Razor Rookie Retro Tracker

[cubfan131]

This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

I agree, if you are looking for slabs of rookies, right now is not a bad time to buy!

Agreed!

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Some of it also could be people not knowing what the normal selling price is. I have 1 box incoming and if I pull anything other then baseball I have no idea how much it should sell for. Not knowing a selling price I would probably just list it as an auction on eBay.

 

[masonphillip]

This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

Well and here's the other thing, I think the buying prices vs. selling prices on these cards for another reason.

When Brian was buying these, ebay was not loaded with slabs at auction. Thus, to accumulate the quantity and quality of these cards in a relatively short time he probably had to pay higher prices than he would have buying these all at auctions starting at $.99.

Thus, when Brian said that average case should recoup x% of the money, if he paid 10-15% over what might have been standard auction prices at the time, you have to take that in account.

That is all purely speculation on my part...but who knows.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

Well and here's the other thing, I think the buying prices vs. selling prices on these cards for another reason.

When Brian was buying these, ebay was not loaded with slabs at auction. Thus, to accumulate the quantity and quality of these cards in a relatively short time he probably had to pay higher prices than he would have buying these all at auctions starting at $.99.

Thus, when Brian said that average case should recoup x% of the money, if he paid 10-15% over what might have been standard auction prices at the time, you have to take that in account.

That is all purely speculation on my part...but who knows.

Definitely a good point Phil. BG did a ton of buying off ebay, and with many of those cards not having an ebay market gauge, BG's price paid was probably higher than most of these will sell on ebay right now. So taking our previous understood numbers of an average return of 60%, it's probably more like a 45-50% return right now. Not to mention the major hits that some of the big cards will take, especially the Strasburg, that will diminish the overall return even more.

 

[masonphillip]

This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

Well and here's the other thing, I think the buying prices vs. selling prices on these cards for another reason.

When Brian was buying these, ebay was not loaded with slabs at auction. Thus, to accumulate the quantity and quality of these cards in a relatively short time he probably had to pay higher prices than he would have buying these all at auctions starting at $.99.

Thus, when Brian said that average case should recoup x% of the money, if he paid 10-15% over what might have been standard auction prices at the time, you have to take that in account.

That is all purely speculation on my part...but who knows.

Definitely a good point Phil. BG did a ton of buying off ebay, and with many of those cards not having an ebay market gauge, BG's price paid was probably higher than most of these will sell on ebay right now. So taking our previous understood numbers of an average return of 60%, it's probably more like a 45-50% return right now. Not to mention the major hits that some of the big cards will take, especially the Strasburg, that will diminish the overall return even more.

Plus you add in the fact that he was buying through the summer, which is arguably the priciest time to buy baseball cards (the majority of the product) and now the selling is happening in the fall (which is probably a low-point for baseball cards, usually is anyway). This causes a little more pain.

Additionally, although the number of slabs might not have materially changed in total due to this release, different niches have seen huge changes. For instance, the number of 2001 UD Tiger Woods BGS 10s on the market right now is 9, at auction, on eBay, I would venture to guess that's much higher than average and thus prices are lower.

The big winners from this product are #1 - the guys who hit the huge cards and #2 - slab sellers on ebay and elsewhere who were able to move products at good prices to help Brian build up his inventory for this product.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

Well and here's the other thing, I think the buying prices vs. selling prices on these cards for another reason.

When Brian was buying these, ebay was not loaded with slabs at auction. Thus, to accumulate the quantity and quality of these cards in a relatively short time he probably had to pay higher prices than he would have buying these all at auctions starting at $.99.

Thus, when Brian said that average case should recoup x% of the money, if he paid 10-15% over what might have been standard auction prices at the time, you have to take that in account.

That is all purely speculation on my part...but who knows.

Definitely a good point Phil. BG did a ton of buying off ebay, and with many of those cards not having an ebay market gauge, BG's price paid was probably higher than most of these will sell on ebay right now. So taking our previous understood numbers of an average return of 60%, it's probably more like a 45-50% return right now. Not to mention the major hits that some of the big cards will take, especially the Strasburg, that will diminish the overall return even more.

Plus you add in the fact that he was buying through the summer, which is arguably the priciest time to buy baseball cards (the majority of the product) and now the selling is happening in the fall (which is probably a low-point for baseball cards, usually is anyway). This causes a little more pain.

Additionally, although the number of slabs might not have materially changed in total due to this release, different niches have seen huge changes. For instance, the number of 2001 UD Tiger Woods BGS 10s on the market right now is 9, at auction, on eBay, I would venture to guess that's much higher than average and thus prices are lower.

The big winners from this product are #1 - the guys who hit the huge cards and #2 - slab sellers on ebay and elsewhere who were able to move products at good prices to help Brian build up his inventory for this product.

Don't forget #3 - BG himself. He made out pretty well on this too. Not that he shouldn't, but he definitely fits in the winner category on this product along with the lottery winners, and people that sold to him initially.

 

[masonphillip]

[quote="Leaf":wl5vmpee]This is very interesting to me.

I have marked the below list with what it takes to buy some of thes ecards if you do not commit EBAY suicide by listing as .99 auctions.

Repurchased Rookies - Completed Sales
Ebay Item #360296277626 - '01 Pujols UD BGS 9.5 - $94 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282624 - '82 Lawrence Taylor Topps RC BGS 9.5 - $88 ($125)
Ebay Item #360296282871 - '61 Don Maynard Topps RC PSA 9 - $95 ($200-250)
Ebay Item #360296283374 - '82 - 83 OPC Dale Hawerchuk BGS 9.5 - $39 ($75-100)
Ebay Item #110581425939 - '86 Bonds TT Tiffany BGS 9.5 - $165 ($225+)

I dont discount the effect of so many cards all hitting the Bay at once, however, I do question the wisdom of sellers who use .99 and let it rip in the most challenging economic period of our lifetimes. Look at Terapeak and it is proven on commodity items, fixed price is the only way.

Good news for some.... Its time to steal slabs off ebay while the sellers are not protecting them.
BG

Brian, I agree with you, but I really think it comes down to some of the folks busting these just do not have the time it takes to leave the money tied up in BIN/BO's. Which leads to the fact that some are busting this with money they really can not afford to loose. Thus, you are seeing a lot of .99 listings to simply recoup as much as they can, as quickly as they can. And this may be a good indication as to why so many RRR break posts are made in anger.

Well and here's the other thing, I think the buying prices vs. selling prices on these cards for another reason.

When Brian was buying these, ebay was not loaded with slabs at auction. Thus, to accumulate the quantity and quality of these cards in a relatively short time he probably had to pay higher prices than he would have buying these all at auctions starting at $.99.

Thus, when Brian said that average case should recoup x% of the money, if he paid 10-15% over what might have been standard auction prices at the time, you have to take that in account.

That is all purely speculation on my part...but who knows.

Definitely a good point Phil. BG did a ton of buying off ebay, and with many of those cards not having an ebay market gauge, BG's price paid was probably higher than most of these will sell on ebay right now. So taking our previous understood numbers of an average return of 60%, it's probably more like a 45-50% return right now. Not to mention the major hits that some of the big cards will take, especially the Strasburg, that will diminish the overall return even more.

Plus you add in the fact that he was buying through the summer, which is arguably the priciest time to buy baseball cards (the majority of the product) and now the selling is happening in the fall (which is probably a low-point for baseball cards, usually is anyway). This causes a little more pain.

Additionally, although the number of slabs might not have materially changed in total due to this release, different niches have seen huge changes. For instance, the number of 2001 UD Tiger Woods BGS 10s on the market right now is 9, at auction, on eBay, I would venture to guess that's much higher than average and thus prices are lower.

The big winners from this product are #1 - the guys who hit the huge cards and #2 - slab sellers on ebay and elsewhere who were able to move products at good prices to help Brian build up his inventory for this product.

Don't forget #3 - BG himself. He made out pretty well on this too. Not that he shouldn't, but he definitely fits in the winner category on this product along with the lottery winners, and people that sold to him initially.[/quote:wl5vmpee]

No doubt and I have no issue with him making dough on the product either. If people want to buy it and he can sell it, more power to him.

 

[PeteD]

Ideal situation would be:

1) to sit on a pile of this product

2) the Ca$hburg super not being pulled

3) for him to recover and come back strong

 

[JzWand]

I think a lot of sellers are leaving money on the table by starting auctions for out of season sports. I know everyone wants an immediate ROI, but sometimes you just have to wait a bit.

Why anyone would sell a Football, basketball, or hockey card RIGHT NOW is beyond me.
Unless you REALLY need the money in which case RRR probably wouldnt be a wise purchase to begin with.

A Crosby or Tavares right now isnt worth what it will be in a few months. Same with Lebron, Durant or Peyton Manning.

 

[BowmanChromeAddict]

I think a lot of sellers are leaving money on the table by starting auctions for out of season sports. I know everyone wants an immediate ROI, but sometimes you just have to wait a bit.

Why anyone would sell a Football, basketball, or hockey card RIGHT NOW is beyond me.
Unless you REALLY need the money in which case RRR probably wouldnt be a wise purchase to begin with.

A Crosby or Tavares right now isnt worth what it will be in a few months. Same with Lebron, Durant or Peyton Manning.

That's the problem, many people didn't buy this product with available cash, they bought needing to pay back a CC bill. Those selling now need to pay off a bill or they just don't know anything about the other sports, which come to think of it, might be the bigger issue. When you mix sports and your "expertise" is only in one, you don't know what you have and you just list away and figure that the market will dictate.

 

[masonphillip]

I think a lot of sellers are leaving money on the table by starting auctions for out of season sports. I know everyone wants an immediate ROI, but sometimes you just have to wait a bit.

Why anyone would sell a Football, basketball, or hockey card RIGHT NOW is beyond me.
Unless you REALLY need the money in which case RRR probably wouldnt be a wise purchase to begin with.

A Crosby or Tavares right now isnt worth what it will be in a few months. Same with Lebron, Durant or Peyton Manning.

That's the problem, many people didn't buy this product with available cash, they bought needing to pay back a CC bill. Those selling now need to pay off a bill or they just don't know anything about the other sports, which come to think of it, might be the bigger issue. When you mix sports and your "expertise" is only in one, you don't know what you have and you just list away and figure that the market will dictate.

and with any product, the glut of the listings come right away, this product isn't unusual in that fashion. There are folks that sit on what they pull but for most folks they can't bust a case worth of something this expensive and afford to just sit on it and hope for bigger $$ later.

 

[Messier2]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

 

[masonphillip]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:121393q7]230517273147[/phil:121393q7] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

 

[Messier2]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:auojos9x]230517273147[/phil:auojos9x] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

 

[masonphillip]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:kvc8m4z9]230517273147[/phil:kvc8m4z9] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

The media coverage has been there for Lebron the whole way along...his cards have already achieved unheard of prices. I do agree that him/Dwade/Boshs cards could be looked at differently than others.

However, I think the myth I was trying to dispel in general is that once b-ball season comes around lots of these cards will see nice spikes in price. Not necessarily true at all.

 

[Messier2]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:bf1re5ql]230517273147[/phil:bf1re5ql] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

The media coverage has been there for Lebron the whole way along...his cards have already achieved unheard of prices. I do agree that him/Dwade/Boshs cards could be looked at differently than others.

However, I think the myth I was trying to dispel in general is that once b-ball season comes around lots of these cards will see nice spikes in price. Not necessarily true at all.

Oh, that I agree 100%.

Not all cards...just sleeper ones that people are looking over now in favor of football and baseball cards. Those have the potential to grow.

 

[masonphillip]

That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:1nkoprza]230517273147[/phil:1nkoprza] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

The media coverage has been there for Lebron the whole way along...his cards have already achieved unheard of prices. I do agree that him/Dwade/Boshs cards could be looked at differently than others.

However, I think the myth I was trying to dispel in general is that once b-ball season comes around lots of these cards will see nice spikes in price. Not necessarily true at all.

Oh, that I agree 100%.

Not all cards...just sleeper ones that people are looking over now in favor of football and baseball cards. Those have the potential to grow.

they do yes...but in those cases, you'd be way better off to just buy them from eBay as singles rather than break these packs.

Back to the Retro thoughts for a minute - i haven't seen a prismatic of Smoak, Posey, Alvarez, Wieters or Hicks show up on ebay yet.

 

[Messier2]

[quote="Messier2":1i97b5i5]That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:1i97b5i5]230517273147[/phil:1i97b5i5] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

The media coverage has been there for Lebron the whole way along...his cards have already achieved unheard of prices. I do agree that him/Dwade/Boshs cards could be looked at differently than others.

However, I think the myth I was trying to dispel in general is that once b-ball season comes around lots of these cards will see nice spikes in price. Not necessarily true at all.

Oh, that I agree 100%.

Not all cards...just sleeper ones that people are looking over now in favor of football and baseball cards. Those have the potential to grow.

they do yes...but in those cases, you'd be way better off to just buy them from eBay as singles rather than break these packs.

Back to the Retro thoughts for a minute - i haven't seen a prismatic of Smoak, Posey, Alvarez, Wieters or Hicks show up on ebay yet.[/quote:1i97b5i5]

Right...my statement is more of a "general" statement...not really to do with RRR or this thread!

Yes, back to RRR talk!

 

[masonphillip]

[quote="masonphillip":28m7jj9k][quote="Messier2":28m7jj9k]That's my thinking...why sell my Lebron BGS 9 now when no one is talking about basketball when I can get double what they are selling for now (or more) once the season starts and the hype train begins...

If you are buying this product to possibly pay off your debts...you're in the wrong business. Buy this product because it's a hobby to you and you like to pull nice slabbed cards...at least that's what my mindset is on this.

For what it is worth the BGS 9's - [phil:28m7jj9k]230517273147[/phil:28m7jj9k] weren't selling for much more than what they are selling for now last season. So speculation that a card like this, or other basketball cards will double once the season comes around is just silly.

Last year and this year are TOTALLY different as far as Lebron, D-Wade, Bosh cards are concerned. The spotlight is on them more than any other year...they're going to get major media coverage throughout the season...I have hope!

The media coverage has been there for Lebron the whole way along...his cards have already achieved unheard of prices. I do agree that him/Dwade/Boshs cards could be looked at differently than others.

However, I think the myth I was trying to dispel in general is that once b-ball season comes around lots of these cards will see nice spikes in price. Not necessarily true at all.

Oh, that I agree 100%.

Not all cards...just sleeper ones that people are looking over now in favor of football and baseball cards. Those have the potential to grow.

they do yes...but in those cases, you'd be way better off to just buy them from eBay as singles rather than break these packs.

Back to the Retro thoughts for a minute - i haven't seen a prismatic of Smoak, Posey, Alvarez, Wieters or Hicks show up on ebay yet.[/quote:28m7jj9k]

Right...my statement is more of a "general" statement...not really to do with RRR or this thread!

Yes, back to RRR talk![/quote:28m7jj9k]


Seems like the base autos are pretty much a couple bucks each for the best guys and on average about $1 ea.

[phil:28m7jj9k]400151441416[/phil:28m7jj9k]

 

[masonphillip]

Added some more cards, I have yet to see a huge hit on ebay, at least that I can identify as a Razor Rookie Retro card that is.

 

[Leaf]

Added some more cards, I have yet to see a huge hit on ebay, at least that I can identify as a Razor Rookie Retro card that is.

http://cgi.ebay.com/05-06-Cup-SIDNEY-CR ... 5adbe2f98a

Pulled in IL last week and mentioned on blowout boards.
Auction states pulled from Retro and serial # matches....
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On a side note, I was told today the 1952 Mantle auto was indeed pulled from Legends of the Diamond and is currently on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/MICKEY-MANTLE-AUTO- ... 5889942793