Roy Oswalt Vs. Alex Rodriguez/PED users

[sportscardtheory]

Roy Oswalt bashes A-Rod and PED users and calls for their stats to be removed from the record books.

Roy Oswalt - "It could have cost me money in my contract. He cheated me out of the game and I take it personally, because I've never done [PEDs], haven't done it, and they're cheating me out of the game."

 

[thenumberonemetfan]

No

 

[trademhigh]

I think Oswalt to get off his high horse. Also, how many times has Oswalt faced the Yankees while A-Rod was on the yankees? And out of those games, how many of them did A-rod personally cheat Oswalt out of.

 

[blazers091]

yes

 

[markakis8]

cmon, it's not just about Arod - use your head. Arod just happened to be the story this time. I think Oswalt was talking about all cheaters in general.

I think Oswalt to get off his high horse. Also, how many times has Oswalt faced the Yankees while A-Rod was on the yankees? And out of those games, how many of them did A-rod personally cheat Oswalt out of.

 

[rico08]

Great.

Roy Oswalt is the new Curt Schilling.

 

[predatorkj]

No but he brings up a good point.Good for him.Its about time some of the players topped being so supportive and scolded these guys for the wrong they have done.I am a little tired of the passive attitude that seems to prevail when people are in the spotlight and feel the need to be PC on every single issue.

 

[sportscardtheory]

Great.

Roy Oswalt is the new Curt Schilling.

Yeah, it sucks when players have integrity.

 

[scotty21690]

I think Oswalt to get off his high horse. Also, how many times has Oswalt faced the Yankees while A-Rod was on the yankees? And out of those games, how many of them did A-rod personally cheat Oswalt out of.

7 AB
3 hits
2 2B
1 HR
3 RBI
2 BB
0 K

.429 .556 1.143 1.699

 

[KOBEARODLT]

like i said here is a better poll....who is sick of the alex rodriguez/steroids polls?

 

[predatorkj]

Great.

Roy Oswalt is the new Curt Schilling.

:lol: Not even close.I think Oswalt and Schilling are about as different as different as a steak from Saltgrass steakhouse and a couple of tacos from taco bell for 99 cents.One has class and is real down to earth while the other is a lunatic who just says things to say them for the sake of being said.

 

[predatorkj]

like i said here is a better poll....who is sick of the alex rodriguez/steroids polls?

Hey how about this one:

Who is sick and tired of people who hop on to a computer and visit a message board of their own free will that is made up of baseball card collectors while all this is going on and expects people not to talk about it?

Seriously I am not trying to be an ass to you personally but this is a big thing and I don't see any harm in discussing it until your blue in the face.It certainly doesn't hurt anything to do so.Besides...this stuff will eventually blow over when baseball season starts up.

 

[elemin8]

Good Point by Oswalt about the contract and money never thought about it that way before. Stats abolished you can't do because what about all the stat padding that Oswalt or any other player might have received if he struck out said player (i.e. AROD). You going to get rid of those stats? What should be done is a hefty fine on AROD salary.

 

[Therion]

I think Oswalt makes a very valid point but I wonder how he works with Clemens.

I don't think it puts him on a high horse for him to say that cheaters cheat honest players. By definition, that is what they do.

 

[sportscardtheory]

like i said here is a better poll....who is sick of the alex rodriguez/steroids polls?

Hey how about this one:

Who is sick and tired of people who hop on to a computer and visit a message board of their own free will that is made up of baseball card collectors while all this is going on and expects people not to talk about it?

Seriously I am not trying to be an ass to you personally but this is a big thing and I don't see any harm in discussing it until your blue in the face.It certainly doesn't hurt anything to do so.Besides...this stuff will eventually blow over when baseball season starts up.

Thank you. I guess it's better than my original intuition to say "I can name a poll that you WON'T get sick of." That's how I get myself in trouble sometimes...

 

[RL24]

I think Oswalt makes a very valid point but I wonder how he works with Clemens.

I don't think it puts him on a high horse for him to say that cheaters cheat honest players. By definition, that is what they do.

What's your sig all about??? (crotch grab.)



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It would be awesome if PED users stats were erased, Rickey could have the All Time Walks Record that he totally earned and deserves back.

 

[trademhigh]

I think Oswalt makes a very valid point but I wonder how he works with Clemens.

I don't think it puts him on a high horse for him to say that cheaters cheat honest players. By definition, that is what they do.

I wrote that because I felt he came across as better than everyone else because he said he personally was cheated out of games. He did not say I feel like roid users cheat everyone out of the game. Also, he's already rich enough, I'm sure, so the money factor shouldn't be a complaint (for the record, PED users haven't made him lose a single cent).

 

[predatorkj]

It would never happen because how the hell are we supposed to pinpoint every single at bat that was steroid aided.Its not even logical.But I do agree cheaters need to be punished harshly enough to dissuade them from cheating.

 

[predatorkj]

I think Oswalt makes a very valid point but I wonder how he works with Clemens.

I don't think it puts him on a high horse for him to say that cheaters cheat honest players. By definition, that is what they do.

I wrote that because I felt he came across as better than everyone else because he said he personally was cheated out of games. He did not say I feel like roid users cheat everyone out of the game. Also, he's already rich enough, I'm sure, so the money factor shouldn't be a complaint (for the record, PED users haven't made him lose a single cent).

I think your taking his words as an exact meaning of his feelings.I am sure that what he thinks is that they cheated everybody.Not just him.He is just using this as an example to pad up his point on why the numbers should be abolished.And yes...performance or lac thereof does affect your pay.

 

[sportscardtheory]

I think Oswalt makes a very valid point but I wonder how he works with Clemens.

I don't think it puts him on a high horse for him to say that cheaters cheat honest players. By definition, that is what they do.

I wrote that because I felt he came across as better than everyone else because he said he personally was cheated out of games. He did not say I feel like roid users cheat everyone out of the game. Also, he's already rich enough, I'm sure, so the money factor shouldn't be a complaint (for the record, PED users haven't made him lose a single cent).

What if a PED user caused him to lose 1 game in 2002, a season where he won 19 games? 20 win seasons early in a career tend to get players bigger contracts and could have released money from an incentives based contract.