lyles stuff for awhile.

Do you have your Lyles stuff scanned? I'd love to see all you 've got.
Here's the start to mine (only the rarer stuff): http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i84/N ... ?start=all
 

JustinG08

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Aug 9, 2008
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Clearwater, FL
mwheeler27 said:
razorent said:
kentuckyderby said:
razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

I'm calling BS on this one. Did you pull that Heyward Superfractor auction too just to shut everyone up? :? You realize comments like this will only bring on more complainers so you do more stuff just to shut them up.

Brian, I commend you for trying new stuff all the time. I have collected some of your past products like few other have. The fact is that I would still be collecting your products if there didn't seem to always be some sort of controversy with your products. I can't believe things just keep happening.

Perhaps you should pay more attention to detail before announcing releases. It's just a friendly suggestion, I promise. It almost seems as if you can't let the cat out of the bag quick enough, and then you get caught doing something you shouldn't. I understand mistakes happen, but they seem to keep happening with you and your products.

I'm hoping you take this post as constructive criticism because I promise that's 100% my intention. Dot your "I"s, cross your "T"s, eliminate mistakes, and take criticism better, and you will probably enjoy more collectors wanting your products. I love some of your ideas. I just need to feel comfortable about your products and company before I start buying again.

Good luck to you and your future endeavors,

Matt

Well said, things like this make it easier to spend my money else where.
 

Leaf

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Aug 7, 2008
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Appreciate the reply Matt,

We believe we are on solid legal ground... We added the autos to avoid any potential nuisance by individuals with nefarious motives to cause a disruption (feel free to PM for details as we are looking into this now).

On heyward , I had that card on eBay long before the product was planned... We just forgot to end the auction....simple oversight ..

I am not sure why everything is a conspiracy , but I can tell you most "issues" are manufactured.

Regardless, we listen to collectors.
They expressed concern over legal an we figured we could easily avoid the argument by adding content.

Bg
 

HoustonTeams4Me

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Sep 9, 2008
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By adding your "exclusive" auto's to this product, is this a hint/statement from you that you'll be selling the exclusive contract's to Topps in the near future (kinda like you're unloading this stuff while it still has "exclusive" value)?
 

Leaf

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Aug 7, 2008
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HoustonTeams4Me said:
By adding your "exclusive" auto's to this product, is this a hint/statement from you that you'll be selling the exclusive contract's to Topps in the near future (kinda like you're unloading this stuff while it still has "exclusive" value)?

Nope only adding 5-6 players in the retro release (5 diff cards of each player)... No hidden meanings here.... Sorry guys.... Bg
 

Bob Loblaw

Active member
Aug 21, 2008
11,214
5
Bright House Field
razorent said:
kentuckyderby said:
razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.
 

ljw29

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Feb 3, 2010
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HoustonTeams4Me said:
By adding your "exclusive" auto's to this product, is this a hint/statement from you that you'll be selling the exclusive contract's to Topps in the near future (kinda like you're unloading this stuff while it still has "exclusive" value)?

No one would admit that
 

Leaf

New member
Aug 7, 2008
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Jeff N. said:
razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order against us as a recognized manufacturer.

Bg

P.s.- Jeff, thank you so much for all your help, my friend .
 

mike1870

New member
Nov 3, 2008
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razorent said:
HoustonTeams4Me said:
By adding your "exclusive" auto's to this product, is this a hint/statement from you that you'll be selling the exclusive contract's to Topps in the near future (kinda like you're unloading this stuff while it still has "exclusive" value)?

Nope only adding 5-6 players in the retro release (5 diff cards of each player)... No hidden meanings here.... Sorry guys.... Bg

Does this mean that the other players will be added to a different baseball product further down the road? Sorry, I just really liked your Razor Metal autos so if there is a similar product coming up I would be very interested
 

Leaf

New member
Aug 7, 2008
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mike1870 said:
razorent wrote:HoustonTeams4Me wrote:By adding your "exclusive" auto's to this product, is this a hint/statement from you that you'll be selling the exclusive contract's to Topps in the near future (kinda like you're unloading this stuff while it still has "exclusive" value)?

Nope only adding 5-6 players in the retro release (5 diff cards of each player)... No hidden meanings here.... Sorry guys.... Bg

Does this mean that the other players will be added to a different baseball product further down the road? Sorry, I just really liked your Razor Metal autos so if there is a similar product coming up I would be very interested

No plans I can discuss now.
Bg
 

Bob Loblaw

Active member
Aug 21, 2008
11,214
5
Bright House Field
razorent said:
Jeff N. said:
razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order in our case against us.

Thank you so much Jeff !!! Thank you so much!!!!!


Your friend,
Bg

P.s.- Jeff, sorry I didn't take you up on the email offer you made.

You really thought certain people would attempt to cause problems? Dude, it's all about talking about it. To go to eBay and actually report each auction would 1) take more time than certain people have, and 2) be a really lousy way to interfere with someone's business.
 

Leaf

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Aug 7, 2008
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Jeff N. said:
razorent wrote:Jeff N. wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order in our case against us.

Thank you so much Jeff !!! Thank you so much!!!!!


Your friend,
Bg

P.s.- Jeff, sorry I didn't take you up on the email offer you made.

You really thought certain people would attempt to cause problems? Dude, it's all about talking about it. To go to eBay and actually report each auction would 1) take more time than certain people have, and 2) be a really lousy way to interfere with someone's business.

Your right. I am so sorry I doubted you. Can we be friends?

Bg
 

Leaf

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On plane, no ability to reply till tomorrow... Feel free to any questions... Bg
 

Bob Loblaw

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Aug 21, 2008
11,214
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Bright House Field
razorent said:
Jeff N. said:
razorent wrote:Jeff N. wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order in our case against us.

Thank you so much Jeff !!! Thank you so much!!!!!


Your friend,
Bg

P.s.- Jeff, sorry I didn't take you up on the email offer you made.

You really thought certain people would attempt to cause problems? Dude, it's all about talking about it. To go to eBay and actually report each auction would 1) take more time than certain people have, and 2) be a really lousy way to interfere with someone's business.

Your right. I am so sorry I doubted you. Can we be friends?

Bg

Best friends.
 

kentuckyderby

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razorent said:
Jeff N. said:
razorent wrote:Jeff N. wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order in our case against us.

Thank you so much Jeff !!! Thank you so much!!!!!


Your friend,
Bg

P.s.- Jeff, sorry I didn't take you up on the email offer you made.

You really thought certain people would attempt to cause problems? Dude, it's all about talking about it. To go to eBay and actually report each auction would 1) take more time than certain people have, and 2) be a really lousy way to interfere with someone's business.

Your right. I am so sorry I doubted you. Can we be friends?

Bg


It's cool that BG is here and all but...
I wonder if other CEOs from other companies have such conversations
 

Casebusters

Active member
Aug 14, 2008
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Jeff N. said:
razorent said:
[quote="Jeff N.":1ctsdgd9]razorent wrote:Jeff N. wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:razorent wrote:kentuckyderby wrote:beefycheddar wrote:razorent wrote:Greetings guys.... Just wanted to update you all on several things....

1> 2010 RAZOR ROOKIE RETRO
This product is being met with tremendous excitement and considerable interest. We are rapidly approaching sold out status. In addition to the graded card per box, each and every box will contain a 2010 Razor signed card never before released of one of our exclusive players!!!



So the grab bag talk can stop? Probably not....


BG-- Congrats on the news with Ali
Beefy - the grab bag talk was justified until the recent addition, no?

No... It's wasn't... Honestly I thought it was a good idea to use some cards this way... These have been made for a while and we were looking for a use. We did legal research and feel confident in all we do. Not hearing that crap anymore is a bonus.
Bg


So the threads about the grab bag had no influence in you making the new addition?
The idea was there all along?
That's strange that the case that already sold on ebay didn't mention it
Also strange that the previous posts where item was promoted didn't mention it
I know it's not life or death but calling the point "crap" isn't right
You obviously saw some validity to the point since you made adjustments
I'm not ripping on the product or the adjustment to the product
I'm just saying that you made an adjustment thanks to some posts here but won't give credit to those (Jeff N) that deserve it

on a side note, reading about the WSOP pulls makes me want to head to the casino

I just wanted him to shut up.
That's why I added it.
Bg

To everyone who opens this product and enjoys the added autographs in your product, you apparently have me to thank.

...so out of the goodness of your heart and to get me to shut up, DESPITE the fact that my points might have had some merit, and that, in my opinion, eBay wouldn't let you sell your product according to their rules....you did all of this to get me to shut up.

Heh.

Lol... We did it so certain people could not "attempt" to cause problems.

We spoke with eBay on this Friday....
There would have to be a legal order in our case against us.

Thank you so much Jeff !!! Thank you so much!!!!!


Your friend,
Bg

P.s.- Jeff, sorry I didn't take you up on the email offer you made.

You really thought certain people would attempt to cause problems? Dude, it's all about talking about it. To go to eBay and actually report each auction would 1) take more time than certain people have, and 2) be a really lousy way to interfere with someone's business.

Your right. I am so sorry I doubted you. Can we be friends?

Bg

Best friends.[/quote:1ctsdgd9]
 

sneekc

Active member
Feb 1, 2009
1,105
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razorent said:
Appreciate the reply Matt,

We believe we are on solid legal ground... We added the autos to avoid any potential nuisance by individuals with nefarious motives to cause a disruption (feel free to PM for details as we are looking into this now).

On heyward , I had that card on eBay long before the product was planned... We just forgot to end the auction....simple oversight ..

I am not sure why everything is a conspiracy , but I can tell you most "issues" are manufactured.

Regardless, we listen to collectors.
They expressed concern over legal an we figured we could easily avoid the argument by adding content.

Bg
You haven't listened to my request regarding changing my mind about razor products. ;)
 

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